Why can't we trade Dak to a team that absorbs some of his contract?

[CowboyRoy]

Have you seen what the Packers did with the team in the offseaon?

Rodgers wasnt bad. He played thru a broken thumb, where our Bum took weeks off. He wants out of GB for years now. Still he carried the team on his own into the playoffs.

Of course father time takes his tolls. But to say Rodgers is bad, seriously. Thats not true.

He had a bad season especially for Rogers. So lets analyze why it happened. Weapons around him in the passing game was the #1 reason in my mind.

 

[noshame]

Someone has to want Dak

 

[McKDaddy]

If you have no intention of watching next season if he’s under center then you might as well move on now because he’s going to be our QB next season. You don’t sound like a true blue Cowboys fan if you’re going to quit watching because of the QB. You must have just started following the team. You’ve only been part of this fan board since 2018. Is that when you started following the Cowboys? You couldn’t have possibly been following the team in the early 2000s. That was the worst QB situation in the history of the franchise.

Been a fan since mid 70's. There have been some lean years for sure. I can't say that I've ever known we couldn't win because of just one player though. Who knows, maybe it's just because I'm older or because there is so much more info nowadays (burnout). Either way, I have not had much belief in the player since 2017 but I kept mind open that he might get it together. These last couple years though it's just been a drag because I knew no matter what happened he would ultimately implode. So yeah, I've have no interest in watching a rinse & repeat part 3.

 

[KJJ]

Been a fan since mid 70's. There have been some lean years for sure. I can't say that I've ever known we couldn't win because of just one player though. Who knows, maybe it's just because I'm older or because there is so much more info nowadays (burnout). Either way, I have not had much belief in the player since 2017 but I kept mind open that he might get it together. These last couple years though it's just been a drag because I knew no matter what happened he would ultimately implode. So yeah, I've have no interest in watching a rinse & repeat part 3.

Our QB situation is night and day better than it was during the Gary Hogeboom- Steve Pelluer years and 100 times better than the years we suffered through with Anthony Wright, Quincy Carter, Clint Stoerner, Drew Henson, Ryan Leaf, Drew Bledsoe and Vinny Testaverde. from 2000 until Tony Romo came along in 2006 it was QB hell! Why didn’t you move on from the team then? I believe in this QB a heck of a lot more than I believed in any of the QBs we had back then. We have two playoff wins with this QB, including the first road playoff win in 30 years against Tom Brady. He has the same exact playoff record as Tony Romo in a shorter period of time. He clearly has some chinks in his game right now that he’s going to have to correct but there’s other problems around him. His overall receiving core wasn’t that good this season. He needs more weapons and a new OC.

 

[McKDaddy]

Our QB situation is night and day better than it was during the Gary Hogeboom- Steve Pelluer years and 100 times better than the years we suffered through with Anthony Wright, Quincy Carter, Clint Stoerner, Drew Henson, Ryan Leaf, Drew Bledsoe and Vinny Testaverde. from 2000 until Tony Romo came along in 2006 it was QB hell! Why didn’t you move on from the team then? I believe in this QB a heck of a lot more than I believed in any of the QBs we had back then. We have two playoff wins with this QB, including the first road playoff win in 30 years against Tom Brady. He has the same exact playoff record as Tony Romo in a shorter period of time. He clearly has some chinks in his game right now that he’s going to have to correct but there’s other problems around him. His overall receiving core wasn’t that good this season. He needs more weapons and a new OC.

You can always improve a team and sure we have some areas that need addressed but the rest of the team played hard and were capable of beating what was in most respects a better team. They were not the primary reason we lost last Sunday. Too many times over his career, #4 has been the primary reason we lost. Life's too short to root for the same thing & hope for different results. So, no matter what they do to improve the team as long as he's here it's meaningless to me. I'll still be a fan of the team and individual players but I won't be expecting them to have real success.

 

[KJJ]

You can always improve a team and sure we have some areas that need addressed but the rest of the team played hard and were capable of beating what was in most respects a better team. They were not the primary reason we lost last Sunday. Too many times over his career, #4 has been the primary reason we lost. Life's too short to root for the same thing & hope for different results. So, no matter what they do to improve the team as long as he's here it's meaningless to me. I'll still be a fan of the team and individual players but I won't be expecting them to have real success.

You obviously don’t follow the team very closely or simply dislike Dak because this is one of the few times that he was the primary reason we lost. He was part of the reason we lost last season to San Francisco in the playoffs, but the rest of the playoff games we’ve lost he played well enough to win. When we lost to the Packers in 2016, he had a very solid game but we couldn’t stop Aaron Rodgers in the final seconds. In 2018 he outplayed Jared Goff, but our defense got destroyed by the Rams running game. He’s had two bad playoff games out of six. Moving on from Amari Cooper was huge and it had a negative affect on Dak’s game. Go back and look how much he improved when we traded for Cooper in 2018. Aaron Rodgers had his struggles without Davante Adams this season. You can’t move on from the best receiver on your team and not have it affect your QB. Michael Gallup not returning to form was another big problem.

 

[doomsday808]

Why can't we trade Dak to a team that absorbs some of his contract?​

JERRY'S EGO!

 

[BoyzBlaster]

I agree. You just need one idiot owner or GM like Jerry to take him. And bench him if you want him to waive his no trade.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Again to many people are over thinking his no trade clause. It would be very easy to trade Dak. You just tell him the team is going in a different direction and he is no longer the starting QB. The no trade clause allows Dak to be part of the trade deal where he would be able to negotiate with other interested teams. He only has two choices, he comes to an agreement with another team and moves on with his career or Dallas can just sit him and his playing career ends here. A very simple choice to make. It just allows both the player and the team to look like winners. There is not a starting QB out there where his ego would allow him to sit on the bench

Exactly!

 

[Kinh]

I bet ya, Carolina, Houston or the NY Jets would give up 2 first rounders for DAK....They want franchise QB in the worst way....and be willing to pay...DAK might even get a pay raise, Then sign Carr or Jimmy G as short term solutions

Two things would hold back the deal IMO....
1. No Trade Clause in DAKs contract
2. The 2023 Dead Cap would increase to something like 39mil for the Cowboys (not sure tho)

Are you serious?

Goff was released by the Rams and they had to give a 1st and a 3rd for him. Guess what, he nearly beat the Packers in the divisional round. You think teams would give 2 first for Dak? No, Cowboys would have to give draft picks for other teams to take Dak off their hand. Dak right now is worse than Goff in 2019. Like NO ONE wants Dak RIGHT NOW!

Oh yeah, and Dak contract is albatross compares to even Goff contract.

 

[morat1959]

That would be hard to do since we'd be limited to where Dak wants to go. So we'd be paying for Dak to be on another team. Plus we only have 2 more years with Dak if they want to move on. They don't have to do it now. It's not like in the next year or two we're going to miraculously find a better QB and win the SB.

Your opinion of Dak and mine differ but I think we could upgrade. The Jones boys have got to bring in some competition. Dak’s never had any.

 

[McKDaddy]

You obviously don’t follow the team very closely or simply dislike Dak because this is one of the few times that he was the primary reason we lost. He was part of the reason we lost last season to San Francisco in the playoffs, but the rest of the playoff games we’ve lost he played well enough to win. When we lost to the Packers in 2016, he had a very solid game but we couldn’t stop Aaron Rodgers in the final seconds. In 2018 he outplayed Jared Goff, but our defense got destroyed by the Rams running game. He’s had two bad playoff games out of six. Moving on from Amari Cooper was huge and it had a negative affect on Dak’s game. Go back and look how much he improved when we traded for Cooper in 2018. Aaron Rodgers had his struggles without Davante Adams this season. You can’t move on from the best receiver on your team and not have it affect your QB. Michael Gallup not returning to form was another big problem.

Majority of fans have decided that he is indeed the primary problem. If you still believe, enjoy watching.

 

[KJJ]

Majority of fans have decided that he is indeed the primary problem. If you still believe, enjoy watching.

The majority of the fans don’t know what they’re talking about. They’ve been screaming he’s the primary problem even when he was playing his best football. If you don’t believe anymore I don’t know why you’re still here posting.

 

[McKDaddy]

If you don’t believe anymore I don’t know why you’re still here posting.

Sharing is healing. Participation in the forum goes beyond any one subject. Don't have to believe they will have success to come here.

 

[shabazz]

This won’t work with Dak because the dead cap Dallas will take has already been paid to him. I’ll give you an example of what you’re thinking of:

Cleveland owed Baker Mayfield 18m in fully guaranteed salary this season. They wanted to trade him, but no one would take that deal. So Cleveland agreed to pay 3/4 of his salary to get him off the books. When Dallas trades Dak, all of his salary goes to the other team. The only absorbing of salary that can happen is if Dallas agreed to pay some of it for the new team, which is the opposite of what you want.

But the big cap numbers and dead money Dallas takes on in a trade is because of guarantees they’ve already paid Dak that are spread to future years. It’s not money you can get back unless Dak agrees to write Dallas a check for 30m$, which will never happen. Restructure (guaranteeing he’s a cowboys for more years and requiring an extension next year), extend now, or trade & accept the massive cap hit. Basically the 3 options.

These 3 options are like saying you can die by lethal injection, gas chamber, or hanging…….none of them worth a damn over the other

 

[Sarek]

This site should absorb some of it. Making money off the Cowboys brand and giving nothing back.

 

[KJJ]

Sharing is healing. Participation in the forum goes beyond any one subject. Don't have to believe they will have success to come here.

Anyone who continues to frequent this forum and post hasn’t given up on the team.

 

[McKDaddy]

Anyone who continues to frequent this forum and post hasn’t given up on the team.

Ok, but I'm pretty sure I know how I feel.

 

[KJJ]

Ok, but I'm pretty sure I know how I feel.

If you felt the way you say you do you wouldn’t be here. I can’t imagine anyone who’s been following the Cowboys since the 70s being so put off with Dak they would give up on the team. Are you going to tell me this is the worst QB situation you’ve seen with the team since you’ve been following the Cowboys? Do you believe he’s worse than Gary Hogeboom and Steve Peuller? Do you believe he’s worse than Quincy Carter and the other QBs we used during the early 2000s?

 

[conner01]

The question is can you eat the cap space that would cost?
The base salary is all that goes with a player traded
It’s not financially possible to trade Dak not to mention he has a no trade clause which makes it even harder