Why are people blaming Kellen Moore for the deep throw on 3rd?

[TheHerd]

I don't fault throwing on third down. We convert the first down, the game is over. But the deep pass?
I do agree with @NoLuv4Jerry that we should have given Dak some options that involved either taking the easy throw or taking the sack to let the clock keep running and making the Jags burn their timeouts.
Smart coaches plan for such scenarios.

If the deep ball was the primary call, throw it only if you foooll them and it's wode open. Otherwise either check it down or run and force the timeout. Dak has to understand that as a veteran. Another poor game Management decision by everyone. It's our way. And why we'll never win anything important

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

At that point in the game, the head coach needs to order the O.C. to run it or throw a screen.

The odds of a long bomb working were non existent.

Again....Brown running deep could have been a decoy or dummy route....I am sure other people were the primary on that play...Dak chose to throw it to Brown....Kellen Moore did not.

 

[XXLMike]

If you were going to throw on that series, do it on 2md down and make sure it's a high percentage throw. Not that junk.

100^%%!
How come nobody? McCarthy in the post game

 

[Pevansjr]

I don't fault throwing on third down. We convert the first down, the game is over. But the deep pass?
I do agree with @NoLuv4Jerry that we should have given Dak some options that involved either taking the easy throw or taking the sack to let the clock keep running and making the Jags burn their timeouts.
Smart coaches plan for such scenarios.

I agree, I've got no issue with passing, but no way in he'll I'm throwing a deep pass like that. Something short and higher percentage odds that gives you a chance to make the first and win the game or at worst they have to burn their last time out.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

If the deep ball was the primary call, throw it only if you foooll them and it's wode open. Otherwise either check it down or run and force the timeout. Dak has to understand that as a veteran. Another poor game Management decision by everyone. It's our way. And why we'll never win anything important

^^^^THIS!!!!!!!! Dak has to give himself up if nothing else was open....he has been in the league long enough to know this.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Anybody blaming Kellen shouldnt be taken seriously


This defense was getting gashed all second-half. Running the ball wouldve conceded the drive and put a unit back on the field that couldnt stop a nosebleed.

To blame the OC for trusting his $40m QB to win the game there is asinine…

 

[catiii]

Dak has neither the skill nor ability to throw deep. Any deep pass by Deek a nab d it's can INT.
How did we get stuck with this $40 mil Dreck?

A bunch of clowns on this forum and two drunken hillbilly billionaires all said PAY THE MAN. LOL

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Anybody blaming Kellen shouldnt be taken seriously


This defense was getting gashed all second-half. Running the ball wouldve conceded the drive and put a unit back on the field that couldnt stop a nosebleed.

To blame the OC for trusting his $40m QB to win the game there is asinine…

Running the ball would have forced the Jaguars to burn their 3rd timeout. Which means on that last pass in regulation they would have had no way to stop the clock and kick the 48 yard field goal that sent the game to overtime.

Hindsight is always 20-20 but calling a deep pass there is beyond dumb. Even a short pass with a higher chance of being completed would have made more sense. There is a time and a place to be aggressive and today the coaches had their heads up their collective behinds.

 

[TheHerd]

It was a dumb playcall. They lined up in an empty formation so no threat of a run at all...the defense saw it and knew it was an all-out pass. Jags drop 6 in coverage vs. 3 receivers so shocker...no one is open, especially when all of the WRs are running go routes. Just comedy. This team is dumb.

The play is at the 12:13 mark

So after watching that I do blame Moore. Everyone went deep. That's right out of the Garrett playbook. Dumb and dumber.

 

[Cowboys0988]

I cannot wait for the All 22 to come out. Yes Noah Brown went deep.....BUT.....BUT....Dak threw it to him. Maybe the plan was for him to go deep to take the Safety with him this opening the middle up for something else? All I know is....I highly doubt Noah Brown was the primary receiver on that play. If none of the action was open on the other side....perhaps Dak should have just given himself up to take a sack and force them to use a timeout. But Kellen Moore did not throw that ball deep....Dak did. Heck, even if none of the other wide receivers had created enough separation and Dak did not want to risk throwing an interception....he still could have given himself up and taken a sack to force the Jags to use their TO.

And this is not a bash Dak thread or a bash Kellen Moore thread....this is just a response to so many upset with the play call.

Cause they refuse to put the blame on the one person that made the decision then threw the ball. Its never the QB.. its always the coaches. Imagine Dak being so bad, the OC calls the plays and tells Dak which receiver hes going to throw it to that play. . lol

First few years i was a Huge Dak fan....great dude.. unfortunately average QB.. Its gonna take a few more years for some folks to realize what Dak is..half will, the other half will die thinking Dak is top 10 or even a top 5 QB. How does 20 TDs 15 INTs sound for a final 2022 season stat?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

A bunch of clowns on this forum and two drunken hillbilly billionaires all said PAY THE MAN. LOL

Exactly.

 

[75boyz]

This is the frustrating aspect in determining who is the real problem? Is it Dak or is it KM? On any given pass play if 3 receivers go out and a TE, it's not KM's fault if Dak throws the ball to the guy who is most covered or in the worst position to make a play. It's not if the play coming in from the sideline is..."OK Dak. We are going to send CD here, and Gallup here, and Schultz there, but you MUST throw the football to Brown because I say so."

Yup, great post.
I been harping on it for a while.

QB decision making.
Stop/pause the tape.
Look at all options of open and covered
pass catchers.

Then decide if the pass that was thrown was the right decision.

Not the route run by the receiver.
Not the design of the route by the OC.
Not the pre determined play call especially if that receiver was covered.

Was the decision to throw that particular pass the right decision?
Proper QB decision making is a vital part of a QB's ability to lead his team to success.
There have been many QB decision making failures made this year.
Or you can just go along with the rest of the this year's scapegoat crowd.
And say It's Kellen's fault.

 

[IceStar-D7]

I'm blaming him because that's not your best pass option. I would of preferred a deep post or just a go route to the middle. That was a pass for Gallup not Brown.

 

[tcc0808]

I don't fault throwing on third down. We convert the first down, the game is over. But the deep pass?
I do agree with @NoLuv4Jerry that we should have given Dak some options that involved either taking the easy throw or taking the sack to let the clock keep running and making the Jags burn their timeouts.
Smart coaches plan for such scenarios.

I agree. I think when the film is reviewed we'll see wide open guys in the middle of the field. QB took a shot to win the game and it backfired. There were other options open.

 

[IceStar-D7]

A bunch of clowns on this forum and two drunken hillbilly billionaires all said PAY THE MAN. LOL

At this point. What's your plan "B"? You say Rush we all know you're not serious.

 

[IceStar-D7]

I agree. I think when the film is reviewed we'll see wide open guys in the middle of the field. QB took a shot to win the game and it backfired. There were other options open.

Unfortunately for your logic. Dak was running for his life. So again! Oline of played better at that moment maybe he has time to find someone else.

 

[Hoofbite]

Because he calls the plays? Is it that hard to figure out?

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

They ran a mass protection three go-routs. They were trying to catch them off guard. But the time to catch them off guard is on second down. You going to rub out and get someone open easily.

 

[Doomsday]

The playcalling on that entire series was trash. Shotgun on 1st down when they know you have to run the ball to eat their timeouts?

Get under center with 3 TEs and pound the damn rock.

 

[tcc0808]

Unfortunately for your logic. Dak was running for his life. So again! Oline of played better at that moment maybe he has time to find someone else.

Fair point. To counter that, he should also be aware enough to keep running to keep the clock running vs taking a low percentage throw down the field. All in all it was a bad play all around, but he is the one with the ball in his hands 70 times a game and is the highest paid player on the team - with that comes higher expectations. Today he failed to meet them.