Why are we desperately hanging on to an 8-8 team?

[Doomsday]

how did the "cap hell" really hurt the Skins?

You mean other than a decade of not being able to win the division once?

 

[justbob]

Starting to get way past discussion and to much bashing...Do better gentlemen

 

[Stash]

how did the "cap hell" really hurt the Skins?

Simple answer, what did they ever win while they were in cap hell?

 

[Stash]

:laugh2: :laugh2:

I'd explain my position further if you were interested?

Unless you'd just like to stick to the snarky smilies?

 

[ShiningStar]

Simple answer, what did they ever win while they were in cap hell?

that can be said of cap friendly teams as well. point to me directly where the cap hell stopped them from guaranteeing that they would win it all?

 

[jjktkk]

When did back to back 8-8 seasons become 'performing at a high level'?

I think the original poster is spot on.

This team is in cap hell now and for the forseeable future for fear of not keeping together a bunch of players who've gotten them to 6-10, 8-8, and 8-8.

It will never happen, but I think they might just be better off long term trading away both Romo and Spencer and putting all resources into rebuilding.

Other than whining to complain about the team as a whole, when did Romo, Witten, and Ware become JAGS?

 

[Stash]

that can be said of cap friendly teams as well. point to me directly where the cap hell stopped them from guaranteeing that they would win it all?

They didn't win, for over a decade. What more evidence do you need?

 

[ShiningStar]

They didn't win, for over a decade. What more evidence do you need?

bad coaching, bad players, inept standards. I can show evidence at a lot of other places, but not directly at cap hell. Sorry on this one you are wrong.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

Why are you surprise? This is Jerry at his finest. This occurred when Aikman, Irvin, and Emmitt were getting old. The only thing that saved the Cowboys was Bill Parcells.

It's not being negative it's reality.

Spot on.

 

[Stash]

Other than whining to complain about the team as a whole, when did Romo, Witten, and Ware become JAGS?

I never said they were. They're quality players. Quality players reching the points in their careers when their cost is greater than their contributions. Happens to every great player,

But they've had their chances together and this team has failed to win the big one.

Rather than continuing to invest current and future cap space chasing with this group while being hamstrung from adding any quality players (subtracting in fact), it may be time to trade away players for picks and cap space for the future.

I think between Spencer and Romo, you could obtain a plethora of quality draft picks, to say nothing of close to $25 million in cap space for this year.

 

[ShiningStar]

I never said they were. They're quality players. Quality players reching the points in their careers when their cost is greater than their contributions. Happens to every great player,

But they've had their chances together and this team has failed to win the big one.

Rather than continuing to invest current and future cap space chasing with this group while being hamstrung from adding any quality players (subtracting in fact), it may be time to trade away players for picks and cap space for the future.

I think between Spencer and Romo, you could obtain a plethora of quality draft picks, to say nothing of close to $25 million in cap space for this year.

i dont think eitehr would bring in a plethora. I dont see many teams wanting Romo at his age and if they have chosen to rebuild and I think at best Spencer we could trade firsts.

 

[Stash]

bad coaching, bad players, inept standards. I can show evidence at a lot of other places, but not directly at cap hell. Sorry on this one you are wrong.

The facts support my position.

While in cap hell, they didn't win.

Beyond that, you can believe whatever else you would like to believe.

 

[5Stars]

I'd explain my position further if you were interested?

Unless you'd just like to stick to the snarky smilies?

Dude! If you think things are bad now, just get rid of Romo and see what the future looks like! You want to go through another year after year after year trying to build a team without a good QB?

Romo is going to be gone when his time is up, and his time is not up, yet.

But, if we do get rid of him and build a damn good team, guess what? We have a Quincy Cater trying to run the show.

 

[ShiningStar]

The facts support my position.

While in cap hell, they didn't win.

Beyond that, you can believe whatever else you would like to believe.

howd that work out for Tampa? The lions? the bills? arizona? SD? I can go on and on and on.

 

[Stash]

i dont think eitehr would bring in a plethora. I dont see many teams wanting Romo at his age and if they have chosen to rebuild and I think at best Spencer we could trade firsts.

If Kevin Kolb brought the Eagles a 2nd and DRC, I think Romo is worth at least a 1st and 3rd.

I think Buffalo or Arizona would be all over him.

And I think you could get at least a 2nd rounder for Spencer, even if it meant trading him to the Eagles.

 

[jjktkk]

I never said they were. They're quality players. Quality players reching the points in their careers when their cost is greater than their contributions. Happens to every great player,

But they've had their chances together and this team has failed to win the big one.

Rather than continuing to invest current and future cap space chasing with this group while being hamstrung from adding any quality players (subtracting in fact), it may be time to trade away players for picks and cap space for the future.

I think between Spencer and Romo, you could obtain a plethora of quality draft picks, to say nothing of close to $25 million in cap space for this year.

And presto, your back into contention. Just getcha one of those thar fancy franchise qbs and your off and running.

 

[5Stars]

If Kevin Kolb brought the Eagles a 2nd and DRC, I think Romo is worth at least a 1st and 3rd.

I think Buffalo or Arizona would be all over him.

And I think you could get at least a 2nd rounder for Spencer, even if it meant trading him to the Eagles.

Sweet...trade a good player to a divisional rival!

:laugh2:

 

[ShiningStar]

If Kevin Kolb brought the Eagles a 2nd and DRC, I think Romo is worth at least a 1st and 3rd.

I think Buffalo or Arizona would be all over him.

And I think you could get at least a 2nd rounder for Spencer, even if it meant trading him to the Eagles.

id doubt it, the raiders have a new owner and are the Cards still desperate that they think Romo would bring them closer? I think someone would rather build with a new qb.

As for the eagles, i dont see the new HC spending anything for Spencer and i dont see his value at a second when second round will be higher this year point wise.

We can dream, but that doesnt help your argument either on this one.

 

[DFWJC]

how did the "cap hell" really hurt the Skins?

The Skins have been in cap hell for awhile now.

In the last 10 seasons, they have only had a better record than Dallas two times.

 

[Stash]

Dude! If you think things are bad now, just get rid of Romo and see what the future looks like! You want to go through another year after year after year trying to build a team without a good QB?

Romo is going to be gone when his time is up, and his time is not up, yet.

But, if we do get rid of him and build a damn good team, guess what? We have a Quincy Cater trying to run the show.

Looks to me like the Commanders, Seahawks, and 49'ers all did pretty well handing the reigns to young quarterbacks.

But we choose to rush along after teams like the Patriots, Saints and Ravens who will end up paying $10 - $15 million in dead money to quarterbacks after they are no longer with the team.

Good news for them will be that they managed to win a championship along the way, unlike us.