Why are we desperately hanging on to an 8-8 team?

[jjktkk]

Is it any more 'fantasy' than the owner continuing to believe in futility that 'next year' is always 'his year'?

Acting like a bee repeatedly bouncing off a clear pane of glass hoping to escape? "This time, this time, this time" (Think Bee Movie)

You should of come out earlier in this thread with what you were really getting at. And when did 'ole Jerry say he was content at 8-8?

 

[Stash]

You should of come out earlier in this thread with what you were really getting at. And when did 'ole Jerry say he was content at 8-8?

When he kept the same GM.

Actions, not words.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

The owner cares about himself more than he does his team. He knows he's a fraud. He simply doesn't care enough to make the change. He'd rather keep trying to win his way than risk winning with somebody else running the football operations.

He's a sick man.

Can we get Jerry's bio on yourself? Ya!

 

[Doomsay]

Can we get Jerry's bio on yourself? Ya!

English?

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

Is it any more 'fantasy' than the owner continuing to believe in futility that 'next year' is always 'his year'?

Acting like a bee repeatedly bouncing off a clear pane of glass hoping to escape? "This time, this time, this time" (Think Bee Movie)

I remember in the 1970's when sportswriters from either the Dallas Morning News or the Dallas Times Herald bragged the Cowboys were NOT that kind of team with a meddling, impatient owner.

Then one of them bought the Cowboys and got rid of everything it stood for. :cry3:

 

[jnday]

You ready for 4 or 5 more years down the road during the rebuilding? Cowboy fans would go freaking crazy!

And, there is no guarantees in life. You, I, or anyone else on the planet can guarantee that what you ascribe to would come true.

It's a fantasy, that's all.

Are you ready for four or five more years of 8-8 or worse? At least when they are rebuilding there is hope. Why go on with this foolishness?

 

[jjktkk]

Are you ready for four or five more years of 8-8 or worse? At least when they are rebuilding there is hope. Why go on with this foolishness?

Because their is a chance to improve with this current team.

 

[DFWJC]

Because their is a chance to improve with this current team.

Me too...with some key additions and subtractions.

I think the 2011 team was better than the 2010 group that gave up,

and last years team was better than the 2011 group.

and if (always a big if) they do a somewhat decent job of filling a couple of holes (at least one starting olineman and and a saftey) and don't have armageddon-like injuries, the 2013 will be better than 2012.

The question always is will they do what seems obvious and do it well? Some dpeth and clean but low-level additions in FA and then they must have a respectable draft...we'll see.

 

[TheFinisher]

You ready for 4 or 5 more years down the road during the rebuilding? Cowboy fans would go freaking crazy!

And, there is no guarantees in life. You, I, or anyone else on the planet can guarantee that what you ascribe to would come true.

It's a fantasy, that's all.

As a fan, its a lot more fun to watch a young team grow than it is to watch an old one die.

 

[jnday]

Because their is a chance to improve with this current team.

They don't have the cap room and the draft will be too little, too late. So how are they going to do it ?

 

[weaver21]

They don't have the cap room and the draft will be too little, too late. So how are they going to do it ?

How is the draft too little, too late? They can add 2, possibly 3, starters in this draft if they play it smart and signing Romo to a long-term deal opens up about $7-10 million of cap space and that's not adding what Spencer's extension could do as well. Adding a solid player like Matt Slauson and drafting Cooper or Warmack would improve our offensive line drastically from last season. Adding pieces to the defensive line through the draft and possibly adding a safety through free agency or the draft would help as well.

 

[jjktkk]

They don't have the cap room and the draft will be too little, too late. So how are they going to do it ?

The cap will improve once Romo and Spencer get new contracts. Improve the OL/running game. Improve the safety position/produce more takeaways. Retooled defensive coaching staff bringing in the 4-3.

 

[junk]

Me too...with some key additions and subtractions.

I think the 2011 team was better than the 2010 group that gave up,

and last years team was better than the 2011 group.

and if (always a big if) they do a somewhat decent job of filling a couple of holes (at least one starting olineman and and a saftey) and don't have armageddon-like injuries, the 2013 will be better than 2012.

The question always is will they do what seems obvious and do it well? Some dpeth and clean but low-level additions in FA and then they must have a respectable draft...we'll see.

You could certainly look at a team that was decimated by injury last year and use that alone as a justification for basically maintaining the status quo. You could say that about the defensive side of the ball as well as the offensive line. You could certainly argue that a healthy OL working together all of camp, a healthy defense, a simplified defense and new defensive coaching staff and a few draft picks/low level free agents should be enough to win you a couple of close games and get you into the playoffs.

I can definitely see that argument.

However, there are two sides to every coin. I'm probably taking a risk by being <gasp> pessimistic here, but there are downfalls to that approach and I'm not sure you are setting yourself up for success.

Even if healthy, maybe the OL still isn't any good. The two guards are castoffs and Costa was a guy most couldn't wait to boot after 2011. Now a little more than a game in 2012 have people thinking he's solid.

Maybe the guys you are counting on to take the next step either don't (Crawford/Parnell) or can't get healthy enough to (Johnson/Church). Maybe your guys that are always injured.....get injured (Lee, Carter, Austin, Murray). Maybe a team that has been built for the 3-4 for about 7 years really doesn't translate to a 4-3 as well as you thought.

You could also dig a little deeper and see that Dallas beat one playoff team last year (Bengals). You could see that a team that historically staggers to the end of a season before collapsing....staggered to the end of the season and collapsed. You could notice that a team that has had a middle of the road offense since 2007 had a middle of the road offense including a 31st ranked rushing offense. You might notice a team who, on multiple occasions, had to abandon their game plan and go no huddle once they were in a hole to generate a lot of their offense. At this point, it doesn't look like a lot of changes are in store for that offense.

This team needs to nail the draft (I feel like I've been saying that for several years). The pro personnel department did a good job of finding guys to play last year. They need to apply that to FA to find some vet bargains like the Pats have in the past. They might stand a chance of getting those missing couple of wins and getting into the playoffs. However, I still don't think they can do enough in one offseason to stack up with the upper echelon teams in the NFL.

 

[kiheikiwi]

You could certainly look at a team that was decimated by injury last year and use that alone as a justification for basically maintaining the status quo. You could say that about the defensive side of the ball as well as the offensive line. You could certainly argue that a healthy OL working together all of camp, a healthy defense, a simplified defense and new defensive coaching staff and a few draft picks/low level free agents should be enough to win you a couple of close games and get you into the playoffs.

I can definitely see that argument.

However, there are two sides to every coin. I'm probably taking a risk by being <gasp> pessimistic here, but there are downfalls to that approach and I'm not sure you are setting yourself up for success.

Even if healthy, maybe the OL still isn't any good. The two guards are castoffs and Costa was a guy most couldn't wait to boot after 2011. Now a little more than a game in 2012 have people thinking he's solid.

Maybe the guys you are counting on to take the next step either don't (Crawford/Parnell) or can't get healthy enough to (Johnson/Church). Maybe your guys that are always injured.....get injured (Lee, Carter, Austin, Murray). Maybe a team that has been built for the 3-4 for about 7 years really doesn't translate to a 4-3 as well as you thought.

You could also dig a little deeper and see that Dallas beat one playoff team last year (Bengals). You could see that a team that historically staggers to the end of a season before collapsing....staggered to the end of the season and collapsed. You could notice that a team that has had a middle of the road offense since 2007 had a middle of the road offense including a 31st ranked rushing offense. You might notice a team who, on multiple occasions, had to abandon their game plan and go no huddle once they were in a hole to generate a lot of their offense. At this point, it doesn't look like a lot of changes are in store for that offense.

This team needs to nail the draft (I feel like I've been saying that for several years). The pro personnel department did a good job of finding guys to play last year. They need to apply that to FA to find some vet bargains like the Pats have in the past. They might stand a chance of getting those missing couple of wins and getting into the playoffs. However, I still don't think they can do enough in one offseason to stack up with the upper echelon teams in the NFL.

Very good read, spot on. We can all hope that things will change - believe me, I really really do hope so. But the recent history is not so bright. Reason to be pessimistic but at the same time still love and hope our team will somehow improve.

 

[LOBO7]

Well you were one drive away from winning the division. You miss the game wining FG to lose @ Balt. Beat the Giants in NY and even more impressive, beating the Bengals @ Cinn. If your that horrible and still manage to go 8-8 imagine cutting some deadwood, and replacing it with better or at least younger talent. Now imagine not losing 7 starters on defense to injury. That's why you might give it another chance.

 

[jjktkk]

Very good read, spot on. We can all hope that things will change - believe me, I really really do hope so. But the recent history is not so bright. Reason to be pessimistic but at the same time still love and hope our team will somehow improve.

Outstanding post!

 

[DeaconBlues]

I remember in the 1970's when sportswriters from either the Dallas Morning News or the Dallas Times Herald bragged the Cowboys were NOT that kind of team with a meddling, impatient owner.

Then one of them bought the Cowboys and got rid of everything it stood for. :cry3:

You had to go all the way back to the '70s to crack on JJ???


That is truly sad . . .

 

[DeaconBlues]

Well you were one drive away from winning the division. You miss the game wining FG to lose @ Balt. Beat the Giants in NY and even more impressive, beating the Bengals @ Cinn. If your that horrible and still manage to go 8-8 imagine cutting some deadwood, and replacing it with better or at least younger talent. Now imagine not losing 7 starters on defense to injury. That's why you might give it another chance.

:clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

 

[03EBZ06]

Building a very successful team takes good planning (including FA's, drafts), luck, time, and great leadership. It's so much easier said than done.

Many complains about the Cowboys Management (whom many fans constantly remind all of us of 17 years of failures, on a daily basis) and HC and yet they believe that same people can rebuild a very successful team in few years? Alrighty then, lol.

Some people on here truly makes me laugh. :laugh2:

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

You had to go all the way back to the '70s to crack on JJ???


That is truly sad . . .

Sad that you laugh at the many years the Cowboys were an elite team and settle for what we have now.