Who is the better... Brady or Aikman?

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I stopped reading when I saw Aikman. People ...can anyone spell H O F !

AIKMAN ...no questions asked!
 

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Sarge said:
Interesting...... If you were to pick one based on leadership I would think that would be Brady.......not Aikman.

Brady has played for Belichek his whole career so he didn't have to be the leader of the team as much as Aikman did while under Switzer, for example.

Not to take anything away from Brady. I wish Dallas had him and I don't wish Dallas had some of the other "name" QBs today.
 

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one question... if BRADY and AIKMAN switched kickers who would have more rings?
 

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Boy, that's a tough one. I say it's a draw, or maybe Brady by the slimmest of margins.
 

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MONT17 said:
one question... if BRADY and AIKMAN switched kickers who would have more rings?


Its an interesting post... but Brady helped get them in position to hit those FG's too... I am get what you are sayin though...

Both GREAT QB's - just different greatness
 

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Gee, who am I going to pick?

Another factor to add in to this is coaching. Tom Brady has had one of the best coaches in history keeping that team together. After Jimmy left, who did Troy have?

Keep in mind that the Patriots started 42 different players during their last Super Bowl run. Add that all in and that does nothing but help Brady in the long run. That's not Tom's "fault", but keep Jimmy and Norv in the fold with some continuity...Troy, in my opinion, is the QB with the most SB rings.
 

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Aikmaniac said:
Gee, who am I going to pick?

Another factor to add in to this is coaching. Tom Brady has had one of the best coaches in history keeping that team together. After Jimmy left, who did Troy have?

Keep in mind that the Patriots started 42 different players during their last Super Bowl run. Add that all in and that does nothing but help Brady in the long run. That's not Tom's "fault", but keep Jimmy and Norv in the fold with some continuity...Troy, in my opinion, is the QB with the most SB rings.

How does starting 42 different players help Brady?
 

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Vintage said:
How does starting 42 different players help Brady?

I brought that up to show how good a coach Belichik is compared to Switzer, Gailey, and Campo.
 

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Aikman played in the most competative era in NFL history. Dallas was competing against San Francisco, Buffalo, Green Bay, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh,etc, all of whom would dominate in todays NFL.

Aikman was not only better, but played better against better competition
 

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I thought about this long and hard. Dale and I were talking about how good Brady was long before a lot of people were ready to say yeah, he's not a fluke. I really like the kid, especially his poise. So, what I'm about to say is not in any way a dig at him or his greatness.

Greatness is often about timing. If Brady had come along when the Cowboys were an up and coming team instead of the Patriots there is not a doubt in my mind that Aikman would not have lost his job the way Bledsoe did.

This is not a dig at Bledsoe either. I like the guy and always have. Not to the extent some do where he is elevated to 1st ballot HOFer if he wins a Super Bowl here, but I do like the guy. That doesn't change the fact that in a couple of big games he had let the Patriots down and was already being looked at as a guy who like Peyton Manning "could not win the big game."

Troy never had that label. It's not about my love for Troy or my Cowboys homer attitude because I will tell you point blank that Troy is not the best QB of his era and Brady might be of his. Brady would not be if he were in the same era as Troy. Marino, Elway, and Favre still would be above Brady and I think Troy would too. He deserves the credit for the era he played in. That was some of the best football ever played, and he was the leader.
 

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Hostile said:
I thought about this long and hard. Dale and I were talking about how good Brady was long before a lot of people were ready to say yeah, he's not a fluke. I really like the kid, especially his poise. So, what I'm about to say is not in any way a dig at him or his greatness.

Greatness is often about timing. If Brady had come along when the Cowboys were an up and coming team instead of the Patriots there is not a doubt in my mind that Aikman would not have lost his job the way Bledsoe did.

This is not a dig at Bledsoe either. I liek the guy and always have. Not to the extent some do where he is elevated to 1st ballot HOFer if he wins a Super Bowl here, but I do like the guy. That doesn't change the fact that in a couple of big games he had let the Patriots down and was already being looked at as a guy who like Peyton Manning "could not win the big game."

Troy never had that label. It's not about my love for Troy or my Cowboys homer attitude because I will tell you point blank that Troy is not the best QB of his era and Brady might be of his. Brady would not be if he were in the same era as Troy. Marino, Elway, and Favre still would be above Brady and I think Troy would too. He deserves the credit for the era he played in. That was some of the best football ever played, and he was the leader.

In all fairness to Manning and Bledsoe, neither had arguably the greatest team in history around them. Not saying Troy wasnt a proven winner, but he did have a lot of ammunition at his disposal on both sides of the ball.
 

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juckie said:
yes i am bored,i was thinking that IMO its a draw,and they are very similiar.
Aikman had a lot more talent around him on offense than Brady has had for the most part.

But regardless both are very, very clutch when their teams needed them to be.

You can't go wrong with either choice though.
 

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Troy had a great oline, one of the best WR ever, and the best RB ever (at least in terms of yardage). He also had one of the best defenses in the last 30 years. Played great in the big games, but struggled mightily later in his career as the oline and emmitt declined.

Brady is not even 30 yet and has 3 superbowl rings, and has done this with marginal talent at every offensive position. However he has had a great coaching staff, the best clutch kicker of all time, and a phenomenal defense that played huge in the big games.

The Answer is sorry, but he has to say Brady....especially since his career is far from finished assuming he stays healthy.

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The Answer said:
and a phenomenal defense that played huge in the big games.

I give as much credit to that D for those 3 Super Bowl rings as I give Brady, remember how the 3-4 came back into style? w/o that D, the Pats dont' have 3 rings
 

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Aikman. Ive never seen a QB as accurate as he was, not even today. He may be the most accurate QB ever.
 

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PullMyFinger said:
Aikman. Ive never seen a QB as accurate as he was, not even today. He may be the most accurate QB ever.

I heard John Madden once on MNF talking about attending a Dallas practice before the game. He was just amazed by Troy. Said he never saw a practice were not one throw was off target. He said the ball never hit the ground.
 

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The Answer said:
Troy had a great oline, one of the best WR ever, and the best RB ever (at least in terms of yardage). He also had one of the best defenses in the last 30 years. Played great in the big games, but struggled mightily later in his career as the oline and emmitt declined.

Brady is not even 30 yet and has 3 superbowl rings, and has done this with marginal talent at every offensive position. However he has had a great coaching staff, the best clutch kicker of all time, and a phenomenal defense that played huge in the big games.

The Answer is sorry, but he has to say Brady....especially since his career is far from finished assuming he stays healthy.

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Please dont take defense but, how old are you? Reason I ask is that I am just old enough to catch the last part of Roger's career and all of Danny's and Troy's along with Tom's and I can say without a doubt it is Troy Aikman.
 

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I think thats where underestimation of Aikman comes. Aikman I believe would have won three SBs with NE team and probably Brady with Cowboys team.

Statistically, Brady is a better qb. More yds, more tds in every full season he's played than Aikman ever posted. He's also won 3 SB's with less talented players.

As much as I like Troy, it really is no contest. The only QB that might have been better than Brady was Montana, but the book is yet to be completed for Brady.

As for arm strength. I've heard that argument for Brady vs. Bledsoe. It's garbage. Brady can and has thrown 60 yd passes as accurately as any qb in the league. That just isnt the Pats offensive style and has nothing to do with his ability.
 

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Statistically, Brady is a better qb. More yds, more tds in every full season he's played than Aikman ever posted. He's also won 3 SB's with less talented players.

As much as I like Troy, it really is no contest. The only QB that might have been better than Brady was Montana, but the book is yet to be completed for Brady.

As for arm strength. I've heard that argument for Brady vs. Bledsoe. It's garbage. Brady can and has thrown 60 yd passes as accurately as any qb in the league. That just isnt the Pats offensive style and has nothing to do with his ability.

This is the stuff that I hate about the rotoball generation. Its like people can't look at PLAYERS they look at NUMBERS. Aikman was a better talent, a player with better physical abilities, and then was the winningest QB of any decade on top of that. All the stuff about best WR, RB, defense, etc is in the eye of beholder, and even gets changed by the same people depending upon which argument they want to make.

I take Troy against Brady with the exact same teams, and I'll win most of the time.
 
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