Who hits the hardest? Sean Taylor or Roy Williams

[BrAinPaiNt]

No link, since it was said on television (by Haslett on the Saints' coaches show, then quoted by Chris Collinsworth during the game). According to several posters on the old version of this board (before this one was created), Parcells also was asked about Haslett's quote during a press conference and replied that Newman wasn't big enough yet (which might be why Newman has since "retired the trophy" in the weight room).

Didn't Shanny of Denver say something positive about Newman?

I can't remember exactly what it was but it was a compliment of some sort.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I can't remember exactly what it was but it was a compliment of some sort.

very specific Brain, GOSH!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

very specific Brain, GOSH!

I blame it on age, lack of sleep and Monday. :

 

[AdamJT13]

Didn't Shanny of Denver say something positive about Newman?

I can't remember exactly what it was but it was a compliment of some sort.

Are you talking about what Denver's GM said when the Broncos traded Clinton Portis for Champ Bailey?

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=2071

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"We analyzed and broke down some of the other teams that had made big jumps. One of the teams that jumped out at us was the Dallas Cowboys," Sundquist said. "They had played really tough, press man coverage on the outside, and it allowed them to mix some things up on the inside, and use the talent that they had very effectively.

"In the end, Dallas was first in defense. It was the play on Mario Edwards on one side and Terence Newman on the other. So we're looking at that, thinking, 'If we can get that shut-down guy, and then upgrade our nickel spot with Kelly (Herndon) going in there," Sundquist continued. "So we came out of those meetings saying, 'If we can get that one guy on defense, it will improve our overall defense tremendously.'"

The Cowboys invested heavily in defensive backs in the last two drafts, taking safety Roy Williams in 2002 and Newman in 2003. Williams is already a Pro Bowler; Newman appears well on his way to joining his former Big 12 rival.
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[Bob Sacamano]

guys, I finally figured out who Adam really is

he's a Stats INC-certified computer

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

guys, I finally figured out who Adam really is

he's a Stats INC-certified computer

Adam does not know this, but he is my love child from an affair I had with Barbara Eden of I dream of Jeanie that happened years ago.

I feel bad.:

 

[superpunk]

So Adam has no belly button?

Sad....

 

[TobiasEagle77]

Roy Williams

Most of the hype around Sean Taylor is because of his physical abilities or what people "expect" him to become, rather than what he's actually done on the field IMO. As overhyped as Roy Williams might be : he hits harder than Sean Taylor.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Admittedly, I didn't watch many Falcon games...

And admittedly, I wasn't paying that close attention to the Atlanta/Philly game (beer kind of took over)...but from what I remember, Hall was on Owens for most of that game.

Owens played the right side of WR. Sure, he'd move around quite a bit...usually to the slot when he moved....but the right side was his side most of the time. That's where Hall is naturally lined up. And if you look at Owens' numbers from that game, Hall didn't have a very good day. I remember watching Owens make catch after catch against Hall and Madden would praise Hall's ability every time a pass went incomplete and acted like Hall was shutting Owens down. I couldn't believe what I was hearing because I was seeing something completely different.


Rich..........

 

[DIAF]

That's completely wrong. Whenever Sean plays near the line of scrimmage, he is always in on the tackle. Check out some of the highlight reels at www.youtube.com and see how often Sean blows up RBs and FBs.

These guys come to mind from last season:
Lamont Jordan
Lorenzo Neal
JJ Arrington
Priest Holmes
both Philly RBs

It's not completely wrong. Man, why is it with Commander fans if you don't admit their player is the BEST IN THE WORLD they act like you said "He sucks...and he slept with your mom.." ?

Taylor might be great around the LoS. But Roy Williams is absolutely farking AMAZING near the LoS, and Taylor isn't even in the same league at that part of the game. Nothing against Taylor, mind you.

 

[Gibby!]

You can ask the Cards RB too, he ducked (on 4th and 2 with the game on the line no less) avoid a Taylor hit as opposed to fight for the yards and the game.

LOL!! Thats a really bad example...

 

[Vintage]

Here, let me help the Commander fans out, so they don't feel like Taylor is being disrespected....

Taylor PWNs the l337 sauce!1!1!11oneeleven!11!11!11

OMG***BBQ!!!!!!

There.

 

[BigDFan5]

LOL!! Thats a really bad example...

Especially since that same cardinal RB was put out of a game by a Roy Williams hit lol

 

[peplaw06]

Hall was touted as the best CB in the league by Chad Johnson. I believe it was on ESPN's the Hot Seat when it was said. Furthermore, Irvin apparently said the same thing. I was told this by a Falcon.Scout member who I've asked for a link as proof. I've discusses numerous things regarding the Falcons, and have asked for links in the past, which he has always provided me. I am awaiting the link to Irvin's statement, because I too, want proof (since this is the first time I've heard of Irvin making such statements).

I happened to watch that Hot Seat with Chad. IIRC, they were talking about his "list" of CBs he makes... a list of who he thinks he's gonna torch. ESPN asked him which CBs he was looking forward to facing this season. That's when he mentioned Hall. From what I recall he never called Hall the best in the league. I don't think Chad would make that call. He doesn't think any of em are good, or good enough to slow him down.

That being said, Chad has probably looked at film of Hall getting ready to face him. They don't play Dallas this year, and I don't remember Newman or Johnson ever facing off, so he may have never even studied film on Newman. So if he were to call Hall the best over Newman, it probably wouldn't hold much weight, because he hasn't compared them. I imagine most NFL guys only watch film on guys they know they'll be facing. It would be a monumental waste of time to watch film on guys you've never seen or aren't scheduled to see.

 

[peplaw06]

The Cowboys used a mixture of coverages and disguised coverages against Smith. Newman was lined up against him for most of the game (until Smith got ejected), but not all of the game. (Smith's only catch of the game came when Newman was covering someone else.) Smith was double- or triple-teamed some of the time, but certainly not all of the time. Dallas played quite a bit of zone coverage in that game, too, which essentially prevents the defense from double- or triple-covering anyone without leaving huge gaps in the zones. And Dallas often gave a pre-snap look of double-teaming Smith but shifted out of it before or after the snap.

So it's not accurate to say that Newman shut down Smith 1-on-1 every play, and it's not accurate to say that Dallas double-covered Smith on every play, either. In reality, it was a mixture that included both of those, plus other coverage schemes.

Yazz??? Anyone else notice he's been MIA since Adam put him out of his misery? Guess he didn't reach for that life preserver...

 

[HeHateMe]

sean taylor or roy williams who hits the hardest..its close,but i have to lean towards sean taylor...reason being roy grabs from behind alot and he gets big hits on people who are not ready to protect themselves,sean has more head to head were the other guy is squared up and sean goes head to head and knocks the runner backwards,i think sean comes with more force..how do you see it?

It's close, but Taylor gets the nod? And your moniker is "redskins1"?

I wouldve never guessed you thought so.

It's not even close.

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

Taylor might be great around the LoS. But Roy Williams is absolutely farking AMAZING near the LoS, and Taylor isn't even in the same league at that part of the game. Nothing against Taylor, mind you.

I think that there is no doubt about that. Taylor still has to figure out how to take a good angle towards the ball carrier. He comes in full speed for a heavy hit everytime around the LoS, but misses a lot. The last play of the chargers game is a great example of that.

 

[starchild]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but ask Emmit Smith (one of the toughest running backs to play the game...) how hard Roy hits, he broke his collar bone....

 

[Manster54]

I do not really care who hits harder. Who makes more plays? Who causes turnovers and dictates how defenses will account for that player. I think it is a toss up.

 

[DocScholl]

Who hits the hardest? Sean Taylor or Roy Williams

Is this even a debate ?

Roy hands down .