Why are we desperately hanging on to an 8-8 team?

[zrinkill]

Sounds to me like we have some folks that are extra cranky that we aren't throwing tens of millions at this weak free agent class.

This ...

 

[DoomsDayD]

I wonder this myself. The core of Romo, Witten and Ware have won just 1 playoff game. And have been apart of many collapses and pathetic performances in win or go home games.

It's time to get rid of the vets and get younger. The name of the game is to get rid of someone while they have value, not keep throwing money at them when they are not in their prime anymore.

You didnt get the memo circulating that we have a good roster and our franchise QB is in place??? If we play our cards right this year we just might get that elusive 9th win we have been seeking these past 3 years!!!!

 

[ufcrules1]

:laugh2: this is about as foolish as it gets. Parcells took a team with no talent to one of the most talented rosters in the league when he left.

Exactly. Parcell's did a great job with what he had to work with here and some of the same core players are still here. The problem is a coach like Parcells will never last here in Dallas because he is not a whipping boy like Wade and JG are. However, he is exactly what our team needs.

 

[ufcrules1]

Sounds to me like we have some folks that are extra cranky that we aren't throwing tens of millions at this weak free agent class.

No, more like cranky that we don't have tens of millions to spend period, because of all the kicking the can down the road that goes on here. I'm tired of the mediocrity and sticking with players that simply cannot get it done.

 

[Doomsday101]

Because the roster is pretty good and because we have our franchise QB in place.

Yep. Yes we have some guys at or around 30 and we have some very good young players we have drafted in the last 3 years. While some may want to just blow things up the Cowboys feel different about the situation.

 

[Wood]

I would understand some of the decisions if we were a Super Bowl defending champ, but what are we clinging to? I don't get it. We are about 500 in the last 20 years and coming off 2 8-8 seasons.

Why are we so committed to guys over 30 who are injury proned? Why did we have the previous Ratliff contract, the Witten contract, the Miles Austin contract? Marion Barber, Ken Hamlin, Doug Free. The list goes on and on.

Why is Jerry so loyal to guys? You don't pay a guy for what he has done, you pay him for what he could do. So far, we have come up short in this department and I don't get it.

In my eyes, the only untouchable is Tony Romo.

It boggles my mind that Jay Ratliff's contract was structured so poorly that the only option we have is to extend him further to avoid paying him more money to cut him. That is insane. Doug Free is the same way.

:bang2:

its what has crippled this franchise for better part of 15 years. They over value their own talent. They believe their own hype and bunch of yes men around Jerry. Nobody is truthful with Jerry.

 

[Hook'em#11]

Two words..


Jerry's EGO.

 

[ufcrules1]

Yep. Yes we have some guys at or around 30 and we have some very good young players we have drafted in the last 3 years. While some may want to just blow things up the Cowboys feel different about the situation.

I think they may be on to something. Just a few more holes filled with discount bargain bin players from FA and a solid pick in the first round in the draft should put us in the hunt for the super bowl.

 

[visionary]

its because our "dallas collective hive mind-decision decision makers" (code for jerry, stephen and garrett) have no idea how to evaluate talent or how to assign value to FA players, and are deathly scared that if someone they hit on by accident leaves, they have no confidence they can replace him

so they hang on to and overpay for average, under-performing, aging players and overpay for players from other teams

 

[Doomsday101]

I think they may be on to something. Just a few more holes filled with discount bargain bin players from FA and a solid pick in the first round in the draft should put us in the hunt for the super bowl.

I'm not claiming SB right now. I have seen what getting 1 or 2 key players can do for a team. You may not be able to replace the entire OL I don't think you have to for an OL to be effective. There are no teams putting Pro Bowl players at 22 starting position but often time it is the addition or 1 or 2 key players that can change the outcome. Most games in the NFL are not blow out game vast majority come down to 1 or 2 plays in a game that can change the outcome.

 

[ufcrules1]

I'm not claiming SB right now. I have seen what getting 1 or 2 key players can do for a team. You may not be able to replace the entire OL I don't think you have to for an OL to be effective. There are no teams putting Pro Bowl players at 22 starting position but often time it is the addition or 1 or 2 key players that can change the outcome. Most games in the NFL are not blow out game vast majority come down to 1 or 2 plays in a game that can change the outcome.

Well there you go. I would agree with you about the OL as well. Ours certainly played well enough to beat the Commanders and their 30th ranked passing defense.

 

[jjktkk]

That's bull----, maybe a while ago, but no more. That's Jerry thinking - we are almost there...
We were an 8 - 8 team 2 years ago, an 8 - 8 team last year and we are standing pat right now. So if anything we are less, not better. The draft had better be absolutely spot on, or even with injured players coming back - we will be no better !

Lol, take a look at a calender. Its March, not September.

 

[fivetwos]

No, more like cranky that we don't have tens of millions to spend period, because of all the kicking the can down the road that goes on here. I'm tired of the mediocrity and sticking with players that simply cannot get it done.

I get your frustration, but I don't see who is out there right now that we are missing out on due to no cap room.

Besides, part of the reason we don't have any room right now is we did NOT kick the can down the road with Romo and Spencer.

I don't see the point of having room if you aren't going to use it anyway, which is apparently the approach, and a very good one considering who is out there relative to cost.

 

[DFWJC]

For better or worse, you have to assume that the FO thinks that a year without freakishly bad injury luck, some improved continuity and personnel on the oline, an upgraded secondary (with Carr and Clai + a new safety and Church returning), a simplified but more aggressvie defensive scheme, a hopefully decent draft, young guys ascending (claiborne, dez, carter, smith et al) ...will bring something better than 8-8.

They may be wrong (and I'm making no predictions here), but you know they weren't happy with 8-8, so you assume they think they can do better.

The team actually HAS been shedding some older players the last 2-3 years, just maybe not at the rate some would prefer.

I can only assume Rat is coming back because there's no financial benefit to cut him this year.

I do think Jerry is a bit too loyal to the vets. They love him for it, but it comes back to bite him at times.

 

[anj113]

I would understand some of the decisions if we were a Super Bowl defending champ, but what are we clinging to? I don't get it. We are about 500 in the last 20 years and coming off 2 8-8 seasons.

Why are we so committed to guys over 30 who are injury proned? Why did we have the previous Ratliff contract, the Witten contract, the Miles Austin contract? Marion Barber, Ken Hamlin, Doug Free. The list goes on and on.

Why is Jerry so loyal to guys? You don't pay a guy for what he has done, you pay him for what he could do. So far, we have come up short in this department and I don't get it.

In my eyes, the only untouchable is Tony Romo.

It boggles my mind that Jay Ratliff's contract was structured so poorly that the only option we have is to extend him further to avoid paying him more money to cut him. That is insane. Doug Free is the same way.

:bang2:

This is part of the reason we are mediocre year after year after year

 

[anj113]

The league sucks. You can go from 8-8 to a Super Bowl in the blink of an eye.

Funny how the "blink of an eye" NEVER happens with this team

 

[perrykemp]

Funny how the "blink of an eye" NEVER happens with this team

Were the 49ers vs Ravens "blink of an eye" teams this year?

Were the Giants vs Patriots "blink of the eye" teams in 2011?

Were the Packers vs Steelers "blink of the eye" teams in 2010?

Were the Saints vs Colts "blink of the eye" teams in 2009?

None of them were.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Were the 49ers vs Ravens "blink of an eye" teams this year?

Were the Giants vs Patriots "blink of the eye" teams in 2011?

Were the Packers vs Steelers "blink of the eye" teams in 2010?

Were the Saints vs Colts "blink of the eye" teams in 2009?

None of them were.

um yea some of those teams definitely were... 9-7 giants were... ravens looked horrible at the middle of the season...the saints in 2009 were as well. anyone knows we were close last year if healthy. with a sean lee and bruce carter could have made a huge difference.

 

[jjktkk]

Were the 49ers vs Ravens "blink of an eye" teams this year?

Were the Giants vs Patriots "blink of the eye" teams in 2011?

Were the Packers vs Steelers "blink of the eye" teams in 2010?

Were the Saints vs Colts "blink of the eye" teams in 2009?

None of them were.

I'd say the 2011 NY Giants were. At one point, they were 7-7, which fits the description of "blink of the eye", imo.

 

[Idgit]

Oh BS on all this spencer drivel. If he was so promising why did the Boys make no real attempt to sign him LAST offseason?

Yes he is a good player but he has had ONE season where he could be considered a Pro Bowl player out of SIX SEASONS TOTAL.

1 out of 6

think on that before you call him Pro Bowl. Things broke right for him last year- who is to say he will ever match it again?

Why do you keep saying they made no attempt to sign Spencer prior to this season? Is it easier to choose to believe that instead of the actual truth that they franchised him when they were unable to get a long-term deal done?