Why Are People Not Livid About Mara's Penalty?

[Chocolate Lab]

You are whining in the here and now.

mel·o·dra·mat·ic
/ˌmelədrəˈmatik/

Of or relating to melodrama.
Characteristic of melodrama, esp. in being exaggerated, sensationalized, or overemotional.

a fact is something along the lines of Demarcus Ware ran a 4.56 at the 2005 combine. All you are doing is trying to appeal to peoples emotion such as to get people to agree with your premise

Oh the irony.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

there were other teams that did EXACTLY what the Boys and Skins did. and did not get penalized. You might want to think about that

Which teams?

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Right. All that penalty did was make a bad situation worse. It wasn't the cause of this issue.

But hey, it makes for a good spin job.

I hate to agree with you, but this is very true.

I am not as ticked about our current cap status as many are. I am glad we aren't making huge signings that normally don't live up to the hype. I'm hoping for health, a couple of decent starters out of the draft and some depth, and seeing what this team can do.

I think we can win the division with just a few upgrades. And if they don't, there is no good reason not to start the rebuild next year with a whole new crew.

BTW, if we wanted instant cap room, just cut Tony....it frees up 16m or whatever, makes him a free agent and allows us to learn what his market value is.

Is there any reason we couldn't do that?

 

[Doomsday101]

For the last week, every thread has been mired in a discussion about how the Joneses suck at managing the cap and they should fire themselves because they have failed us and we should quit and blow up the team and how we are doomed to failure blah blah blah.

Not a peep about the penalty we incurred around this time last year for not breaking any rules. Remember that?

What I do not get is why is their no ire about John Mara. Why not guys? I think that $10m in extra cap room would look mighty nice right about now.

Thoughts?

For me because there is nothing that can be done about it. It is done it is over and we move forward. I don't like it but it is what it is and I would rather see the Cowboys focused on what they have in front of them not what is behind them

 

[burmafrd]

Which teams?

Oakland and NO I think - two others were mentioned but not penalized. And there has been those that pointed out other contracts by other teams that are virually identical to Austins.

 

[Soth]

I think that penalty was completely unfair and I am still "livid" about it.

The problem is that Jerry does not seem bothered by it, and he is not fighting it. So if Jerry does not care, then what are we supposed to do? If I was Jerry I would have fought this to the end.

There was no cap that year and the contracts were approved, that should be the end of the story.

 

[vicjagger]

And the dumb blonde asks: "Why are we blaming this on John Mara?"

 

[Doomsay]

If we had $10m in cap space I am sorry but your whining would not have any merit whatsoever. We both know you have little to no knowledge of the accounting stance or adjustments that can or cannot be made in cap years to come so quit fronting. You are whining in the here and now.

$10m in cap space without that penalty is an objective truth. 'Mismanagement' and other cliches are simplifications so you can point a finger. If you spoke about specifics regarding the team it owuld be the first time.

The objective truth is that Jerry did little or nothing to challenge it. If it was such an injustice (not saying that it wasn't) why has he not been more proactive on an issue which is clearly hurting the team's prospects?

 

[Idgit]

The objective truth is that Jerry did little or nothing to challenge it. If it was such an injustice (not saying that it wasn't) why has he not been more proactive on an issue which is clearly hurting the team's prospects?

This is one where he's taking his medicine for the good of the league because his obligation as an owner is in conflict with his obligation as a GM.

 

[Doomsday101]

This is one where he's taking his medicine for the good of the league because his obligation as an owner is in conflict with his obligation as a GM.

True, he could win the battle and lose the war.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Oakland and NO I think - two others were mentioned but not penalized. And there has been those that pointed out other contracts by other teams that are virually identical to Austins.

Thanks for that. While I can't speak to the fairness of the punishment (I am simply not privy to such things), I know that Oakland and New Orleans were not given the extra 1.6 million of additional cap space that other teams received as a result of the Dallas and Washington Penalties. My assumption is that their violations were deemed as being lessor than that of Dallas and Washington and that the 1.6 million exclusion was considered punishment enough.

I think I had heard Green Bay being mentioned at one time as well, but I am honestly not sure of what people felt their violations were.

 

[Doomsay]

This is one where he's taking his medicine for the good of the league because his obligation as an owner is in conflict with his obligation as a GM.

He has a lot of conflicts with his obligation to be an effective GM, I'll grant you that, but not sticking up for an injustice delivered against his team shouldn't be one of them, IMO.

 

[visionary]

This is one where he's taking his medicine for the good of the league because his obligation as an owner is in conflict with his obligation as a GM.

"Cop-out" alert

 

[cowboysooner]

Thanks for that. While I can't speak to the fairness of the punishment (I am simply not privy to such things), I know that Oakland and New Orleans were not given the extra 1.6 million of additional cap space that other teams received as a result of the Dallas and Washington Penalties. My assumption is that their violations were deemed as being lessor than that of Dallas and Washington and that the 1.6 million exclusion was considered punishment enough.

I think I had heard Green Bay being mentioned at one time as well, but I am honestly not sure of what people felt their violations were.

Greenbay had several contracts including Nick Collins that were pretty questionable.

Again, it is the guys that got away with dead money dumped into the uncapped year because I guess it would be "too hard" to figure out that has me more chapped than the penalty itself. It is COMPLETELY arbitrary use, timing and enforcement of the salary cap.

With the rollover, the teams that bottomed out Tampa, Miami, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Jaxonville have a huge advantage going forward.

 

[Idgit]

"Cop-out" alert

In what universe is saying Jerry's got a conflict of interest a cop out? I know I'm catnip for you, but my post wasn't even a value judgement one way or another in terms of how the situation was handled. It was a matter-of-fact statement about Jerry having a conflict of interest because he holds two positions in the organization.

You might consider saving your knee-jerk criticism for a post in some thread where I have something positive to say about this team you love. Then it will make a lot more sense when you react negatively to the suggestion that not everything is a disaster. Of course, it's your call, though.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Oh the irony.

I'm not the one claiming that what I am saying is fact. If I had something along the lines of "the fact is your whining in the here and now" then sure. I never claimed to be above melodrama. I will say that I try to be above misrepresenting myself.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So people say it's Jerry's fault for not going further than arbitration and forgoing federal court right? Jerry should have sued the NFL?

 

[5Stars]

So people say it's Jerry's fault for not going further than arbitration and forgoing federal court right? Jerry should have sued the NFL?

I have no idea what is in Jerry's head, but, that cap money would be a blessing right now!

Could you imagine what this team could do with an extra 10 mil?

I used to hold the most contempt against the eagles and the Commanders, but since this happened I absolutely loath the Giants!!

It was sweet going up there and beating those fools on opening day after they won the SB.

I hope Mara and his cronies come down with an STD!!