Why Dak Gets Signed

[Coogiguy03]

deal is probably done, will get told right before the eagles game

 

[blueblood70]

...in your opinion.

No that's what we're discussing,

there isn't a lot of options you got a lot of dead cap money if you let Prescott Walk, and if you really want a quarterback of the future you got to be picking in the top five unless you're lucky..

That is the narrative, that is not my narrative, that is the best shot at getting one of the better quarterbacks is to pick in the top five the only way to do that is to get draft capital and to have a bad season I mean that is what it is to move on from your starter caliber quarterback and start jettison high contracts is so you can end up in the top five organically ,you don't have to tank ,you just have to be bad because you don't have the players to be good...

And in my observation, you're not going to get where you need to go if you get a guy like Dalton or Carr or Baker Mayfield as bridge guys, that just adding 2-3 wins and losing draft position IMHO

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

There’s two reasons he gets signed if we’re able to sign him, it’s because he’s been an outstanding regular season QB that’s gotten us consistently to the playoffs and we have no alternative behind him. We’ll never be able to compete with the QBs we have behind him and good luck finding anything much better on the streets. The Cowboys could be battling for the basement in the NFC East beginning in 2025 if they lose him along with some of the other free agents they have. The quickest way to become a bad team that’s picking in the top 10 of the draft every year is not having a viable QB.

I for one, am relieved we have changed our criteria from "successful in the playoffs" to "successful in the regular season". I suppose 28 years of play off failure forces the issue.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

No that's what we're discussing,

there isn't a lot of options you got a lot of dead cap money if you let Prescott Walk, and if you really want a quarterback of the future you got to be picking in the top five unless you're lucky..

That is the narrative, that is not my narrative, that is the best shot at getting one of the better quarterbacks is to pick in the top five the only way to do that is to get draft capital and to have a bad season I mean that is what it is to move on from your starter caliber quarterback and start jettison high contracts is so you can end up in the top five organically ,you don't have to tank ,you just have to be bad because you don't have the players to be good...

Us...and other teams eat money all the time. Why is THIS so taboo?

 

[Reid1boys]

Montana was actually a 3rd round pick if my memory is correct. Those are the exceptions not the rule .

Is that your position to plan our future on the rare exceptions?

my position is you keep the person that was 2nd in mvp voting and has won 12 games 3 years in a row vs flipping a coin and praying you hit. That is how you plan your future. Saying wel, he hasnt won anything so therefor he never will... that is just stupid.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

12 wins against subpar .500 teams and then getting embarrassed in the playoffs 3 years running.
And you're Ok with that.

playoffs, I agree with. but has at least 13 wins against teams with winning record just in the past 3 years...where did you pull out that stat? and does your hand smell after you pulled it out?

 

[Diehardblues]

my position is you keep the person that was 2nd in mvp voting and has won 12 games 3 years in a row vs flipping a coin and praying you hit. That is how you plan your future. Saying wel, he hasnt won anything so therefor he never will... that is just stupid.

You’re arguing with wrong person. I’m not opposing your position.

You joined in on tail end of discussion in which I was providing opposition to the Cowboys shortfall of releasing Prescott without compensation. As some fans feel that’s our plan to simply let him walk.

 

[DallasEast]

No that's what we're discussing

It is not.

 

[buybuydandavis]

1. Path of least resistance… both sides want the status quo, and the easiest decision for JJ to make is to extend and cross his fingers that Dak will come thru this time

2. No alternative at QB… if there was a viable option to take the torch from Dak on the roster, maybe this decision gets harder. The fact is JJ and the FO have failed to develop anyone in the wings to take the wheel, so extending Dak is inevitable IMO

3. Scape-goat factor… JJ loves his image. Paying Dak makes him look like the good guy and the pressure to deliver shifts over to Dak to make it happen. If Dallas fails to win a SB with Dak, Prescott goes down as a (highly paid) failure.

4. Morale boost…. Signing Dak creates a boost to team morale and establishes some positive press. JJ loves to make a splash and steal headlines. Extension incoming IMO

For the record, I don’t think the chances of Dak winning a SB are very good. Put it at 25%. That said, he is our best shot considering where we are roster wise.

I am preparing for another 4 years of futility and will hope against hope things will break our way.

Dak's current contract this year is 30mil, a good 25mil+ below market.
Jerry should be in no rush to up that to 55mil this year.
All the pressure is on Dak.
And yet Dak didn't have a problem with playing on a 2mil contract instead of taking a deal to extend his rookie contract.
I can totally see no deal happening.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Dak winning a super bowl at 60 mil or so a season is close to 0%.

I don’t have much hope, but he is objectively a top 10 QB in this league.

That will give him a slight chance at least. 25% may be wishful thinking on my part, but 0% is not there either.

Meet in the middle and call it 12-13% lol

 

[blueblood70]

It is not.

actually it is, see all sides, perspective...

Why Dak gets signed,

" Because Jerry decides he does not want to go through what I just described "!!

it circles right back to actually what we're talking about but good try though you can backtrack anytime you want I'm just reading into why Jerry would cave and try to sign him now versus try to sign him in free agency periods or when he goes and gets other bids and tries to match the offer or decides to let him go so Jerry sees this scenario coming and decides that is why dak Prescott gets signed and that is the title of this post we have to look at what's the framework of Jerry's mind and why he would sign Prescott versus letting him walk...

 

[Coogiguy03]

I don’t have much hope, but he is objectively a top 10 QB in this league.

That will give him a slight chance at least. 25% may be wishful thinking on my part, but 0% is not there either.

Meet in the middle and call it 12-13% lol

after he signs he'll have a few good years, and that 60 million won't be enough he'll feel that he's not paid enough

 

[Diehardblues]

I don’t have much hope, but he is objectively a top 10 QB in this league.

That will give him a slight chance at least. 25% may be wishful thinking on my part, but 0% is not there either.

Meet in the middle and call it 12-13% lol

It’s tough to put a number on it. Pure speculative. But we can see why so many are discouraged. And might feel like it’s closer to zero. Just don’t know for sure.

There’s always at least a glimmer of hope until there’s not. Assuming we don’t think we are already doomed with Jethro & Son regardless . Which is even tougher to argue

 

[Reid1boys]

actually it is, see all sides, perspective...

Why Dak gets signed,

" Because Jerry decides he does not want to go through what I just described "!!

it circles right back to actually what we're talking about but good try though you can backtrack anytime you want I'm just reading into why Jerry would cave and try to sign him now versus try to sign him in free agency periods or when he goes and gets other bids and tries to match the offer or decides to let him go so Jerry sees this scenario coming and decides that is why dak Prescott gets signed and that is the title of this post we have to look at what's the framework of Jerry's mind and why he would sign Prescott versus letting him walk...

why is Jerry signing him now considered him "Caving?" He has ALWAYS said they wanted to keep Dak in Dallas.

 

[blueblood70]

why is Jerry signing him now considered him "Caving?" He has ALWAYS said they wanted to keep Dak in Dallas.

Caving in a way that he's deciding to stand pat versus blow this up and start over that would be caving to his allegedly cheap ways as they say around here that all Jerry worries about his money he has a chance to reboot if he gets rid of Prescott he has an excuse to go ahead and trade our best players away and start this all over and tell all the fans I hated on Prescott all these years here you go this is what you wanted I'm saying it's caving to that narrative...

 

[blueblood70]

Dak's current contract this year is 30mil, a good 25mil+ below market.
Jerry should be in no rush to up that to 55mil this year.
All the pressure is on Dak.
And yet Dak didn't have a problem with playing on a 2mil contract instead of taking a deal to extend his rookie contract.
I can totally see no deal happening.

yeah, but it doesn't matter what his salary is his what's his cap hit is. its the biggest in the nfl this year and could probably be lower with new deal.. moneys carried over to 2025 and maybe affords you to sign parsons and Bland...

 

[Diehardblues]

yeah, but it doesn't matter what his salary is his what's his cap hit is. its the biggest in the nfl this year and could probably be lower with new deal.. moneys carried over to 2025 and maybe affords you to sign parsons and Bland...

Yea , most fans focus on the yearly average salary not actual cap hit.

 

[Diehardblues]

why is Jerry signing him now considered him "Caving?" He has ALWAYS said they wanted to keep Dak in Dallas.

Probably cause many have felt Jethro was standing strong not wanting to pay the highest or set Market Price . Even if he knew he’d probably have to.

It’s playing public perception. By waiting he’s hoping will be sympathetic he held out as long as he could but ultimately had to decide if they were All In or not with Dak. So in effect that’s caving.

 

[Rayman70]

Dak gets extended for 1 simple reason. JERRY. He HATES the idea of not being relevant and not extending Dak makes Jerry appear badly. When push comes to shove, Dak's getting extended.

 

[Rayman70]

Probably cause many have felt Jethro was standing strong not wanting to pay the highest or set Market Price . Even if he knew he’d probably have to.

It’s playing public perception. By waiting he’s hoping will be sympathetic he held out as long as he could but ultimately had to decide if they were All In or not with Dak. So in effect that’s caving.

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