Why Can't Dallas Field a Good Offense & Defense At The Same Time

[plasticman]

It's points that win or lose games and last season the Cowboys offense was #1 in scoring points while the defense was #7 in preventing points.

Do they need improvement? Sure! However, they are far from destitute.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wow. You really don’t know , do you. The history of official rankings in the NFL.

Do you have any evidence the official rankings isn’t based on total yards?

You suck at logic. You go ahead and think it is valid to assert something as true and not have to support your claim if you like.

 

[Rockport]

I'll tell you why... They over compensate.. When the offense was putrid, especially the Oline. They used a bunch of resources to fix the line. Problem solved. But the defense got old quick. Then they have to use a whole entire draft to fix the defense.. Things are looking up.. Now we got a old slow Zeke, 1 WR and Oline is looking a mess. Now its time to fix the Offense..

They did last year. 12-5. Coaching failed them.

 

[Swagger]

19th in yards , the difference from #5 to 19th is 34 yards a game. I take those points against at #7 and take those 8.5 yards a quarter given up
So Clev was number 5 in yards. But #14 in points and some still go by yards. Official what ever I want a d that doesn’t allow points.

Which defense led the league in turnovers and gave the ball to the offense?

 

[CWR]

It's common knowledge Jerry made a deal with the devil for that last superbowl. We are simply seeing the results of said deal.

 

[Diehardblues]

You suck at logic. You go ahead and think it is valid to assert something as true and not have to support your claim if you like.

Which is basically what you’re doing.

If you aren’t aware that the NFL has always used Total Yards as the measurement for its official defensive rankings that’s on you to seek it out. Do you have any evidence it’s not true?

 

[kskboys]

It's points that win or lose games and last season the Cowboys offense was #1 in scoring points while the defense was #7 in preventing points.

Do they need improvement? Sure! However, they are far from destitute.

And yet, it was yards that caused the lost vs SF.

 

[Diehardblues]

Points is a team stat not just defense because offense and special teams can also give up points.

 

[Diehardblues]

How do NFL offenses and defenses get ranked?

• The league's offenses are ranked by which teams averaged the most yards per game; the defenses are judged by who allowed the fewest yards per game.
  
  www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/8379024/nfl-explaining-expected-points-metric
  
  

 

[Diehardblues]

And yet, it was yards that caused the lost vs SF.

Yep… yards and moving the chains provide for more opportunities to score . But turnover differential is a vital stat and can often overcome dominance of yardage if a team can’t convert in Redzone or turns it over . And why all of these other contributing factors are important.

 

[Streifenkarl]

the offense and defense were both well above average last year.

we won more games than we lost, people.

... said the man and went to fight some kids at the near elementary school.

Gee, first of all in a division like ours last year we could have fielded the practice squad and got the division win. Philly didn't even show up in the last game. How did you like our games vs KC, Arizona and SF?

I give you the TB game, at least they were trying.

Around here we call that the one eyed among the blind.

 

[Ring6]

It's points that win or lose games and last season the Cowboys offense was #1 in scoring points while the defense was #7 in preventing points.

Do they need improvement? Sure! However, they are far from destitute.

yeah, I was going to say, last year wasn't too bad on either side. just flopped in the playoffs. SF blocked Micah several times on that first drive and we had no answer. Then on the other side, we couldn't stop the run.

 

[lostar2009]

They love placing JAGS or unproven players in places of need. Then they try to get some real help the following season. But the tape fell off the other side of the ball. Right now its going to be the WR core and our kicking that might keep us out the playoffs.

 

[kskboys]

Yep… yards and moving the chains provide for more opportunities to score . But turnover differential is a vital stat and can often overcome dominance of yardage if a team can’t convert in Redzone or turns it over . And why all of these other contributing factors are important.

Yup, ranking a D should include all those items. Funny thing is, points is way down on the list when ranking a D. It's one of the least accurate factors.

 

[plasticman]

yeah, I was going to say, last year wasn't too bad on either side. just flopped in the playoffs. SF blocked Micah several times on that first drive and we had no answer. Then on the other side, we couldn't stop the run.

Not being able to stop the run was key. The Cowboys constantly used rookies on the D-line due to injury and the D-line was never really cohesive, something you need to stop the run.

It's different this season. I like our DT's this season, it looks like the Cowboys are going to be deep at that position. Gallimore, Osa, and even Hill should provide a vast improvement when it comes to defending the middle of the field against the run. Also, with Parson's speed, they should be able to seal up the run far more effectively.

 

[plasticman]

And yet, it was yards that caused the lost vs SF.

You mean in terms of eating up the clock and providing less opportunity for the Cowboys to score? It was certainly frustrating.

 

[Brax]

Which defense led the league in turnovers and gave the ball to the offense?

Only yards to some anything else is not a true indicator I have to laugh at them

 

[kskboys]

You mean in terms of eating up the clock and providing less opportunity for the Cowboys to score? It was certainly frustrating.

And allowing a mediocre SF O to move the ball at will. It was beyond frustrating.

 

[kskboys]

Only yards to some anything else is not a true indicator I have to laugh at them

And since using only points is even less accurate, you must be laughing even harder at those who try to.

 

[Brax]

And since using only points is even less accurate, you must be laughing even harder at those who try to.

Think about what you are saying, and what points are really comprised of, you keep using yards as your benchmark I’ll look at points first, turn overs next and go from there and keep laughing at the yardage counters