Who would you extend this year before they breakout?

[CCBoy]

I foresee a break out season for the entire team..

All of this speaks to the increased competition that is beginning to be one of Oxnard 2014's hallmarks.
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2014...amp-practice-summary-moving-the-needle-on-the

 

[waving monkey]

I think everybody here was surprised at the Escobar pick.
I don't think it was a bad pick and neither would Lacy have been a bad pick.
If Escobar can add some decent number this [ which will be hard] then
we have our replacement TE in place.

 

[CCBoy]

I think everybody here was surprised at the Escobar pick.
I don't think it was a bad pick and neither would Lacy have been a bad pick.
If Escobar can add some decent number this [ which will be hard] then
we have our replacement TE in place.

Jason Witten was a 3rd round pick, but Escobar benefits from learning the skills from Jason. No better example to follow. And the team has to effectively build into the future. They have an acquired taste of how a tight end should be involved...and time to start being good in replacements.

Apparently, the kid has a lot going for him, and he will be up to NFL strengths shortly. That is a nice element as seen by this fan.

 

[Denim Chicken]

7m is way too much for Murray. No one will pay him more than 4-5m as a FA. He should jump at a 4/16m deal, throw in some incentives if you have to.

Charles, AD and McCoy are the tops right now and I wouldn't put Murray in their class.

Second contracts usually don't work out well for the team.

7mil is like half of what AD makes. I'm talking average, not yearly base pay.


player & transacation team & position date

Adrian Peterson at Running Back $13,714,286

Jamaal Charles at Running Back $9,050,000

LeSean McCoy at Running Back $9,000,000

Arian Foster at Running Back $8,700,000

DeAngelo Williams at Running Back $8,600,000

Matt Forte at Running Back $7,600,000

Marshawn Lynch at Running Back $7,500,000

Jonathan Stewart at Running Back $7,300,000

Ray Rice at Running Back $7,000,000

 

[CCBoy]

7mil is like half of what AD makes. I'm talking average, not yearly base pay.


player & transacation team & position date

Adrian Peterson at Running Back $13,714,286

Jamaal Charles at Running Back $9,050,000

LeSean McCoy at Running Back $9,000,000

Arian Foster at Running Back $8,700,000

DeAngelo Williams at Running Back $8,600,000

Matt Forte at Running Back $7,600,000

Marshawn Lynch at Running Back $7,500,000

Jonathan Stewart at Running Back $7,300,000

Ray Rice at Running Back $7,000,000

Wait, I don't see DeMarco Murray's name up there...nor a comparison of the past three season's totals for him in that group as well.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Wait, I don't see DeMarco Murray's name up there...nor a comparison of the past three season's totals for him in that group as well.

CC, you are more than welcome to post that info. You obviously have the time

 

[CCBoy]

CC, you are more than welcome to post that info. You obviously have the time

I'll do some work, but even without time, one can draw from a logical projection...and that being, one on one, when outside...do you think that Murray consistently wins that match up? I say not by what he has shown up to here. Give him a crease, and he does well...but to ignore a defender and just beat him...no, I don't think he measures up.

I wouldn't pay a future and quality price tag on current feelings of play. I wouldn't...either Dallas has created a monster about to be unleashed upon the NFL with a group of injured players that suddenly show stardom, or some of the current members of the roster really aren't the next level of play for them.

As to time, one makes time for a challenge to fact or truth. I presently have some time, but that's not a character flaw.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Halfway through the season, if Rolando McClain is playing well or decent, I would look to extend him at a team-friendly deal. I think he only signed a one-year contract. I have a feeling he might play pretty well for us.

 

[CCBoy]

http://i.imgur.com/wHHNuVT.png?1

Here is a Football Outsiders look at last season, w/ Murray:

RUSHING: Minimum 100 rushes, 47 players ranked
PlayerTeamDYARRkYARRkDVOARkVOARunsYardsEYdsTDFUMSuc
RateRk
L.McCoyPHI3411321118.1%316.5%3141,6071,6549152%8
D.MurrayDAL2952288224.0%123.2%2171,1191,2599253%6
J.CharlesKC2473258313.7%714.7%2591,2881,35312451%11
M.ForteCHI193419157.4%157.3%2881,3381,35110347%26
M.LynchSEA185514695.9%172.9%3011,2651,39712348%19
K.MorenoDEN171619948.4%1311.1%2411,0381,14810150%14
R.JenningsOAK1647158815.8%514.8%1637338476047%25
F.JacksonBUF163817079.1%119.8%2068901,0589251%9
E.LacyGB160917165.3%186.3%2841,1781,24611146%27
R.MathewsSD14110120153.6%191.7%2851,2551,2306249%17
S.RidleyNE135111331210.2%99.9%1787748377352%7
D.WilliamsCAR1261276207.2%160.9%2018438933143%34
A.MorrisWAS12113133112.0%213.0%2771,2781,1848648%20
D.BrownIND117141221419.2%220.3%1015335546054%2
A.EllingtonARI117151071617.5%415.4%1186575763146%30
L.BlountNE11716131139.4%1011.6%1537767477354%3

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb

 

[CCBoy]

2013

RkPlayerTeamPosAttAtt/GYdsAvgYds/GTDLng1st1st%20+40+FUM
1LeSean McCoy PHI RB 314 19.6 1,607 5.1 100.4 9 57T 79 25.2 9 3 1
2Adrian Peterson MIN RB 279 19.9 1,266 4.5 90.4 10 78T 59 21.1 8 3 3
3Jamaal Charles KC RB 259 17.3 1,287 5.0 85.8 12 46 72 27.8 6 1 4
4Matt Forte CHI RB 289 18.1 1,339 4.6 83.7 9 55 74 25.6 9 4 2
5DeMarco Murray DAL RB 217 15.5 1,121 5.2 80.1 9 43 59 27.2 8 3 2
6Alfred Morris WAS RB 276 17.2 1,275 4.6 79.7 7 45T 57 20.7 10 1 5
7Marshawn Lynch SEA RB 301 18.8 1,257 4.2 78.6 12 43 68 22.6 6 1 3

 

[CCBoy]

2012

RkPlayerTeamPosAttAtt/GYdsAvgYds/GTDLng1st1st%20+40+FUM
1Adrian Peterson MIN RB 348 21.8 2,097 6.0 131.1 12 82T 85 24.4 27 8 3
2Alfred Morris WAS RB 335 20.9 1,613 4.8 100.8 13 39T 83 24.8 9 0 4
3Marshawn Lynch SEA RB 315 19.7 1,590 5.0 99.4 11 77T 68 21.6 9 2 4
4Jamaal Charles KC RB 285 17.8 1,509 5.3 94.3 5 91T 62 21.8 11 5 5
5Doug Martin TB RB 319 19.9 1,454 4.6 90.9 11 70T 58 18.2 11 5 1
6Arian Foster HOU RB 351 21.9 1,424 4.1 89.0 15 46 78 22.2 9 1 3
7Stevan Ridley NE RB 290 18.1 1,263 4.4 78.9 12 41 82 28.3 6 1 4
8C.J. Spiller BUF RB 207 12.9 1,244 6.0 77.8 6 62 52 25.1 12 5 2
9Chris Johnson TEN RB 276 17.2 1,243 4.5 77.7 6 94T 45 16.3 8 3 3
10Frank Gore SF RB 258 16.1 1,214 4.7 75.9 8 37 67 26.0 7 0 2
11Willis McGahee DEN RB 167 16.7 731 4.4 73.1 4 31 43 25.7 2 0 5
12Matt Forte CHI RB 248 16.5 1,094 4.4 72.9 5 46 45 18.1 6 1 2
12BenJarvus Green-Ellis CIN RB 278 18.5 1,094 3.9 72.9 6 48 54 19.4 7 2 3
14Ahmad Bradshaw NYG RB 221 15.8 1,015 4.6 72.5 6 37 56 25.3 4 0 3
15Ray Rice BAL RB 257 16.1 1,143 4.4 71.4 9 46 51 19.8 5 2 1
16LeSean McCoy PHI RB 200 16.7 840 4.2 70.0 2 34 45 22.5 7 0 4
17Maurice Jones-Drew JAC RB 86 14.3 414 4.8 69.0 1 59T 21 24.4 3 1 1
18Shonn Greene NYJ RB 276 17.2 1,063 3.9 66.4 8 36 52 18.8 2 0 3
19DeMarco Murray DAL RB 161 16.1 663 4.1 66.3 4 48 39 24.2 5 1 2

This gives Murray 16.1 attempts per game and a total yardage of 663 yards.

 

[CCBoy]

2011

RkPlayerTeamPosAttAtt/GYdsAvgYds/GTDLng1st1st%20+40+FUM
1Maurice Jones-Drew JAC RB 343 21.4 1,606 4.7 100.4 8 56 75 21.9 9 3 3
2Arian Foster HOU RB 278 21.4 1,224 4.4 94.2 10 43 58 20.9 7 2 4
3Fred Jackson BUF RB 170 17.0 934 5.5 93.4 6 80T 40 23.5 10 3 2
4Darren McFadden OAK RB 113 16.1 614 5.4 87.7 4 70T 23 20.4 8 3 1
5LeSean McCoy PHI RB 273 18.2 1,309 4.8 87.3 17 60 84 30.8 14 2 1
6Ray Rice BAL RB 291 18.2 1,364 4.7 85.2 12 70T 52 17.9 9 5 2
7Michael Turner ATL RB 301 18.8 1,340 4.5 83.8 11 81T 62 20.6 11 4 3
8Matt Forte CHI RB 203 16.9 997 4.9 83.1 3 46 40 19.7 12 4 1
9Adrian Peterson MIN RB 208 17.3 970 4.7 80.8 12 54 49 23.6 7 3 1
10Marshawn Lynch SEA RB 285 19.0 1,204 4.2 80.3 12 47 63 22.1 4 2 3
11Willis McGahee DEN RB 249 16.6 1,199 4.8 79.9 4 60T 52 20.9 10 1 3
12Ryan Mathews SD RB 222 15.9 1,091 4.9 77.9 6 39 52 23.4 9 0 5
13Steven Jackson STL RB 260 17.3 1,145 4.4 76.3 5 47T 50 19.2 6 2 1
14Frank Gore SF RB 282 17.6 1,211 4.3 75.7 8 55 53 18.8 11 3 2
15Beanie Wells ARI RB 245 17.5 1,047 4.3 74.8 10 71 48 19.6 5 2 4
16Reggie Bush MIA RB 216 14.4 1,086 5.0 72.4 6 76T 40 18.5 7 1 4
17Cedric Benson CIN RB 273 18.2 1,067 3.9 71.1 6 42 53 19.4 4 1 5
18DeMarco Murray DAL RB 164 12.6 897 5.5 69.0 2 91T 41 25.0 7 2 1

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...xperience=&tabSeq=0&qualified=false&Submit=Go

This gives Murray 12.6 attempts per game and a total yardage of 897.

 

[Denim Chicken]

2011

RkPlayerTeamPosAttAtt/GYdsAvgYds/GTDLng1st1st%20+40+FUM
1Maurice Jones-Drew JAC RB 343 21.4 1,606 4.7 100.4 8 56 75 21.9 9 3 3
2Arian Foster HOU RB 278 21.4 1,224 4.4 94.2 10 43 58 20.9 7 2 4
3Fred Jackson BUF RB 170 17.0 934 5.5 93.4 6 80T 40 23.5 10 3 2
4Darren McFadden OAK RB 113 16.1 614 5.4 87.7 4 70T 23 20.4 8 3 1
5LeSean McCoy PHI RB 273 18.2 1,309 4.8 87.3 17 60 84 30.8 14 2 1
6Ray Rice BAL RB 291 18.2 1,364 4.7 85.2 12 70T 52 17.9 9 5 2
7Michael Turner ATL RB 301 18.8 1,340 4.5 83.8 11 81T 62 20.6 11 4 3
8Matt Forte CHI RB 203 16.9 997 4.9 83.1 3 46 40 19.7 12 4 1
9Adrian Peterson MIN RB 208 17.3 970 4.7 80.8 12 54 49 23.6 7 3 1
10Marshawn Lynch SEA RB 285 19.0 1,204 4.2 80.3 12 47 63 22.1 4 2 3
11Willis McGahee DEN RB 249 16.6 1,199 4.8 79.9 4 60T 52 20.9 10 1 3
12Ryan Mathews SD RB 222 15.9 1,091 4.9 77.9 6 39 52 23.4 9 0 5
13Steven Jackson STL RB 260 17.3 1,145 4.4 76.3 5 47T 50 19.2 6 2 1
14Frank Gore SF RB 282 17.6 1,211 4.3 75.7 8 55 53 18.8 11 3 2
15Beanie Wells ARI RB 245 17.5 1,047 4.3 74.8 10 71 48 19.6 5 2 4
16Reggie Bush MIA RB 216 14.4 1,086 5.0 72.4 6 76T 40 18.5 7 1 4
17Cedric Benson CIN RB 273 18.2 1,067 3.9 71.1 6 42 53 19.4 4 1 5
18DeMarco Murray DAL RB 164 12.6 897 5.5 69.0 2 91T 41 25.0 7 2 1

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...xperience=&tabSeq=0&qualified=false&Submit=Go

This gives Murray 12.6 attempts per game and a total yardage of 897.

Nice Job, CC.

 

[CCBoy]

Combined for Murray his totals were:

2013 - This gives Murray a 18,8 attempts per game and a total yardage of 1.257.

2012 - This gives Murray 16.1 attempts per game and a total yardage of 663 yards.

2011 - This gives Murray 12.6 attempts per game and a total yardage of 897.

 

[KJJ]

Easy fella'...you are being fed a point of reference similar to a legal team's support of cash flow represented by the owning firm...not description around actual topic on a non-agenda playing field.

 

[CCBoy]

Talk about a decoder ring lack of cereal box tops...that one was building from a troll war during the lock out. Go figure that in 'on the block' jargon.

Reference picture:
A plush legal office where team conferences center on guarantee of profit margin and control, rather than legal principal involved.

I guess it's easier to pick up on a High School teacher having sex with a student, for identifying what is involved. And the student filming it all before yelling wolf...now, combine both looks.


'Yo bro...wat is all dis shyte?'

 

[KJJ]

Talk about a decoder ring lack of cereal box tops...that one was building from a troll war during the lock out. Go figure that in 'on the block' jargon.

Reference picture:
A plush legal office where team conferences center on guarantee of profit margin and control, rather than legal principal involved.

I guess it's easier to pick up on a High School teacher having sex with a student, for identifying what is involved. And the student filming it all before yelling wolf...now, combine both looks.


'Yo bro...wat is all dis shyte?'

Now I see what you're saying.