Why are we always in the shotgun?

[ConstantReboot]

Ive shaken my head at this so much the past 5 plus years and I always forget to bring it up on here. I was watching NFL play book and Shaun Ohara asked the same question. What is Garrett's problem seriously? Teams KNOW 95 percent of the time it's a pass. Just like I said week 1, Dallas takes the joy out of watching football because they are so incompetent with basic strategy.


Ill be awaiting the first (go be a fan of another team) response.

Vintage Jason Garrett. I don't know how this guy ever became a coach or even has a job to do anything with coaching. He has certainly has been Jerry's worst decision by far.

I remember we used to run often just as much as we passed. We used a lot of play action and had a more unpredictable offense. Now its nothing more than pass, pass, pass in shotgun formation. I don't hate Garrett but I hate his coaching style and should not have been coach of this team.

 

[JD_KaPow]

It's not about using it alot.

We shouldn't be in shotgun unless its third and long or in a two minute drill.

Anyway, you're absolutely right, because it's the 1970s and that's the way we play football today.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Ill come back to this thread after Sunday. Ill count Dow many times we pass out of shotgun on first and second down as opposed to draw plays since some of you are acting like I'm making stuff up.

Why would you do that when Bob Sturm publishes those numbers every week?

Like last week: we were in shotgun all of 38% of the time. We ran 18 shotgun plays on 1st and 2nd down and ran on 5 of them, or 28%.

 

[waving monkey]

Vintage Jason Garrett. I don't know how this guy ever became a coach or even has a job to do anything with coaching. He has certainly has been Jerry's worst decision by far.

I remember we used to run often just as much as we passed. We used a lot of play action and had a more unpredictable offense. Now its nothing more than pass, pass, pass in shotgun formation. I don't hate Garrett but I hate his coaching style and should not have been coach of this team.

other then Jimmy Johnson Garrett has been his best decision by far. If you can't see the improvement by leaps this year I dont know what to tell you.
We're running the ball this year because we can. The last four years because we couldn't.The latter half of last year we might could have run it more but was
that Romo audible-ing out of called plays. This team is going play off and all I hear is complaints for no founded reason. Just whining

 

[big dog cowboy]

Why are we always in the shotgun?

Like last week: we were in shotgun all of 38% of the time. We ran 18 shotgun plays on 1st and 2nd down and ran on 5 of them, or 28%.

That's going to leave a mark.

 

[Hoofbite]

Dallas is actually down in terms of shotgun snaps. Pretty sure it was in Sturms latest article.

Historically Dallas has used shotgun a lot and as Sturm has also pointed out Dallas (and the league in general) passes a hell of a lot out of the shotgun.

This year Dallas is at 51% from the shotgun, splitting the middle with 1 game at either end of the spectrum. Last year it was almost 60%.

The team overutilized the shotgun in years past. That isn't the case this year so far.

 

[TheCount]

the delay draw from shotgun always worked well for us. shotgun doesnt always mean pass

I like how the draw is coming back in style on the forum now, I remember when a lot of people hated it - and for good reason.

 

[Clove]

I just hate when Dallas offense waits til the last second possible to snap the ball.

This, and I hate when we go into an empty set. That set says pass no matter what. Why not leave some doubt whether or not you're going to pass or run, even if you do pass?

 

[ConstantReboot]

other then Jimmy Johnson Garrett has been his best decision by far. If you can't see the improvement by leaps this year I dont know what to tell you.
We're running the ball this year because we can. The last four years because we couldn't.The latter half of last year we might could have run it more but was
that Romo audible-ing out of called plays. This team is going play off and all I hear is complaints for no founded reason. Just whining

Sorry but I'm not drinking that koolaid. If you think that 8-8 is awesome than I have some real estate on the moon that I'd like to sell you.

Were the Dallas Cowboys and were not supposed to be average. Were supposed to be a winning tradition. However, with Garrett were not. We have actually regressed throughout the years because Garrett just doesn't know how to win the games that count and have actually lost games because of his blunders. I don't know about you but a head coach for the Dallas Cowboys aren't supposed to make the same blunders over and over. But Garrett does.

As for the statement that were running the ball is that a joke? Were running the ball because Garrett is no longer calling the plays. Linehan knows that our strength is running and Romo hasn't been effective. If Garrett had it his way he'll be passing the ball all the time. Last year, we lost to Green Bay because we didn't run the ball. I don't know about you but Im actually happy Garrett is not calling the plays and we have someone that knows what his doing for once.

I like your optimism though that were going to the playoffs. But think about....Garrett no longer calls the plays. Doesn't call the defense. Yet were better as what you stated. Were better in some ways despite Garrett. Not because of him.

 

[Bullflop]

The shotgun has been a staple of the Cowboys' offense for a long time now. I don't see it changing anytime soon. It allows the QB extra time to survey the defense and Murray handles himself well within that scheme.

 

[arglebargle]

Sorry but I'm not drinking that koolaid. If you think that 8-8 is awesome than I have some real estate on the moon that I'd like to sell you.

Were the Dallas Cowboys and were not supposed to be average. Were supposed to be a winning tradition. However, with Garrett were not. We have actually regressed throughout the years because Garrett just doesn't know how to win the games that count and have actually lost games because of his blunders. I don't know about you but a head coach for the Dallas Cowboys aren't supposed to make the same blunders over and over. But Garrett does.

As for the statement that were running the ball is that a joke? Were running the ball because Garrett is no longer calling the plays. Linehan knows that our strength is running and Romo hasn't been effective. If Garrett had it his way he'll be passing the ball all the time. Last year, we lost to Green Bay because we didn't run the ball. I don't know about you but Im actually happy Garrett is not calling the plays and we have someone that knows what his doing for once.

I like your optimism though that were going to the playoffs. But think about....Garrett no longer calls the plays. Doesn't call the defense. Yet were better as what you stated. Were better in some ways despite Garrett. Not because of him.

Kind of conveniant to claim that Linehan's playcalling work cuts Garret out of the picture, but having Callahan do it last year doesn't. We are running well, in part, because we have been beefing up our offensive line, year by year. Do you really think that that is an old style Jerry Jones move?

 

[ConstantReboot]

Kind of conveniant to claim that Linehan's playcalling work cuts Garret out of the picture, but having Callahan do it last year doesn't. We are running well, in part, because we have been beefing up our offensive line, year by year. Do you really think that that is an old style Jerry Jones move?

Guess what? We were running pretty well last year as well with Murray during the Green Bay game. Yet Garrett decides that he wants to pass and we lost. We lose about 2-3 games because of Garrett's blunders during the waning moments each and every year. He doesn't provide us with that advantages like other coaches do. Thus we are mired in mediocrity. Is 8-8 proof enough for you? Heck, if Garrett was such as good coach why did Jerry take playcalling duties away from him?

Lastly, I don't know why people are giving credit to Garrett for building this oline. Last I heard it was Jerry who drafted Ty Smith and Frederick. Sure maybe Garrett had a say. But I doubt it since he was busy trying to sell us that Costa was an all pro waiting to happen.

 

[jobberone]

The shotgun has been around a long time. Even so its use has gone up over time including the last ten years.

Total offensive plays are up about 2.5% the last ten plus years. However, yardage is up a little over 9%, scoring has increased a tad bit more or 9.23% and TDs are up 9.3%. That's a good bit more scoring from those extra plays which in itself is up more than a little.

YPC is up a modest .1 to 4.3 but YPA is now averaging over 6.2 vs 5.8 ten years ago. So you can see why teams are passing the ball more.

So teams are running less but gaining almost the same yardage meanwhile passing yards and TDs increased 15%. And people want to run the ball more?! I hope I never hear that UNLESS people are talking about running the ball more efficiently WHEN NECESSARY. It AIN'T Garrett guys. It's EVERYONE.

The shotgun is now used more than ever with the use of more multiple receiver sets. Ten years ago 5 teams never used it. Now the rate is about 40% across the league.

Where does Dallas stand? A bit more than average. Six teams use it a lot more than than average with DET at over 70%. That's Linehan's offense of 2013 people.

I would hope this information would silence the Garrett critics some although I doubt it.

 

[Fredd]

so, how many times when we are NOT in the shotgun do we run (and conversely, pass)?

IMO, they could not run much in previous seasons, and thus, the shotgun gives tony that extra second or two to plan his escape...I would expect more run plays when the team plays against teams they CAN run against (DM owns StL, for example)...but they may need to pass more against teams like NO....

 

[waving monkey]

Sorry but I'm not drinking that koolaid. If you think that 8-8 is awesome than I have some real estate on the moon that I'd like to sell you.

Were the Dallas Cowboys and were not supposed to be average. Were supposed to be a winning tradition. However, with Garrett were not. We have actually regressed throughout the years because Garrett just doesn't know how to win the games that count and have actually lost games because of his blunders. I don't know about you but a head coach for the Dallas Cowboys aren't supposed to make the same blunders over and over. But Garrett does.

As for the statement that were running the ball is that a joke? Were running the ball because Garrett is no longer calling the plays. Linehan knows that our strength is running and Romo hasn't been effective. If Garrett had it his way he'll be passing the ball all the time. Last year, we lost to Green Bay because we didn't run the ball. I don't know about you but Im actually happy Garrett is not calling the plays and we have someone that knows what his doing for once.

I like your optimism though that were going to the playoffs. But think about....Garrett no longer calls the plays. Doesn't call the defense. Yet were better as what you stated. Were better in some ways despite Garrett. Not because of him.

Garrett hired the new OC do you not think he know what he was getting in Linehan and approved?
Would you run the ball in 2010-2011-2012 ?

I always wonder about that challenge,"are you happy with three years of 8/8"?
My question is didn't folks see the aging condition of the team and something
had to be done to acquire fresh blood on the team [rebuilding takes time]
If people can't see the positive results coming along for this team,well I can't help you.
We need one more draft to fill in some holes and we will be a in the play offs, just watch

 

[Givincer]

I don't have a problem with shotgun at all.

What I do have a problem with is empty backfield sets, particularly after having a lot of success on the ground. It's not logical to me.

 

[adbutcher]

You said that because Dallas is always in shotgun that defenses know it is going to be a pass 95% of the time. Those stats I posted show that is clearly not true. They also show that Romo throws the ball out of shotgun around the same percentage as other QBs in the league this season.

You also changed your stance and said it isn't about the amount of times the team uses shotgun, but that they use it at the wrong time. You are all over the place in this thread. I can't figure out if you have a point or just want to complain.

Someone needs to call the police because a realistic fan has been murdered.

 

[Texas_Pete]

I just hate when Dallas offense waits til the last second possible to snap the ball.

I think it was a veiled attempt to milk the clock and help keep our then 32nd ranked defense off the field. Injuries and poor execution foiled that strategy.

This year the playcalling is crisper but I think the premise is the same. Difference? Better OL. I wouldn't doubt it if we're amongst the top 5 in time of possession all year.

 

[dupree89]

We're running the ball this year because we can. The last four years because we couldn't.

Good! Then I want to see another 40 carries from the RBs today.

 

[Risen Star]

I like how the draw is coming back in style on the forum now, I remember when a lot of people hated it - and for good reason.

I hated it when it was the only way we could run the ball. Through scheme. Get the defense thinking pass and playing off their back foot. That's why you saw all those delays and draws for years. We had no offensive line.