Why Dak Gets Signed

[KJJ]

There’s two reasons he gets signed if we’re able to sign him, it’s because he’s been an outstanding regular season QB that’s gotten us consistently to the playoffs and we have no alternative behind him. We’ll never be able to compete with the QBs we have behind him and good luck finding anything much better on the streets. The Cowboys could be battling for the basement in the NFC East beginning in 2025 if they lose him along with some of the other free agents they have. The quickest way to become a bad team that’s picking in the top 10 of the draft every year is not having a viable QB.

 

[Flamma]

First of all how many Baker mayfield's are out there available and how much money did he get? And I don't feel like doing this this morning but how much is Prescott's dead cap if he's not here and then how much money do you gotta spend for a guy like Baker Mayfield and can that guy have that one season like Baker Mayfield because right now that's a one off.... And again I'm not doing a lot of research on this but I believe he's in an awfully weak division but you pay a guy like Baker Mayfield plus Prescott's dead cat for not being here in the next two years isn't that the same thing as just keeping Prescott because we've been to the playoffs 5 out of the last eight years with Prescott and while people call that futile and average it's not average it's way above average having a top six team is not average..

Baker makes 33M a year. Dak is a 40M dead cap if he goes. Remember, I'm just talking about making the playoffs with a good roster, not so great QB. Minshew would apply as well. There are several QBs like that. Put a good team around them, and they can get you a 9-8 record.

I think in this case you have to look at the Cowboys needing to start Trey Lance and if he turns out to be terrible you're gonna get a high draft pick and you start over with a young guy but you cannot use a middle of the road veteran like Baker Mayfield because you have to pay them and when you add it up with the dead cap it's the same you have to go full young full cheap

Well of course. Look, we haven't been a SB contender with Dak. I'll admit, I did have high hopes in 2016. But ever since then, anytime we made the playoffs it was just a formality. These last three 12-5 teams reminded me of the 2006 Cowboys. Good, but not that good. We probably don't win that game even if Romo doesn't fumble the snap.

 

[Flamma]

Is this a trick question?

Not a trick question. What hurts more?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Yes! They bring out the worse in me. I'm really a nice guy.
Woof, Woof!

 

[blueblood70]

Baker makes 33M a year. Dak is a 40M dead cap if he goes. Remember, I'm just talking about making the playoffs with a good roster, not so great QB. Minshew would apply as well. There are several QBs like that. Put a good team around them, and they can get you a 9-8 record.


Well of course. Look, we haven't been a SB contender with Dak. I'll admit, I did have high hopes in 2016. But ever since then, anytime we made the playoffs it was just a formality. These last three 12-5 teams reminded me of the 2006 Cowboys. Good, but not that good. We probably don't win that game even if Romo doesn't fumble the snap.

So you want to pay $73 million towards the quarterback position in 2025 for the sake of making a change?? lmao umm NOPE.. None of that makes sense at all you need to reboot you need to start over and I'm telling you getting a mid-level quarterback for $33 million a year versus just keeping Prescott would be dumb, it makes no sense ,whatsoever.. Because again if you add up the dead cap and the new guy's salary might as well keep Prescott, because Prescott clearly a better player, clearly ,and I'm sorry it may not be a big gap to you,

Daks never been part of a losing season, has so many top 3 ranking on O, and I'm not even going through the rest of his resume , that's all I need to hear except for the last three years last year, I mean you need a reminder that there is a difference and you can say we're not a Super Bowl contender but Baker Mayfield hasn't been playoff 5 out of the last eight years but Prescott has Prescott's winning divisions on a regular basis that's what you have to do to be a contender Baker doesn't make us a contender so yes we are a contender with Prescott that's where you're clueless you have to be where we are in order to even have a shot and Baker was not doing that his one off year i'm sorry that's not the work for me for his cost.

I'm OK if you want to make a change, literally that's OK the change has to be all or nothing, you start over and get a rookie quarterback or a quarterback on a cheap veteran salary in order to bridge the gap be bad for a few years and have a couple top five choices and quarterbacks that's the only way in order to do that you need graph capital that means you blow it all up we're not good enough and not in the right position to bring in a guy like Baker Mayfield got that money versus keeping Prescott versus a rookie deal you literally got to go with a rookie or a veteran under a veteran min deal..​

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So if you wanna lose that's OK if you wanna make a change at quarterback that is OK but you bringing up Baker Mayfield as an option just makes no fiscal sense at all not here not in the position we're in you need to do what The Jets and other teams have done over the years looking for a quarterback and keep finding that you can't replace them and you end up back with Prescott anyway but you need to trade away all your assets in order to move up into the top three and pick quarterbacks.. you dont get a baker type for that cost to win 3 more games and lose that top 3 option..NOPE!​

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[DallasEast]

If we do sign Dak, the 2025 1st round pick MUST be a QB. M-U-S-T. Otherwise we'll be right back here in about 2-3 years...with no SB, more "almost-MVP" trophies and a rising cap hit for a choker.

Your opinion. It is shared by a sizeable number of fellow fans.

As always, the only question is whether Jerry Jones agrees with someone else's opinion. Drafting a quarterback is the issue, so one should consider how he sees things:

• He sees a first-round quarterback draft pick already on his roster.
• He sees far less need to invest first round draft capital at a position next April than when he addressed the position 13 months ago.
• He sees and hears those questioning his ability to make effective GM decisions, which irks notably him.

Anyone's opinion is worthwhile. I put my expectations through The Jones Filter (patent pending). That way, I can *predict* whether Jones shall or shall not likely pull the trigger on a M-U-S-T as he sees it during any particular round.

My Magic 8 Ball, I mean, The Jones Filter says 'No Way' to a 2025 first-round drafted quarterback. Modern technology is so glitchy nowadays, so who knows?

 

[Reid1boys]

Rodgers was a 24th round pick I believe . Love was later as well.

You dont have to reach for a QB in the draft when you’re not desperate .

And yes, no sure things anywhere in 1st round.

There are always exceptions... Montana and Brady were what, 6th rd picks. So why doesnt everyone have a Montana and Brady on their roster?

 

[Reid1boys]

If Falcons suk he’d get fired anyway.

Doubling down on QB especially with an aging and injury riddled Cousins appears to be smarter than most want to admit.

The GM brought in a QB which can help them win now and drafted some insurance in the event he doesn’t while potentially providing more hope for the future if he has one .

couldnt disagree more. If you think Cousins is aging and injury prone, you are a FOOL to give him that deal. Just draft the kid and roll with him.

 

[Diehardblues]

There are always exceptions... Montana and Brady were what, 6th rd picks. So why doesnt everyone have a Montana and Brady on their roster?

Montana was actually a 3rd round pick if my memory is correct. Those are the exceptions not the rule .

Is that your position to plan our future on the rare exceptions?

 

[Diehardblues]

couldnt disagree more. If you think Cousins is aging and injury prone, you are a FOOL to give him that deal. Just draft the kid and roll with him.

Perhaps they were a fool. But I’d call it doubling down. Sign someone proven who can help you now while providing some insurance and potential future.

 

[KingCorcoran]

If they resign him they damn well better remove the trade restrictions element

What if he demands a no trade clause? I’m not sure why fans think the Cowboys are somehow in a position to “damn well better” do anything in regard to a subsequent contract with Prescott. Jerry Jones has all of two options with Dak. Yes or no. That’s it.

 

[Cowboys5217]

What if he demands a no trade clause? I’m not sure why fans think the Cowboys are somehow in a position to “damn well better” do anything in regard to a subsequent contract with Prescott. Jerry Jones has all of two options with Dak. Yes or no. That’s it.

Are you obtuse on purpose?

When someone on here uses a phrase like "damn well better", it isn't like they think they can call the shots, or force Jerry into anything. They are merely emphasizing how much the think something needs to be done.

 

[blueblood70]

Your opinion. It is shared by a sizeable number of fellow fans.

As always, the only question is whether Jerry Jones agrees with someone else's opinion. Drafting a quarterback is the issue, so one should consider how he sees things:

• He sees a first-round quarterback draft pick already on his roster.
• He sees far less need to invest first round draft capital at a position next April than when he addressed the position 13 months ago.
• He sees and hears those questioning his ability to make effective GM decisions, which irks notably him.

Anyone's opinion is worthwhile. I put my expectations through The Jones Filter (patent pending). That way, I can *predict* whether Jones shall or shall not likely pull the trigger on a M-U-S-T as he sees it during any particular round.

My Magic 8 Ball, I mean, The Jones Filter says 'No Way' to a 2025 first-round drafted quarterback. Modern technology is so glitchy nowadays, so who knows?

That depends on how the season goes you're right how could he look and want to take a first round picture if he believes you're going to win another 11:50 games be in the playoffs and we'd be picking what around 20th that's not where you need to be as history will tell you outside of dumb luck you need to be in the top three to even have a shot and then in those cases one of those quarterbacks that you happen to take you have to hit on and what is the definition of hit on?

Literally 95 quarterbacks have been drafted since 2016 and only one of them has won a Super Bowl and that would be the man the legend Patrick Mahomes the only elite quarterback in the NFL the rest of them they're not doing any better than Prescott...

So first you have to put yourself in a position to get one of those quarterbacks and this next two or three drafts what are these names that are going to be locked generational types even say 75% chance there you hit on and they're what you expect them to be?

That's quite conundrum to be in ,

now if you're saying that Jerry is looking at 2025 if he doesn't sign Prescott as one of those years you organically tank like not do it on purpose just trade all your assets bring in a rookie quarterback or a veteran on a veteran minimum contract or start a guy like Trey Lance knowing that you're probably only going to win six games or less and knowing that you're going to be in the top three and then you can pick your quarterback in the 2026 draft?

 

[Ranching]

 

[KingCorcoran]

Are you obtuse on purpose?

When someone on here uses a phrase like "damn well better", it isn't like they think they can call the shots, or force Jerry into anything. They are merely emphasizing how much the think something needs to be done.

No. The comment indicates the notion that somehow Jerry controls what Dak is going to do. It’s nonsense. Approaching Todd France with we want to sign Dak, but only if we have the right to trade him, will result in Jerry getting dial tone.

 

[DallasEast]

now if you're saying that Jerry is looking at 2025 if he doesn't sign Prescott as one of those years you organically tank like not do it on purpose just trade all your assets bring in a rookie quarterback or a veteran on a veteran minimum contract or start a guy like Trey Lance knowing that you're probably only going to win six games or less and knowing that you're going to be in the top three and then you can pick your quarterback in the 2026 draft?

I did not say tank. I did not suggest tank. There are no previous comments made by me on CowboysZone.com proposing tanking.

In the past, I did make several sarcastic animated gifs regarding other members proposing or suggesting tanking. Let me know if you would like to see those gifs posted again.

 

[blueblood70]

I did not say tank. I did not suggest tank. There are no previous comments made by me on CowboysZone.com proposing tanking.

In the past, I did make several sarcastic animated gifs regarding other members proposing or suggesting tanking. Let me know if you would like to see those gifs posted again.

No I'm saying it I'm saying the only way we have a shot to find a good quarterback is to organically take meaning use a Jag at quarterback in order to finish in the top five organically I said organically tanked that means you're gonna lose by what you put on the field you don't have to try to lose that would be what they need to do in 2025 in order to get a high draft pick in 2026 that's what I'm saying I didn't say you said anything I'm saying that would be Jerry's only option to not do much with 2025 it would be to get into that group...

 

[5Stars]

No I'm saying it I'm saying the only way we have a shot to find a good quarterback is to organically take meaning use a Jag at quarterback in order to finish in the top five organically I said organically tanked that means you're gonna lose by what you put on the field you don't have to try to lose that would be what they need to do in 2025 in order to get a high draft pick in 2026 that's what I'm saying I didn't say you said anything I'm saying that would be Jerry's only option to not do much with 2025 it would be to get into that group...

What?

adverb

organically

1. 1.
   from or in connection with living matter.
   "organically enriched soil"
   
   
2. 2.
   without the use of chemical fertilizers, pesticides, or other artificial chemicals.
   "organically grown crops"

 

[DallasEast]

I'm saying that would be Jerry's only option to not do much with 2025

...in your opinion.

 

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