Why are big contracts so hard to negotiate 2024?

[kskboys]

Always makes me laugh how it’s the players who are the greedy ones lol

There's monstrous difference between the greed of the NFL and the greed of the owners and the greed of individual players. It's not the same conversation.

 

[FVSTONE]

After pondering for months, like the rest of us, I still don’t understand why they don’t try to get out ahead of these contracts (Lamb, Prescott, Parsons) and get them signed. To us laymen, it doesn’t make sense. The question begs, “how could they be so ignorant?”. I mean they did with other players like Diggs and some others so why not with these guys? It’s an interesting question and one in which I have no answer. The easy answer you see here daily is, “they’re a bunch of idiots, etc.” But could it be more than that? The GB GM stated how hard these big contracts are and how they take time. Tua may sit out. Aiyuk still unsigned and others. Cowboys aren’t the only team having big contract settlement issues.

It’s going to take someone way over my pay grade who knows the inside and out of NFL contracts 2024 and the CBA. Is there anyone here?

The reason contracts take so long to iron out is because of the large chunks they take out of a team's Cap Space. Team brain trust have to figure out how to pay Peter and Paul once they back the truck up to Mary's house. The Cowboys have some serious issues on their hands with how to pay everyone and still stay competitive. What use does it make to sign 3 players to 3 outrageous contracts and not have enough Cap Space to be a destine for greatness in the playoffs. The Cowboys are going into the 2024 season with pretty much the same team that got punched in the mouth by the Packers and had no answers on how to respond.

 

[Rockport]

CeeDee and Dak’s agents are playing hardball with the Jones’s because they know it already worked for Dak, it just worked for Zach, it worked for Zeke, it worked for Amari, it worked for Dez…

Agents don’t do that to Veach because they know he doesn’t play like that. He’ll dump Tyreek, he’ll let Orlando Brown walk, he’ll keep his WR carousel going as to not interrupt the fang shui of the rest of the roster. He’ll pass over L’jarius Sneed if his asking price is even a little higher than they’re comfortable with.

The moment Haason Reddick wants a raise, Eagles make him a New York Jet. The cord is cut in Carson Wentz not two years into his deal. Evan Mathis tried to be a training camp holdout and got cut. Malcolm Jenkins tried to be one and ended up having to show up because he got nothing for it. Jalen doesn’t hold out, AJ Brown doesn’t hold out, Devonta Smith doesn’t hold out because their agents are conditioned to play nice with Howie. So they sign early for smaller AAV than they could have weaseled out of Jerry.

Bill Belichick was trailblazing on this for years. Jamie Collins wants a new contract? Get rid of him. Lawyer Milloy is heading into a contract year? Get rid of him. Richard Seymour wants an extension? Get rid of him. Vince Wilfork out-aging his deal? Get rid of him. Wes Welker? Randy Moss? Asante Samuel? Bye bye bye.

It is not a coincidence that all of this has, is, and will keep happening to Jerry. Because he lets it

Well, the Cowboys own the Eagirls so maybe they should’ve held on to some of those players.

 

[KingCorcoran]

All sound information by everyone.

It still doesn't excuse CeeDee sitting out. He's simply being greedy and likely wants to be highest paid WR in the NFL.

What do you suggest he sign for?

 

[Rockport]

The reason contracts take so long to iron out is because of the large chunks they take out of a team's Cap Space. Team brain trust have to figure out how to pay Peter and Paul once they back the truck up to Mary's house. The Cowboys have some serious issues on their hands with how to pay everyone and still stay competitive. What use does it make to sign 3 players to 3 outrageous contracts and not have enough Cap Space to be a destine for greatness in the playoffs. The Cowboys are going into the 2024 season with pretty much the same team that got punched in the mouth by the Packers and had no answers on how to respond.

The Cowboys are going into the season without Quinn. Zimmer is a big upgrade as far as having a defense that can stop the run. They drafted lineman on both sides of the ball. They signed Kendricks to bolster the LB corps which has Overshown coming back. The drafted a LB. Emmitt will help keep drives moving with his short yardage prowness. You are so wrong about this being the same team. And it’s all because you are blinded by your constant hate you display daily.

 

[aikemirv]

After pondering for months, like the rest of us, I still don’t understand why they don’t try to get out ahead of these contracts (Lamb, Prescott, Parsons) and get them signed. To us laymen, it doesn’t make sense. The question begs, “how could they be so ignorant?”. I mean they did with other players like Diggs and some others so why not with these guys? It’s an interesting question and one in which I have no answer. The easy answer you see here daily is, “they’re a bunch of idiots, etc.” But could it be more than that? The GB GM stated how hard these big contracts are and how they take time. Tua may sit out. Aiyuk still unsigned and others. Cowboys aren’t the only team having big contract settlement issues.

It’s going to take someone way over my pay grade who knows the inside and out of NFL contracts 2024 and the CBA. Is there anyone here?

Honestly- paying 60 million for Dak is a very tough call when he has underperformed in the playoffs

Paying 30 million for CeeDee when you are not sure about Dak gives you pause

Paying 30 million for Parsons when the staff uses him up by playoff time makes that hard to swallow as well when you could probably get 2 #1's for him.

Paying 160 million for 3 players when you are not winning the Super Bowl with the current makeup while may not be a terrible business decision by keeping them relevant, it is a terrible decision if you want to win the Super Bowl in the next few years!

 

[Rockport]

Honestly- paying 60 million for Dak is a very tough call when he has underperformed in the playoffs

Paying 30 million for CeeDee when you are not sure about Dak gives you pause

Paying 30 million for Parsons when the staff uses him up by playoff time makes that hard to swallow as well when you could probably get 2 #1's for him.

Paying 160 million for 3 players when you are not winning the Super Bowl with the current makeup while may not be a terrible business decision by keeping them relevant, it is a terrible decision if you want to win the Super Bowl in the next few years!

60+30+30=120 not 160.

 

[kskboys]

Honestly- paying 60 million for Dak is a very tough call when he has underperformed in the playoffs

Paying 30 million for CeeDee when you are not sure about Dak gives you pause

Paying 30 million for Parsons when the staff uses him up by playoff time makes that hard to swallow as well when you could probably get 2 #1's for him.

Paying 160 million for 3 players when you are not winning the Super Bowl with the current makeup while may not be a terrible business decision by keeping them relevant, it is a terrible decision if you want to win the Super Bowl in the next few years!

It's the percentage of the available money they are insisting on. 60 million is around 25 % of the cap. 30 mil is around 12%.

Add it up and you're spending around half the cap on 3 players. Pretty much isn't going to work.

Has Dak changed his stance on shorter contracts? If not, got to let him walk. The only reason the Chiefs were able to pay Chris Jones and Kelce is because Mahomes signed a long term deal which helps his team remain in super bowl contention. If he'd have insisted on that short term(4 yrs) crapp that Dak did, the Chiefs don't win the last 2 super bowls. What Dak is doing is making his own personal greed over winning, and that's why I'm not happy w/ him. If that 4 yr deal had been a 6 yr deal as the Cowboys wanted, we'd be in super bowl contention.

 

[blueblood70]

The Cowboys are going into the season without Quinn. Zimmer is a big upgrade as far as having a defense that can stop the run. They drafted lineman on both sides of the ball. They signed Kendricks to bolster the LB corps which has Overshown coming back. The drafted a LB. Emmitt will help keep drives moving with his short yardage prowness. You are so wrong about this being the same team. And it’s all because you are blinded by your constant hate you display daily.

LOL you mean Zeke ) Emmitt ?

 

[Rockport]

LOL you mean Zeke ) Emmitt ?

I had flashbacks!

 

[Rockport]

It's the percentage of the available money they are insisting on. 60 million is around 25 % of the cap. 30 mil is around 12%.

Add it up and you're spending around half the cap on 3 players. Pretty much isn't going to work.

Has Dak changed his stance on shorter contracts? If not, got to let him walk. The only reason the Chiefs were able to pay Chris Jones and Kelce is because Mahomes signed a long term deal which helps his team remain in super bowl contention. If he'd have insisted on that short term(4 yrs) crapp that Dak did, the Chiefs don't win the last 2 super bowls. What Dak is doing is making his own personal greed over winning, and that's why I'm not happy w/ him. If that 4 yr deal had been a 6 yr deal as the Cowboys wanted, we'd be in super bowl contention.

Where did you get that Dak was demanding $60 mill per?

 

[kskboys]

The Cowboys are going into the season without Quinn. Zimmer is a big upgrade as far as having a defense that can stop the run. They drafted lineman on both sides of the ball. They signed Kendricks to bolster the LB corps which has Overshown coming back. The drafted a LB. Emmitt will help keep drives moving with his short yardage prowness. You are so wrong about this being the same team. And it’s all because you are blinded by your constant hate you display daily.

You should really read the post you are responding to in order to not look foolish w/ a response that in no way relates to the quoted post.

You know, your post would've been OK if you have been able to refrain from personally insulting.

 

[kskboys]

Where did you get that Dak was demanding $60 mill per?

Why did you focus on the amount instead of the gist of the post?

 

[CWR]

They aren't. The problem is the Jones clan thinks they are the smartest people in the room.

That's the majority of all our issues. They are arrogant and misguided. It's why we constantly blow 2nd round picks and why we don't participate in FA. They believe they have the "special sauce" despite years of demonstrating otherwise.

 

[Rockport]

You should really read the post you are responding to in order to not look foolish w/ a response that in no way relates to the quoted post.

You know, your post would've been OK if you have been able to refrain from personally insulting.

I get it that you haters hate me. I consider it a badge of honor.

 

[Stash]

 

[KJJ]

We’re dealing with a salary cap and you have a lot of top players that want to reset the market at their position. Salaries are skyrocketing at QB and WR. The money for edge rushers is going way up. The three players we’re looking to re-sign make the most money of any positions. We’re not going be able to keep all three if it’s going to take resetting the market to re-sign them. Parsons could be looking for close to $40 million. That was top QB money just a few years ago. That makes for a tough negotiation when you have three players looking for top dollar and one of them is your franchise QB.

 

[Rockport]

Why did you focus on the amount instead of the gist of the post?

Because his amount was incorrect. Blinded by hate.

 

[Rockport]

We’re dealing with a salary cap and you have a lot of top players that want to reset the market at their position. Salaries are skyrocketing at QB and WR. The money for edge rushers is going way up. The three players we’re looking to re-sign make the most money of any positions. We’re not going be able to keep all three if it’s going to take resetting the market to re-sign them. Parsons could be looking for close to $40 million. That was top QB money just a few years ago. That makes for a tough negotiation when you have three players looking for huge money and one of them is your franchise QB.

It’s a good problem to have.

 

[Vtwin]

I get it that you haters hate me. I consider it a badge of honor.

For the record, this Hater loves you. You are very entertaining.