Who is the better... Brady or Aikman?

[Bob Sacamano]

Shame on him? For what? For trying to look at things objectively (for him)?

yeah, calling Aikman a system QB is looking at it objectively *end sarcasm*

Brady is an amazing QB.

have I said anything that contradicts that idea? I just don't like how he's going about his argument is all

 

[Vintage]

calling Aikman a system QB is looking at it objectively

You could argue Montana was a system QB...playing in the WCO.

I don't personally understand why people say so and so is a "system QB" as a way to undermine them. If they play great in that system; thats what you want....isn't it? And who wouldn't tailor an offense to its QB (if their QB is a strength on the a team)?

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Troy Aikman. Come on now. This isn't even comparable. Troy Aikman was the most winning and accurate quarterback of this time.

Guess what he broke records at winning and Dan Marino broke records with stats.

Who do you think is the better Quarterback between Dan Marino and Troy Aikman? I give you your opinion. TROY AIKMAN

 

[doomsday81]

I also think Staubach was better than Aikman. Should I be ashamed of myself for that too? I think Walter Payton and Jim Brown were both better than Emmitt - my favorite player of all-time. Does that make me not a Cowboys fan because I'm also a football fan and not just a blind homer? I don't think so. God, I freaking hate Tom Brady and you people are making me defend the idiot. I'll tell you what, go on the mesaage boards of all other 31 teams, post this question and count up the votes. Then come talk to me and tell me that you guys aren't being homers. Good night and God bless.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You could argue Montana was a system QB...playing in the WCO.

I don't personally understand why people say so and so is a "system QB" as a way to undermine them. If they play great in that system; thats what you want....isn't it? And who wouldn't tailor an offense to its QB (if their QB is a strength on the a team)?

being called a system QB is saying that it's system that made you, which is true in a ways, but what I don't like about using that term, is that it's also implying that it's the only system where you would find success in, which in the case of Aikman, I don't believe to be true, he was a great QB, and great QBs can succeed in any system

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I also think Staubach was better than Aikman. Should I be ashamed of myself for that too? I think Walter Payton and Jim Brown were both better than Emmitt - my favorite player of all-time. Does that make me not a Cowboys fan because I'm also a football fan and not just a blind homer?

nope, not at all, it's just how you undermine their success by using phrases such as, "product of the system", "product of the line", that would get me

 

[Bob Sacamano]

and dooms, answer this, if I chose Aikman over Brady to lead my team, would I be wrong? and would my team be worse off? hardly, it's all about personal preference, so conducting a poll on 31 message boards would be pointless

 

[SultanOfSix]

The league was already watered way down by 1998. The Vikings went 15-1 for Christ sakes. Sorry but arguing the 1992 team and the years from 97 and after aren't the same thing. Aikman played against a lot of terrible competition over the years. Didn't they make the playoffs with an 8-8 record in 1999? Who was the QB of that team against all that great competition? I think my point is proven.

Where was the Cowboy's talent level at that time in the down years? You seem to be rationalizing that Brady is great and carried his team, but the talent level for the rest of his team was at least as comparable to himself when they were winning SBs just like the talent level was at least as comparable to Aikman for his team when they were winning SBs. Where was Brady when his team went 6-10 after winning its first SB?

Like I already said, you can't have it both ways.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

One last thing: Troy Aikman was NEVER considered the best quarterback in the NFL while he was playing. Not only is Brady considered the best right now, he gets compared to some of the all-time greats and he's only entering his sixth season. Keep that in mind, Brady is just entering his prime as he showed last year. Remember all the, "Brady is just part of a system" crap we heard? That he can't do what Peyton Manning does? I think he put that to rest last year. When it's all said and done years from now, this argument we are having now will be moot. Brady will go down as one of the two or three greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game and I don't think even this bunch of homers will say that about Aikman.

PS I love Aikman but I won't side with him on argument just because he's a Cowboy, despite how good he was. I just think this one is a blowout. If anyone was the system QB, it was Aikman. When he had to do what Brady did last year - playing without a strong supporting cast - he turned into an average quarterback. Sorry but that's the truth.

Even with his failings in the playoffs, the older Manning is still the best QB in the NFL. Far more gifted passer than Brady.

 

[lurkercowboy]

Hypothetical situation: You are the coach in the Super Bowl, your team trails by 5 points and your starting QB just got injured. Your team has the ball first down on your own twenty with time for one last drive.

Amazingly, the ghost of Walter Camp appears and offers you the services of any quarterback who ever played the game to come in as your field general for this last drive.

Who do you choose?

 

[Vintage]

Hypothetical situation: You are the coach in the Super Bowl, your team trails by 5 points and your starting QB just got injured. Your team has the ball first down on your own twenty with time for one last drive.

Amazingly, the ghost of Walter Camp appears and offers you the services of any quarterback who ever played the game to come in as your field general for this last drive.

Who do you choose?

Probably Montana.

 

[dwmyers]

One last thing: Troy Aikman was NEVER considered the best quarterback in the NFL while he was playing.

I'm going to use this comment as a starting point for discussion. Aikman was playing at a time when some very excellent quarterbacks were also playing. Guys like Marino, Elway, Steve Young, Brett Favre were around in the Aikman years and the ghost of Joe Montana wasn't exorcized that long ago. Aikman doesn't look as good in a quarterback ranking because he played in a period of excellent competition.

Brady by contrast, had only Peyton Manning for comparison for a long while, and now perhaps Ben Rothlisberger. The caliber of the top 5 quarterbacks in the Brady era isn't as high as it was in Aikman's time. So Brady looks much better by contrast.

Who is better? I think many of the posters here are spot on when they say it depends on the offense they are in.

David.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Troy Aikman. Come on now. This isn't even comparable. Troy Aikman was the most winning and accurate quarterback of this time.

Guess what he broke records at winning and Dan Marino broke records with stats.

Who do you think is the better Quarterback between Dan Marino and Troy Aikman? I give you your opinion. TROY AIKMAN

Ok, but doesnt Brady have something like 50 wins in 5 years? comparable to Troy and his 90 in a decade?

 

[lurkercowboy]

Ok, but doesnt Brady have something like 50 wins in 5 years? comparable to Troy and his 90 in a decade?

Archie Manning was a pretty good QB and he had a terrible win-loss record. That is not the sole indicator of an individual players ability.

 

[lurkercowboy]

I'm going to use this comment as a starting point for discussion. Aikman was playing at a time when some very excellent quarterbacks were also playing. Guys like Marino, Elway, Steve Young, Brett Favre were around in the Aikman years and the ghost of Joe Montana wasn't exorcized that long ago. Aikman doesn't look as good in a quarterback ranking because he played in a period of excellent competition.

Brady by contrast, had only Peyton Manning for comparison for a long while, and now perhaps Ben Rothlisberger. The caliber of the top 5 quarterbacks in the Brady era isn't as high as it was in Aikman's time. So Brady looks much better by contrast.

Who is better? I think many of the posters here are spot on when they say it depends on the offense they are in.

David.

Good points. There were some really great QB's in the league at that time. More than there are now.

 

[Da Hammer]

No question that on Aikman. Aikman could have been a 4,000 pass yards a year if it weren't for us not needing him to do that cause of our dominant run game. Brady is an awesome leader but sometimes i think he's a system QB

 

[Colo]

NE offense, much like what BP wants to do, is predicated on having multiple JAGs ( just another guys) and not superstars at skill positions mostly. Thats why its kind of hard to scheme against NE, because, there is really no Big time WR you have defend or game plan against. They make you defend entire field pretty much and thats where the strength is. And thats where BP wants to head to, IMO.

TOs signing gives me a different opinion.

 

[RCowboyFan]

TOs signing gives me a different opinion.

If you are talking about not having superstars? Yeah, BP has deviated from that. But the idea for him always has been to have multiple options. What Brady does so well, is see the field really well and quickly.

 

[dougonthebench]

Aikman

 

[Sarge]

Two great QBs. If I had to choose, I would pick Aikman for his accuracy and leadership.

Interesting...... If you were to pick one based on leadership I would think that would be Brady.......not Aikman.