Who is the best QB entering 2015? From NFL.com

[dallasdave]

You guys should know our OL isn't the best in the league either 'cause they too have never won a SB title. They never will be elite until they do. Witten was never elite, nor was Ware. Until you win a ring. Criteria some fans have on what is and isn't. lol. Oh ya, Dez isnt elite either. On other teams, JJ Watt isn't elite too for same reason.

Yeah, to be the man you have to beat the man= Cowboys need to win Super Bowl this year, then we start the best their is....

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Yeah, to be the man you have to beat the man= Cowboys need to win Super Bowl this year, then we start the best their is....

Yup, until Watt wins a sb, he is just good, never elite.

 

[dallasdave]

Yup, until Watt wins a sb, he is just good, never elite.

Hope this year is the start of many Super Bowl wins for the Cowboys, hope they just start winning them and don't quit.

 

[Tobal]

Brees
Ben
Eli
Luck - Mostly due to the age factor. Way more physically talented than Romo.
R. Wilson - Another age pick.

Eli? all credibility lost sir

 

[Tobal]

If my life depended on it and I had to choose a QB to run this team (I'm throwing out that Romo and this team have chemistry). I'd rank them like this.

Rogers - can't stand the guy but he's just damn good
Brady
Romo
Big Ben - ugh
Other - underated

And no, Rogers would not have led this team to a Super Bowl by now

 

[Plumfool]

If my life depended on it and I had to choose a QB to run this team (I'm throwing out that Romo and this team have chemistry). I'd rank them like this.

Rogers - can't stand the guy but he's just damn good
Brady
Romo
Big Ben - ugh
Other - underated

And no, Rogers would not have led this team to a Super Bowl by now

That last sentence is gold.

 

[KJJ]

Your labeling of fans that disagree with you as homers is no less juvenile as my making a drinking game of your use of the label FAN is.

I really need to address that comment to set you and others straight because that is totally false. I label someone as a FAN whose opinions are preconceived or unreasoned and are heavily based on bias. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether they agree with my opinions or not. A FAN is someone who goes with their heart. Some of the crazy predictions we see prior to every season is the FAN coming out in many. I've had some FANS agree with me on some issues and I've had some realists who've disagreed with me. Saying I call someone a FAN who doesn't agree with me is so wrong it had to be addressed. This is the problem with some of you here you get a lot of what I say twisted. A lot of FANS here would rather toss insults than click on Google and do some research. They all know they'll never be able to refute the comments they attack me on because I work with facts and have plenty of them to back my position.

They have nothing to back their position because their position is based on their FANDOM. It's virtually impossible for any of them to break down my position with all the research and facts that I bring to these discussions. For some to show up in discussions simply to personally attack and insult those who chose to give objective, honest opinions is as low as it gets on these boards. No one is going to deter me from giving my opinions. To give you an idea of the circus that's going on inside the heads of a few here someone sent me a PM about a year ago informing me that they received a PM from someone who was trying to get them to join an alliance against me. lol Some take it way too seriously here and probably shouldn't even be allowed to have internet access.

 

[burmafrd]

I really need to address that comment to set you and others straight because that is totally false. I label someone as a FAN whose opinions are preconceived or unreasoned and are heavily based on bias. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether they agree with my opinions or not. A FAN is someone who goes with their heart. Some of the crazy predictions we see prior to every season is the FAN coming out in many. I've had some FANS agree with me on some issues and I've had some realists who've disagreed with me. Saying I call someone a FAN who doesn't agree with me is so wrong it had to be addressed. This is the problem with some of you here you get a lot of what I say twisted. A lot of FANS here would rather toss insults than click on Google and do some research. They all know they'll never be able to refute the comments they attack me on because I work with facts and have plenty of them to back my position.

They have nothing to back their position because their position is based on their FANDOM. It's virtually impossible for any of them to break down my position with all the research and facts that I bring to these discussions. For some to show up in discussions simply to personally attack and insult those who chose to give objective, honest opinions is as low as it gets on these boards. No one is going to deter me from giving my opinions. To give you an idea of the circus that's going on inside the heads of a few here someone sent me a PM about a year ago informing me that they received a PM from someone who was trying to get them to join an alliance against me. lol Some take it way too seriously here and probably shouldn't even be allowed to have internet access.

form an ALLIANCE against you? now that is funny

 

[JDSmith]

I'm personally all over the place in terms of what I think of Luck as a QB.

On one hand, he has averaged 14 interceptions per season -- which is too high. He has thrown even more in the playoffs.

On the other hand, he has led his team the playoffs every single season of his 3 year career culminating with 40 TD season last year and getting his very average Colts team into the AFC Championship.

In many ways he is going through a very natural and steady progression to the Superbowl.

If he wasn't heralded as the next Peyton Manning we'd all be in awe of Luck.

How do you think Luck would do if that average Colts team played in the NFCE? Say they pulled Washington and replaced them with the Colts, do you honestly think Luck would lead that team anywhere beyond 8 - 8? They would never sniff the playoffs, and Luck would likely throw another dozen picks a year if he were moved out of the worst division in football, at least IMO.

 

[perrykemp]

How do you think Luck would do if that average Colts team played in the NFCE? Say they pulled Washington and replaced them with the Colts, do you honestly think Luck would lead that team anywhere beyond 8 - 8? They would never sniff the playoffs, and Luck would likely throw another dozen picks a year if he were moved out of the worst division in football, at least IMO.

Is the NFCE some sort of powerhouse?

If anything the NFCE has been mediocre since the Giants 2011 Superbowl run which was 4 years ago at this point. Has a NFCE team progressed beyond the wildcard round since then?

 

[burmafrd]

Is the NFCE some sort of powerhouse?

If anything the NFCE has been mediocre since the Giants 2011 Superbowl run which was 4 years ago at this point. Has a NFCE team progressed beyond the wildcard round since then?

still much tougher then the Colts division.

 

[ufcrules1]

And no, Rogers would not have led this team to a Super Bowl by now

You're right, it would probably be 2 Super Bowls by now. Rodgers is night and day better than Romo.

 

[Tobal]

You're right, it would probably be 2 Super Bowls by now. Rodgers is night and day better than Romo.

I listed Rogers as better, but tell me what games he would have won that would have put the Cowboys in the Super bowl? Would Rogers have made Patrick Crayton keep running his route vs the Giants? Green Bay has had better teams than Dallas and Rogers has won only one Super bowl.

 

[ghst187]

Just don't get the Luck love, he MAY be good one day but he isn't a top tier guy right now. Seems like everyone is more enamored with his potential than his actual play. Top ten, sure, but top five....?

 

[burmafrd]

You're right, it would probably be 2 Super Bowls by now. Rodgers is night and day better than Romo.

you really need professional help.

 

[KJJ]

Would Rogers have made Patrick Crayton keep running his route vs the Giants? Green Bay has had better teams than Dallas and Rogers has won only one Super bowl.

Rodgers wouldn't have completed only 50% of his passes and finished with a passer rating of 64.7. Despite the two botched plays by Crayton Romo wasn't sharp that day and was slumping heading into the playoffs. If you don't remember go checkout his passer ratings and TD to turnover ratios for Nov of 07 and compare them to his Dec/Jan performances. Aaron Rodgers has led the Packers to the playoffs 6 straight seasons only missing the playoffs once since he's been the Packers starter. He's only won one SB but that's one more than Dan Marino, Dan Fouts and a lot of other QB's. It's not easy winning a SB but Rodgers gives the Packers a chance every year. In 2011 he led a Packers team that had the 32nd ranked defense to a 15-1 record. He's done more with less than just about any QB in the league which is why he's won 2 league MVP awards.

 

[Gator88]

Rodgers wouldn't have completed only 50% of his passes and finished with a passer rating of 64.7. Despite the two botched plays by Crayton Romo wasn't sharp that day and was slumping heading into the playoffs. If you don't remember go checkout his passer ratings and TD to turnover ratios for Nov of 07 and compare them to his Dec/Jan performances. Aaron Rodgers has led the Packers to the playoffs 6 straight seasons only missing the playoffs once since he's been the Packers starter. He's only won one SB but that's one more than Dan Marino, Dan Fouts and a lot of other QB's. It's not easy winning a SB but Rodgers gives the Packers a chance every year. In 2011 he led a Packers team that had the 32nd ranked defense to a 15-1 record. He's done more with less than just about any QB in the league which is why he's won 2 league MVP awards.

You do remember that TO got injured, and wasn't nearly 100% which took an enormous toll on our passing offense, yes? Combine that with the pass rush the Giants were getting in the second half, injured and rusty Terry Glenn being on the field a lot, and Crayton being completely unreliable, it's surprising Romo didn't perform that badly. I doubt Rodgers in his first full year starting would have done that much better, the 6-10 2008 Packers weren't exactly a powerhouse.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

You do remember that TO got injured, and wasn't nearly 100% which took an enormous toll on our passing offense, yes? Combine that with the pass rush the Giants were getting in the second half, injured and rusty Terry Glenn being on the field a lot, and Crayton being completely unreliable, it's surprising Romo didn't perform that badly. I doubt Rodgers in his first full year starting would have done that much better, the 6-10 2008 Packers weren't exactly a powerhouse.

To take it even further, the 2007 version of Rodgers was a bench warmer, while Romo led the NFC with 36 TDs. Saying that Rodgers would have done better in that situation is sheer lunacy, but that's what our resident ufc is all about...

 

[KJJ]

You do remember that TO got injured, and wasn't nearly 100% which took an enormous toll on our passing offense, yes? Combine that with the pass rush the Giants were getting in the second half, injured and rusty Terry Glenn being on the field a lot, and Crayton being completely unreliable, it's surprising Romo didn't perform that badly. I doubt Rodgers in his first full year starting would have done that much better, the 6-10 2008 Packers weren't exactly a powerhouse.

TO was injured a few weeks earlier and although he wasn't 100% he still caught 4 passes for 49 yards and a TD. He had one more catch in that game than he did in the opener vs the Giants that season. What took a toll on the passing game was Romo not being the sharp QB we saw in the first 2 games vs the Giants in the regular season. Romo produced 100 plus passer ratings in both regular season games vs the Giants and 8 TD passes but both the team and Romo were slumping entering the playoffs while the Giants were on the rise.

What hurt the Cowboys in that game was a poor game plan by starting Barber for the first time all season and burning him out in the first half. After gaining over 100 yards in the first half he could only manage 26 in the second half. The Cowboys played right into the hands of the Giants by keeping the game close which is exactly how they win big games. The Cowboys defense didn't show up that day allowing Eli all kinds of time and we could never get the Giants off the field on 3rd down. The Cowboys defense looked pretty similar that day to how they looked vs the Packers this past Jan.

 

[DFWJC]

All QBs can have bad games in or out of the playoffs.

In Rodgers' most recent playoff game, he had a 55.8 QB rating, 1 TD and 2 INTs. He's outstanding, but not perfect.