Why are people blaming Kellen Moore for the deep throw on 3rd?

[RonnieT24]

Moore sent all 3 wrs deep and left Dak nothing underneath. It was a bad play call. Moore explained in a presser that he was going for the "kill shot".

So this jackasss was playing Madden ... That explains a lot..

 

[Doomsday]

3 go routes with no check-down receiver to ensure they had to use their last timeout if there was nothing open downfield.

No way can anyone convince that was their best chance to pick up the first down to end the game.

They didn't need a "kill shot", they needed a first down or to force them to use a TO, to not accomplish either one is unforgivable. A sack would have been better than that.

 

[Cowboys5217]

So this jackasss was playing Madden ... That explains a lot..

Madden players are min-maxers which is all about the math. Madden players would make the right call in that situation.

 

[nightrain]

I cannot wait for the All 22 to come out. Yes Noah Brown went deep.....BUT.....BUT....Dak threw it to him. Maybe the plan was for him to go deep to take the Safety with him thus opening the middle up for something else? All I know is....I highly doubt Noah Brown was the primary receiver on that play. If none of the action was open on the other side....perhaps Dak should have just given himself up to take a sack and force them to use a timeout. But Kellen Moore did not throw that ball deep....Dak did. Heck, even if none of the other wide receivers had created enough separation and Dak did not want to risk throwing an interception....he still could have given himself up and taken a sack to force the Jags to use their TO.

And this is not a bash Dak thread or a bash Kellen Moore thread....this is just a response to so many upset with the play call.

He was single covered, probably like all game. He was going to be the obvious look. The play should never have been called in that situation. Any throw should have been backed by a high percentage completion rate. Situational football separates the contenders from the pretenders. The Cowboy are looking like the latter

 

[Cmac]

If Brown makes the catch......everything is a moot point.

 

[stinkface]

I cannot wait for the All 22 to come out. Yes Noah Brown went deep.....BUT.....BUT....Dak threw it to him. Maybe the plan was for him to go deep to take the Safety with him thus opening the middle up for something else? All I know is....I highly doubt Noah Brown was the primary receiver on that play. If none of the action was open on the other side....perhaps Dak should have just given himself up to take a sack and force them to use a timeout. But Kellen Moore did not throw that ball deep....Dak did. Heck, even if none of the other wide receivers had created enough separation and Dak did not want to risk throwing an interception....he still could have given himself up and taken a sack to force the Jags to use their TO.

And this is not a bash Dak thread or a bash Kellen Moore thread....this is just a response to so many upset with the play call.

Heavyweight Mike said they were playing for the win. Certainly if that's the theory/justification/CYA, that's fine, but then try to actually throw the ball where it requires an absolute circus catch right against the sideline.

 

[Runwildboys]

It was a good play, that got Brown open, and Dak threw a good pass. Yes, there should have been a receiver (probably a TE) midfield, but if Brown hadn't dropped it, the game was all but over...in our favor.

 

[BrassCowboy]

I cannot wait for the All 22 to come out. Yes Noah Brown went deep.....BUT.....BUT....Dak threw it to him. Maybe the plan was for him to go deep to take the Safety with him thus opening the middle up for something else? All I know is....I highly doubt Noah Brown was the primary receiver on that play. If none of the action was open on the other side....perhaps Dak should have just given himself up to take a sack and force them to use a timeout. But Kellen Moore did not throw that ball deep....Dak did. Heck, even if none of the other wide receivers had created enough separation and Dak did not want to risk throwing an interception....he still could have given himself up and taken a sack to force the Jags to use their TO.

And this is not a bash Dak thread or a bash Kellen Moore thread....this is just a response to so many upset with the play call.

well its the fact that this play should of been a run play. If they did, game would be over and Cowboys would of won plain and simple. was just a dumb call. At the worst, should of been "Dak, if you see an easy short 5 yard for sure throw and catch, go for it, but if not don't throw it - RUN" causing time to run and forcing use of last timeout. Team intelligence just baffles me sometimes

 

[Creeper]

I cannot wait for the All 22 to come out. Yes Noah Brown went deep.....BUT.....BUT....Dak threw it to him. Maybe the plan was for him to go deep to take the Safety with him thus opening the middle up for something else? All I know is....I highly doubt Noah Brown was the primary receiver on that play. If none of the action was open on the other side....perhaps Dak should have just given himself up to take a sack and force them to use a timeout. But Kellen Moore did not throw that ball deep....Dak did. Heck, even if none of the other wide receivers had created enough separation and Dak did not want to risk throwing an interception....he still could have given himself up and taken a sack to force the Jags to use their TO.

And this is not a bash Dak thread or a bash Kellen Moore thread....this is just a response to so many upset with the play call.

I want to see the all-22 as well. Were there receivers underneath? I also agree Dak did not have to throw that pass. It was a dumb decision in that situation. Unless Brown was wide open then tuck it and run. Even if Dak doesn't get the first down he forces Jacksonville to use their last time out. Plus with the time out they could get organized better for the punt. Maybe Anger hits one inside the 10.

I would have preferred if they just and it three time up the middle.

 

[khiladi]

I am permanently stuck in this mindset you describe here of Dak and his decision making.

Dak is not a smart QB. He can't process the field to save his life.

 

[Cowboys5217]

If Brown makes the catch......everything is a moot point.

No it isn't. That doesn't change the fact that a stupid call was made.

The same stupid decision was made in the first Giants game, but the defense bailed us out. I pointed out the problem with that play call at the time, and that you can't be that dumb again as it could cost you a game. Well, here we are.

 

[nalam]

should have been a run play. Jaguars got to keep a timeout and used it to force the game to OT.

Correct , either run play or sure screen ( if we can execute , LOL) where in the ball is caught and the carrier is tackled in bound and to stop the clock Jags will need the timeout.

 

[BigD5]

I cannot wait for the All 22 to come out. Yes Noah Brown went deep.....BUT.....BUT....Dak threw it to him. Maybe the plan was for him to go deep to take the Safety with him thus opening the middle up for something else? All I know is....I highly doubt Noah Brown was the primary receiver on that play. If none of the action was open on the other side....perhaps Dak should have just given himself up to take a sack and force them to use a timeout. But Kellen Moore did not throw that ball deep....Dak did. Heck, even if none of the other wide receivers had created enough separation and Dak did not want to risk throwing an interception....he still could have given himself up and taken a sack to force the Jags to use their TO.

And this is not a bash Dak thread or a bash Kellen Moore thread....this is just a response to so many upset with the play call.

Because it was D U M B

Only a complete moron would call that play. A pass is fine. A high percentage pass like a week screen i.e.

But all go? Triple covered CD. Gallup covered like a blanket on a go route. And why is Noah brown even on the field? Awful awful awful play design and call

 

[khiladi]

Now that I look at it, Lamb seems to be his first read.

Schlultz is pulled in to draw the defender, but that defender shows at the line and drops back and covers Lamb as well who has 3 people around him when all is said and dome. So then he fires to Brown.

 

[Creeper]

Sorry, but no.. 12:13.. The ball was underthrown and had no shot at being caught, as it was basically out of bounds and Brown had ZERO chance of getting his feet down, as his body landed first outside.

Not sure if Dak audibles out the play, but Schultz drops in to show block. Jaguars defender comes to the line to show he's going to play the run, but drops back. Other rushers drops and covers if Schultz leaks.

There was nobody covering Schultz when he originally lines up..

But again, absolutely horrible QB play, since he's basically looking his whole time at the left side of the snap, not even bothering to look right, even though he has a WR on that side. And he once again is staring down his read the whole time.

After looking at it a few times it looks like it Dak made a good throw in bounds, Brown catches that ball for a 1st down and the game. Still don't like the call though. Also on that play, the Jags #2 looks to be taunting Brown of the Cowboys bench. The ref is watching as the guy is hopping up along the Cowboys sideline and appears to be saying something to the bench. That taunting penalty would have given Dallas a fresh set of downs and then they game is over.

But why is no one talking about the Jags 2nd and 10 play where Engram dragged Kearse out of bounds? Look where he catches the football. He is about 2 yards outside the hash marks. The inside of the hash marks are 70' 9" from the sidelines. So basically Kearse had 20 yards to bring Engram down before he got out of bounds to stop the clock. Anthony Barr was the next closest Cowboys player and he got their way too late. This play was the difference in the game because that that point, assume Engrams is tackled in bounds, the Jags have to use their last time out with the ball at the Cowboys 49 with only 12 seconds left. Now the Jags have to get about 15 yards in 12 seconds and then stop the clock with a spike. Not enough time.

And also, there is the 3rd and 3 play that came next. The Cowboys blitzed and Zay Jones was wide open on the Cowboys 36 yard line. He was covered or not covered by Diggs. He cuts away from Diggs and gets enough hard to make t a 48 yard FG with just 6 seconds left on the clock.

As I have been saying, the last 1:28 of the game in regulation time, was a series of bad plays and bad luck for Dallas. Any one thing goes right for them and they win. The Noah Brown drop, and the 3rd down bomb that stopped the clock were just two miscues of many.

 

[Whirlwin]

What I didn’t like, was the three wide receiver, set to the right, and then run the ball three times

 

[Cowfan75]

Moore is garbage. Forget that deep throw. How about the two give-up plays before that throw? There was never a real intention of moving the ball. Except someone was dumb enough to not at least make them use that last timeout. It's either complete stupidity or sabotage.

 

[75boyz]

I want to see the all-22 as well. Were there receivers underneath? I also agree Dak did not have to throw that pass. It was a dumb decision in that situation. Unless Brown was wide open then tuck it and run. Even if Dak doesn't get the first down he forces Jacksonville to use their last time out. Plus with the time out they could get organized better for the punt. Maybe Anger hits one inside the 10.

I would have preferred if they just and it three time up the middle.

It is becoming a pattern that the All 22 with or without Warner supplying feedback illustrates lots of poor decision making that ultimately comes back to the guy with the ball in his hand in realtime.

Not the route run.
Not the route design.
REGARDLESS of the play called.

When ya stop the film and look at all the pass catcher options and the ball is still in Dak's hands...
Again for the umpteenth time.
If ya still hafta ask WHY was THAT throw made in the first place?
It has NOTHING to do with the OC.
Period.

These OC blamers are a funny group this year.

Apologies, as this is not personally directed towards you but I feel the need to keep repeating this truth over and over.
And will continue to do so.

The funniest thing in all of this is I am not even a Moore fan boy, lol!

 

[JD_KaPow]

He wasn't the primary, it was a dumb choice by Prescott. He cost us the game with that throw and that awful INT at our own 25-30 yard line

Where would you prefer Dak went with the ball?

 

[Playmaker3128]

Dumbest thing ever…. You run some routes to “get the win”. Not go for the killshot. Moore is trying to be smarter than everyone.

second option on that play you do some sort of rollout. Nothing wide open dak slides in bounds.

You either secure the win with a first down or make the team use that last timeout…it isn’t rocket science.