Who uses a mac?

[CowboyWay]

I've been thinking about going with a Macbook pro for my next laptop.

Any of you use them exclusively? Are they as good as advertised, would you ever go back?

 

[YosemiteSam]

 

[tomson75]

I've been thinking about going with a Macbook pro for my next laptop.

Any of you use them exclusively? Are they as good as advertised, would you ever go back?

Not exclusively, but primarily.

Yes.

No.

PC's most definitely have their place, but for my needs, the Macs are the FAR better tool.

Don't let the haters dissuade you. They'll attack Mac owners all day....but they can't say a damn thing about the product. I wonder why.

 

[theogt]

Depends on what you're using it for.

For 95% of the answers to that question, PC is better.

 

[tomson75]

Depends on what you're using it for.

For 95% of the answers to that question, PC is better.

Prove it...or at least support it. That's a wildly inaccurate statement.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I've been thinking about going with a Macbook pro for my next laptop.

Any of you use them exclusively? Are they as good as advertised, would you ever go back?

Do you just browse the web, doctor photos, and listen to iTunes?

If you do anything more advanced business or gaming wise, it would be a mistake.

 

[theogt]

Prove it...or at least support it. That's a wildly inaccurate statement.

Do you just browse the web, doctor photos, and listen to iTunes?

If you do anything more advanced business or gaming wise, it would be a mistake.

What he said.

 

[vta]

Do you just browse the web, doctor photos, and listen to iTunes?

If you do anything more advanced business or gaming wise, it would be a mistake.

That's not true at all.
My living is earned 100% with a Mac and games are not even a consideration, (they're time-wasters). The value of a thing is if it actually brings you gains. As an illustrator/photographer, all of my work is done on a Mac. That's not to say the same can't be said for a Windows box, it's all a matter of preference or simply not knowing the other.

Mac has always been superior in color management, and sub-par at 3D and were generally slower until Mac switched to Intel. They were also inferior in advertising throughout the 90's, which created the head start for Windows.

The problems that occur differ because of architecture and not the number of people using. No virus' on a Mac because nothing can execute without your say, but some physical problems lead to trouble, because of the proprietary nature of Mac. Both have their + & -'s.

If the OP has the money and interest, buying a Mac isn't going to cause crying over any sort of lack.

 

[ajk23az]

Windows took a huge fall when they released Vista, I beta tested (and am currently using) the new Windows 7 OS coming out in October and it was 100X better than Vista.

IMO, it isn't worth the extra coin to spend on a Mac if you can do what you want on a PC.

 

[MapleLeaf]

I've been thinking about going with a Macbook pro for my next laptop.

Any of you use them exclusively? Are they as good as advertised, would you ever go back?

...a photographer, designer, architect, film maker, musician or associated in anyway with the visual and audio arts then go with the MAC.

The machine and the software vendors will make life infinitely more enjoyable.

If you are running a purely business machine check with your employer or software vendors in your job sector. There are many proprietary programs developed for industries that will only run on a PC.

If your just reading the CowboysZone and staring at naked pictures both will do.

The MAC does come at a premium and typically those who can absorb the premium do so for functional purposes. IE they are in the audio/visual arts category.

Spend your money wisely.

 

[YosemiteSam]

That's not true at all.

You say this, then tell us you do exactly what I said it is good for.

My living is earned 100% with a Mac and games are not even a consideration, (they're time-wasters). The value of a thing is if it actually brings you gains. As an illustrator/photographer, all of my work is done on a Mac. That's not to say the same can't be said for a Windows box, it's all a matter of preference or simply not knowing the other.

Exactly what I said. Not for games or anything but photo editing, iTunes, and web browsing. Illustrator is a graphical art program. While I didn't name it specifically, I still fits in the same category.

Mac has always been superior in color management, and sub-par at 3D and were generally slower until Mac switched to Intel. They were also inferior in advertising throughout the 90's, which created the head start for Windows.

Rinse and repeat

The problems that occur differ because of architecture and not the number of people using. No virus' on a Mac because nothing can execute without your say, but some physical problems lead to trouble, because of the proprietary nature of Mac. Both have their + & -'s.

Incorrect. There ARE viruses for Macs. The reason you don't see as many is because Mac are very limited use. What I mean by that is there are probably a billion Windows users, compared to a few million Mac users. If you're going to write a virus, you do it to attack as many as possible. You wouldn't waste time writing one to attack 10 people, you would write one to attack 10s of thousands or more.

To say you can't execute anything on a Mac without specifically saying so is a load of garbage. The only kind of attack that a user specifically says to execute is a Trojan virus. Trojans aren't the only viruses and Macs are affected by not only Trojans, but many many other types of attacks.

Did you know that Apple has release Mac Anti-Virus? Odd isn't it since Mac doesn't suffer from Viruses.

About.com's Mac Virus FAQ

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

Steve Jobs does...

 

[vta]

You say this, then tell us you do exactly what I said it is good for.
Exactly what I said. Not for games or anything but photo editing, iTunes, and web browsing. Illustrator is a graphical art program. While I didn't name it specifically, I still fits in the same category. Rinse and repeat

I take it you don't know what Illustration as a vocation is, nor what Illustrator the software is used for?

A living isn't browsing the web and listening to iTunes and Photo retouching is an amazingly high paying job that I don't do much of; how you interpreted Illustrator as a vocation to mean Photo Editing, I can only guess at.

Incorrect. There ARE viruses for Macs. The reason you don't see as many is because Mac are very limited use. What I mean by that is there are probably a billion Windows users, compared to a few million Mac users. If you're going to write a virus, you do it to attack as many as possible. You wouldn't waste time writing one to attack 10 people, you would write one to attack 10s of thousands or more.

To say you can't execute anything on a Mac without specifically saying so is a load of garbage. The only kind of attack that a user specifically says to execute is a Trojan virus. Trojans aren't the only viruses and Macs are affected by not only Trojans, but many many other types of attacks.

Did you know that Apple has release Mac Anti-Virus? Odd isn't it since Mac doesn't suffer from Viruses.

About.com's Mac Virus FAQ

You're living in the past. You must have missed the steady growth of Apple and all of it's products. It's not being ignored, it's just simply more secure. While some Mac specific tech's can certainly create malware for it, the chances of anything causing system/software problems are practically zero. Nothing happens that either as Admin user you don't know about or limited user you can't know about, but not change. Like running processes.

Go to an Apple forum and look at the complaints. I'll wait and see your answer to the question of, of what nature are they? I'll give you a hint, it's never a system restore due to malware.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I know exactly what Illustrator is. Before my current employment I was the infrastructure engineer for one of the biggest marketing firms in the world. We had entire departments that used Macs. I will also note, that ONLY the artistic departments used Macs. ...and for very good reason.

You're living in a dream if you think the only reason Windows has more viruses is because Apple is more secure. Windows has it's security issues, but that isn't the reason it has more viruses.

btw, more viruses exist for Macs than Linux. Linux must be far more secure!

 

[vta]

I know exactly what Illustrator is. Before my current employment I was the infrastructure engineer for one of the biggest marketing firms in the world. We had entire departments that used Macs. I will also note, that ONLY the artistic departments used Macs. ...and for very good reason.

You're living in a dream if you think the only reason Windows has more viruses is because Apple is more secure. Windows has it's security issues, but that isn't the reason it has more viruses.

btw, more viruses exist for Macs than Linux. Linux must be far more secure!

Then you should know, Illustrator is vector art software and has nothing to with doctoring photos and isn't a necessary requirement to being an illustrator.

One could say, that outside of the art department, why would anyone pay that kind of money for a typewriter?? But believe it or not they do. All of the copy editors, writers and researchers for the Pharma-Ad industry I work in uses: Macbooks. Coincidently just what the OP asked for a gauge of it's worth, i.e. aside from surfing, iTunes and photo doctoring, you can do plenty with a Mac, as a great number of professionals earn their keep with a Mac.

And you should also know that Linux is based on Unix. Mac OS X is also based on Unix, which is why it is far more secure than Windows. You can also run Windows within Mac OS X, so therefore, you get both OS's for one machine and can play the same games, if you're inclined.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

nerd fight!!!!

 

[theogt]

Then you should know, Illustrator is vector art software and has nothing to with doctoring photos and isn't a necessary requirement to being an illustrator.

One could say, that outside of the art department, why would anyone pay that kind of money for a typewriter?? But believe it or not they do. All of the copy editors, writers and researchers for the Pharma-Ad industry I work in uses: Macbooks. Coincidently just what the OP asked for a gauge of it's worth, i.e. aside from surfing, iTunes and photo doctoring, you can do plenty with a Mac, as a great number of professionals earn their keep with a Mac.

And you should also know that Linux is based on Unix. Mac OS X is also based on Unix, which is why it is far more secure than Windows. You can also run Windows within Mac OS X, so therefore, you get both OS's for one machine and can play the same games, if you're inclined.

You can say "a great number" but you can also say "a very small minority" of professionals earn their keep with a Mac.

 

[theebs]

...a photographer, designer, architect, film maker, musician or associated in anyway with the visual and audio arts then go with the MAC.

The machine and the software vendors will make life infinitely more enjoyable.

If you are running a purely business machine check with your employer or software vendors in your job sector. There are many proprietary programs developed for industries that will only run on a PC.

If your just reading the CowboysZone and staring at naked pictures both will do.

The MAC does come at a premium and typically those who can absorb the premium do so for functional purposes. IE they are in the audio/visual arts category.

Spend your money wisely.

I want no part of this discussion, but I just want to throw my 2 cents on something.

Almost all of the televison shows and movies you watch are edited with an Avid setup of some sort. Almost all of those editors use PC's. Avid works great with both, and most production houses use pc's.

I use avid media composer, photoshop, after effects, boris red and I have a PC.

 

[CowboyWay]

Let me clarify a few things from my original post....

I know macs are superior in the graphic arts/printing world. And maybe I'd dabble in some of that, but primarily I would use this computer as just my recreational computer.
Internet, running OS, Windows, and even Linux.

Most importantly, I just want a computer that is built like a tank. I've always had trouble with PC's. Its just always "something" with them. I was hoping I could drop 2K on a mac and just flat out be done with the nagging little problems that always seem to come up.

Is it overkill for what I'd use it for? Sure, I knew that when I started thinking about buying one. I just want one that will work like a rented mule, no matter what I someday decide to throw at it.

My cousin moved in with me and my family for a while, and he has an older mac. I've been using it lately, and I must say, its a damn workhorse. Faster than lighting, despite my PC's supposedly having faster processors, and more RAM. It just "feels" like its built like a tank, and that the sum***** will just run and run, and run.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Let me clarify a few things from my original post....

I know macs are superior in the graphic arts/printing world. And maybe I'd dabble in some of that, but primarily I would use this computer as just my recreational computer.
Internet, running OS, Windows, and even Linux.

Most importantly, I just want a computer that is built like a tank. I've always had trouble with PC's. Its just always "something" with them. I was hoping I could drop 2K on a mac and just flat out be done with the nagging little problems that always seem to come up.

Is it overkill for what I'd use it for? Sure, I knew that when I started thinking about buying one. I just want one that will work like a rented mule, no matter what I someday decide to throw at it.

My cousin moved in with me and my family for a while, and he has an older mac. I've been using it lately, and I must say, its a damn workhorse. Faster than lighting, despite my PC's supposedly having faster processors, and more RAM. It just "feels" like its built like a tank, and that the sum***** will just run and run, and run.

Then why are you asking? If you like it, it does what you want and you're willing to spend the extra cash. Then do it!