Why Dak Gets Signed

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cowboyec

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he'll get signed because there isn't a better option.
unless jerry wants to roll the dice on a rookie next year...we don't have a better option.
we might have if we had a football GM who would have been drafting QBs in each draft...regardless of the starter.
to have real depth at the position and create competition.
but he's never done that.
sign dak...draft a qb...continue to develop trey lance.

ipso-fatso...solved.
 

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Probably cause many have felt Jethro was standing strong not wanting to pay the highest or set Market Price . Even if he knew he’d probably have to.

It’s playing public perception. By waiting he’s hoping will be sympathetic he held out as long as he could but ultimately had to decide if they were All In or not with Dak. So in effect that’s caving.
I love how you say why Jerry does what he does. Go listen to his interview and you wont have to put words in his mouth.
 

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he'll get signed because there isn't a better option.
unless jerry wants to roll the dice on a rookie next year...we don't have a better option.
we might have if we had a football GM who would have been drafting QBs in each draft...regardless of the starter.
to have real depth at the position and create competition.
but he's never done that.
sign dak...draft a qb...continue to develop trey lance.

ipso-fatso...solved.
start listing all of the real football GMs that draft QBs every year and have one sitting in the wings that has taken over and been a pro bowl type QB.

Ok, Green Bay... no go from there.
 

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I love how you say why Jerry does what he does. Go listen to his interview and you wont have to put words in his mouth.
And you believe everything he says. Thats your prerogative. Sorry. But I’m more apt to interpret his actions over his words.
 

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start listing all of the real football GMs that draft QBs every year and have one sitting in the wings that has taken over and been a pro bowl type QB.

Ok, Green Bay... no go from there.
The Egirls drafted Hurts when they had a Franchise QB, the Pats drafted Jimmy G when they had Brady.

Steelers drafted Pickett when they had what they thought was franchise QB in Trubisky. Same with Bears, this year .

I’m sure there’s more examples out there besides what comes off the top of my head.

I will agree , it’s not wide spread but it happening more often than just at Green Bay.
 

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start listing all of the real football GMs that draft QBs every year and have one sitting in the wings that has taken over and been a pro bowl type QB.

Ok, Green Bay... no go from there.
my point is we shouldn't wait til we need one to draft one.
at one point,coach landry had don meredith,craig morton and roger staubach in his qb room.
and it was like that up and down the roster.
but i'm not expecting it to happen with our gm.
he's never done it and never will.
he'll wait til dak is at the tail end and draft a qb in the 4th or 5th.

9ers had montana and acquired steve young.
pack had favre and drafted rodgers.
9ers had jimmy g and continued at the position.
chiefs had alex smith and drafted mahomes.
giants had simms and drafted hostetler.
and on and on and on.
we should always be drafting qb's...for depth and to create competition.
like coach landry talked about...knowing there is someone behind you good enough to take your spot is a great motivator.
 
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The Egirls drafted Hurts when they had a Franchise QB, the Pats drafted Jimmy G when they had Brady.

Steelers drafted Pickett when they had what they thought was franchise QB in Trubisky. Same with Bears, this year .

I’m sure there’s more examples out there besides what comes off the top of my head.

I will agree , it’s not wide spread but it happening more often than just at Green Bay.
wait.... so you think the Eagles thought they had a franchise qb at the time they drafted Hurts?
The steelers thought the same Trubinsky that stunk in Chicago was a franchise qb?
The bears had drafted their "Franchise qb," a few years ago and realized he stunk. Caleb Wiliams was a very highly regarded prospect... they didnt draft williams when they felt they have a franchise qb.

All of those teams were and are playing the QB roulette game that teams have been doing for 20 or more years. And the Steelers are still playing. How was Pickett for them?
How was Fields?
Hell, Hurts has only had 1 solid season out of his 4. So why didnt the Eagles draft a QB this year?
Wy didnt the steelers draft a QB? Seahawks? Jets?
 

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my point is we shouldn't wait til we need one to draft one.
at one point,coach landry had don meredith,craig morton and roger staubach in his qb room.
and it was like that up and down the roster.
but i'm not expecting it to happen with our gm.
he's never done it and never will.
he'll wait til dak is at the tail end and draft a qb in the 4th or 5th.

9ers had montana and acquired steve young.
pack had favre and drafted rodgers.
9ers had jimmy g and continued at the position.
chiefs had alex smith and drafted mahomes.
giants had simms and drafted hostetler.
and on and on and on.
we should always be drafting qb's...for depth and to create competition.
like coach landry talked about...knowing there is someone behind you good enough to take your spot is a great motivator.
almost all of those, with the exception of 2 were pre salary cap. The Niners were paying both Young and Montana HUGE money. Salary cap doesnt allow a team with an all pro qb to use a first rd pick on somone tat is going to sit.
Alex Smith was at the end of his career, and was NEVEr a franchise QB.
Fare was at the end also and was threateing to retire every year, ONLY reason they went in on Rodgers.... and it was smart. But lie I said, start listing the teams of the last 20 years.

Using pre cap and post cap teams as examples is comparing apples to ranges.
 

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almost all of those, with the exception of 2 were pre salary cap. The Niners were paying both Young and Montana HUGE money. Salary cap doesnt allow a team with an all pro qb to use a first rd pick on somone tat is going to sit.
Alex Smith was at the end of his career, and was NEVEr a franchise QB.
Fare was at the end also and was threateing to retire every year, ONLY reason they went in on Rodgers.... and it was smart. But lie I said, start listing the teams of the last 20 years.

Using pre cap and post cap teams as examples is comparing apples to ranges.
falcons signed cousins...drafted pennix.
packers had rodgers...drafted love.
9ers had jimmy g...drafted trey lance...later brock purdy.
chiefs had alex smith...drafted pat.

we should always be drafting qb's for depth and to create competition at the most important position on your team.
instead of what our gm does.
we've had dak since '16...and have drafted...what...2 qbs...mike white and denucci...maybe i'm missing another.
he will wait til he has completely moved on from dak then address it seriously.
when...in my opinion...you should always be doing that.
 

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Does Dak deserved to get signed? No. Is he capable of getting to a SB much less winning it? All signs point to no. He chokes. It's what he does. The rest of the team chokes too but it wouldn't matter because HE chokes. Will he get signed? Probably. Jerry has already shown that he doesn't like to get rid of what isn't working until it hurts his earnings.
 

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Dak can’t do what either of the qbs that played last night can do. I’m not sure anyone is winning SBs while Mahomes is out there
That was a heck of a game last night.Two great qbs ,in my opinion.
 

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so wait... sign the qb to a 4 and possibly 5 year deal, and then draft a qb in the first rd in the following draft? So then that draft pick sits on the bench for 4 years and never plays and then are you supposed to exercise that 5th year option? then sign that guy long term with having never started? bahahahhahahahahahahah, could you imagine this board if that scenario happened?
Yes, because Dak is older and you can train the new young QB for basically peanuts. The Eagles did that very thing ...they signed Wentz and in the same offseason drafted Hurts. You laugh, but their front office is admired just a tad more than ours.
 

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wait.... so you think the Eagles thought they had a franchise qb at the time they drafted Hurts?
The steelers thought the same Trubinsky that stunk in Chicago was a franchise qb?
The bears had drafted their "Franchise qb," a few years ago and realized he stunk. Caleb Wiliams was a very highly regarded prospect... they didnt draft williams when they felt they have a franchise qb.

All of those teams were and are playing the QB roulette game that teams have been doing for 20 or more years. And the Steelers are still playing. How was Pickett for them?
How was Fields?
Hell, Hurts has only had 1 solid season out of his 4. So why didnt the Eagles draft a QB this year?
Wy didnt the steelers draft a QB? Seahawks? Jets?
You asked for more examples than the Packers.

Which there are some . Regardless if they worked out or not .
 

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Yes, because Dak is older and you can train the new young QB for basically peanuts. The Eagles did that very thing ...they signed Wentz and in the same offseason drafted Hurts. You laugh, but their front office is admired just a tad more than ours.
The difference here in Dallas is our ownership and FO apparently have maintained they were totally content with Prescott despite the fans frustrations and disappointment in playoffs.

It’s the only explanation not drafting a potential heir apparent or challenger .
 

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I don't see the Cowboys standing their ground and letting Dak go if they can't come to terms. They will cave, unlike the Vikings who found themselves in a very similar situation with Cousins and were unwilling to give the QB the deal he wanted.
 

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1. Path of least resistance… both sides want the status quo, and the easiest decision for JJ to make is to extend and cross his fingers that Dak will come thru this time

2. No alternative at QB… if there was a viable option to take the torch from Dak on the roster, maybe this decision gets harder. The fact is JJ and the FO have failed to develop anyone in the wings to take the wheel, so extending Dak is inevitable IMO

3. Scape-goat factor… JJ loves his image. Paying Dak makes him look like the good guy and the pressure to deliver shifts over to Dak to make it happen. If Dallas fails to win a SB with Dak, Prescott goes down as a (highly paid) failure.

4. Morale boost…. Signing Dak creates a boost to team morale and establishes some positive press. JJ loves to make a splash and steal headlines. Extension incoming IMO

For the record, I don’t think the chances of Dak winning a SB are very good. Put it at 25%. That said, he is our best shot considering where we are roster wise.

I am preparing for another 4 years of futility and will hope against hope things will break our way.
Cause we love watching Dak lose playoff games. 8/
 

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and that is just having a whole lot of luck because even Jordan loved last year the first eight games he looked like he could be a bust and things just started clicking for him and we haven't seen him more than just last year so that still be to be determined but you're right look at most rosters nobody truly has a plan B at backup,, what I see is there's about 16 teams that have a problem finding a starter and our fan base thinks it's gonna be easy to find a backup to sit three years and we have a Plan B ready and something we're gonna find is gonna turn out to be better than going to the playoffs 5 out of the last eight years being one of the top six teams in wi....lar season winning the division a lot. being one of the top six teams in win percentage in the regular season winning the division a lot.

So how long should we wait once we get rid of Prescott and how patient is this fan base gonna be when we're truly bad for the next 5 years maybe even 10 looking for a quarterback just to get us back right here in this moment again with no guarantee that we're gonna get past the NFC championship game just wanting something different because you're tired of seeing us lose in the playoffs without thinking it could be much worse.....

we're about to play a team that hasn't won a division since 1986... I can't be wrong but the Cleveland Browns are having problem winning divisions and we're upset that we haven't gotten the NFC championship game in 28 years which I understand and I hope we get past soon but changing quarterbacks most likely doesn't get that done we did it with Romo but between Aikman and Romo remember those years?!

There are literally teens struggling for more than a decade to find a quarterback like Prescott they cannot even find a starter and what do they do they get desperate and they trade a bunch of draft picks and pay a bunch of money to a guy like Wilson Watson and Rogers to try to break this insane QB drought..
So after all your looking into the crystal ball and painting such a bleak picture of life without Prescott almost as if he is unreplacable do you just keep rolling him out waiting for a different outcome the current replacement is not on the roster we are currently in a cap mess primarily due to paying Prescott and now you advocate paying him again cuz your scared of the future without him and by your stance your happy with mediocrity
 
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