Why Dak Got Paid

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It sure seems like there is a lot of truth in that post.
it's not HATRED its displeasure, the guy has been here for how many years now???? Fans feel like he's robbing this team with his nice charm, high stat games not in situations where we actually need them to be high and get a win. If you hate a player you're not a football fan, these players don't control our lives, nor do they feed our families and pay our bills. It's displeasure, it's not even all his fault, blame Jerry etc
 

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Straight from Cam Newton's 4th and 1.....

Before the season started and QB evals were being done Dak v. other players, notably this one.

We're comparing Dak to another QB with similar stats over their last 50 starts. That's over 3 years' worth of stats. Remember, this was before the season started. Here we go:

Dak Other QB
W/L 33-17 36-14 practically a wash
Pass TDs 105 105
INTs 38 39
Pass Rtg 101.3 98.9
Yds/Att 7.6 7.5
Comp % 68.4 66.8


Many of you know where this is going, though some may not. The other quarterback's stats are those of Patrick Mahomes.

A QB's legacy is built in the post-season, and I won't argue with that. I will argue that PM had better offenses every year, while we were supposed to have a better defense than KC.

Point the finger wherever you want, but the stats don't lie. Football is a 22 man game, and I'd argue that Dak was doing his job. Like him, don't like him, I don't care. Just remember that there are very few QBs that match up to him that also happen to be available.

Somehow Mahomes has always had a running game. Going into this season, it was obvious that we had problems at the RB position, and that was a killer.

Food for thought as we head into the off-season and begin building our team for next year.

Until next year......

(formatted this right before I posted. It's whack once I hit post)
and he did this without a strong run game the last three years the offensive line inconsistent and Mike McCarthy and that offensive staff not very creative and let's not get started on not having a true #2 target whether it's a top tight end or #2 wide receiver I mean literally people wanna blow smoke up Joe's **** over there in Cincinnati but that dudes had some 3D at wide receiver and some decent tight ends now a better run game at times he may not have a defense over there in Cincinnati but he sure had a dynamic set of skill players to throw to I'm not taking anything away from him but let's be clear you can't have it both ways blame Prescott for everything but then at the same time say we have one of the worst GM's in the nfl???


I agree with you it's a team game I think quarterback's not our problem here and it would be a lot better if we had a run game similar to the 90s or the 70s and you're right that's where I'm going with this I'd rather we use those examples when Troy and Roger never had to carry this team into playoffs because they rolled in with one of the top run games one of the top defenses one of the top coaching Staffs in this league and they could always depend on not having to be perfect and not having expectations that if things went wrong, they gopt blamed..​

Don't get me started on the crowd that somehow are blind to mistakes only when it comes to putting down Romo or Prescott but Danny white was not a good quarterback this man was carried by exactly what we're talking about Danny white had one of the worst touchdown interception ratios it was almost even in the regular season and it was upside down in the playoffs meaning he threw more interceptions and made more mistakes than scoring points not scoring touchdowns and somehow they end up what in three straight NFC championship games look like they were competing hard I'm pretty sure Danny white was the problem but nobody's gonna say that because they wanna put down our quarterbacks in a time where they can't depend I'm having help in recent years from their GM and their coaching staff literally some of the most underwhelming rosters to work with because of our GM and because of the schemes and the coaching staff that they chose...

People are going to come in here and try to say well Prescott through some interceptions early in those games , the defense held San Francisco to under 19 points twice!!

no they don't want to go in and tell you that the offensive line had 11 penalties in one game and we didn't get a lot of calls and the defense while it looked like they were playing well in one of those halves they gave up 10 yards per carry and SF owned the time of possessions, basically keeping the Dallas Cowboys offense off the field..

I don't care what the score said people watching that as well as when diggs a sure interception that could have changed the game, and also didn't hit kittles and allow him to catch that bobbling ball..

we can go back into all these games and then also point out they were under 3 yards per carry in both games they were playing behind the chains they were playing one-dimensional ball people weren't getting open but how come you're going to point to these interceptions when a guy like Matthew Stafford can lead the league in interceptions he can throw 2 interceptions in a Super Bowl and still win the damn Super Bowl I can tell you why Aaron Donald and that defense made sure that they got the ball back twice after those mistakes and won the game..

This happens quite often in the NFL when a team steps up even when they're not playing perfectly and someone makes a play somewhere but at the Dallas Cowboys have never recently had any of those plays made those special catches those crazy bounces that you end up getting that break you need it's just never there it's the team that's the problem it's not the quarterback alone you can't play one-dimensional football and expect wins in bigger games.

I mean my Texas Longhorn team found out this year and both Georgia games that that's exactly what happens when you put everything on the quarterback and then you have no run game and your kicker can't make kicks and your defense gives up just enough plays to lose the game even though they played well all game they couldn't hold out and they nearly lost the Arizona State game because of the same stuff it's rare you win a big game against a team that's almost your equal when you're not making any special plays and when you're making the most mistakes and stop blaming the quarterback for this..
 

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Straight from Cam Newton's 4th and 1.....

Before the season started and QB evals were being done Dak v. other players, notably this one.

We're comparing Dak to another QB with similar stats over their last 50 starts. That's over 3 years' worth of stats. Remember, this was before the season started. Here we go:

Dak Other QB
W/L 33-17 36-14 practically a wash
Pass TDs 105 105
INTs 38 39
Pass Rtg 101.3 98.9
Yds/Att 7.6 7.5
Comp % 68.4 66.8


Many of you know where this is going, though some may not. The other quarterback's stats are those of Patrick Mahomes.

A QB's legacy is built in the post-season, and I won't argue with that. I will argue that PM had better offenses every year, while we were supposed to have a better defense than KC.

Point the finger wherever you want, but the stats don't lie. Football is a 22 man game, and I'd argue that Dak was doing his job. Like him, don't like him, I don't care. Just remember that there are very few QBs that match up to him that also happen to be available.

Somehow Mahomes has always had a running game. Going into this season, it was obvious that we had problems at the RB position, and that was a killer.

Food for thought as we head into the off-season and begin building our team for next year.

Until next year......

(formatted this right before I posted. It's whack once I hit post)
It really is simple. Its about moments in crucial games where the QB makes a difference in the outcome of the game. This is how a QB is remembered. Dak needs to elevate the team to greatness to be considered a great QB.
 

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Bottom line, Dak was regressing in 22 and he had an awful showing against GB again in the playoffs. We could have let him play out the final year of his contract this season before making a decision but didn't and instead making him the highest paid player in history and low and behold his regression continued. Now we have a mediocre at best QB with a crippling cap charge that has less talent around him to make him look even decent. We are screwed.
agreed, it was best for both to move on. but Jerry doesn't think that way.
he milked the contract negotiations and kept it in the media and the fans front page all summer. literally signing an hour before the first game of the season.
he had no intention of making the team better in FA, because if he did, he would get the contract done and move on to other gaps in the team.
he was thinking about profitability, Dak was top 10 in Jersey sales in NFL and that was to him and investment with good ROI (at the time, based on 2023).

and the cap is not crippling.
I did the comparison to philly, detroit and GB and we are better off than them.

our top 6 contracts are about 167M average. Philly is about 193!!! and detroit at 170 and GB at 157.

yet they have all better competitive teams than us. Goff got 55M average, Dak 60. you want to say he is not good, he is not worth the money, etc. that's fine. but the contract is not crippling. if 5M average per year is crippling this team to where detroit is 15-2 and #1 seed and we are sucking salt, then Jerry sucks way more than we give him credit.

we can sign any talent we want. if we want. we can easily get to 70M cap space in 25, but what will jerry do? will he use it? probably not. we will be in the 4th and 5th wave of FA...
 

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Straight from Cam Newton's 4th and 1.....

Before the season started and QB evals were being done Dak v. other players, notably this one.

We're comparing Dak to another QB with similar stats over their last 50 starts. That's over 3 years' worth of stats. Remember, this was before the season started. Here we go:

Dak Other QB
W/L 33-17 36-14 practically a wash
Pass TDs 105 105
INTs 38 39
Pass Rtg 101.3 98.9
Yds/Att 7.6 7.5
Comp % 68.4 66.8


Many of you know where this is going, though some may not. The other quarterback's stats are those of Patrick Mahomes.

A QB's legacy is built in the post-season, and I won't argue with that. I will argue that PM had better offenses every year, while we were supposed to have a better defense than KC.

Point the finger wherever you want, but the stats don't lie. Football is a 22 man game, and I'd argue that Dak was doing his job. Like him, don't like him, I don't care. Just remember that there are very few QBs that match up to him that also happen to be available.

Somehow Mahomes has always had a running game. Going into this season, it was obvious that we had problems at the RB position, and that was a killer.

Food for thought as we head into the off-season and begin building our team for next year.

Until next year......

(formatted this right before I posted. It's whack once I hit post)
Realistically, this Offseason we need the following to fix the offense IF mike stays.
RB - we need 2 of them a work horse and someone Dynamic
WR - we need a Full Time Full Fledged Starter on the outside, someone with Size and can break away from people. Bring back Turpin give him the slot roll and Return he's dynamic enough to do that we saw it randomly though out the year.
OT - OMG we need to move Guyton to RT and get a LT or get a new RT we were getting burnt out there.
3 positions to come from FA or Draft.

Defense thats another story for another thread.
 

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People don’t hate the man.

Certain people don’t like him as the quarterback of their favorite team because he can’t get them over the hump.

And I’m one of those fans.

There’s enough freaking HATE in the world.

He’s just the quarterback of the now defunct America's Team.
this is the fairest statement, yet there are those who spend their entire time just dumping and dumping and only posting on Dak and only dak and nothing but Dak.
when some of these people say he is garbage, who doesn't belong as a back up in NFL, blah blah...then yeah, its getting really close to hate if not there already.
 
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Stats . . . We talking about Stats . . .
Yea, but stats don't lie! Straw men arguments do though, let's compare numbers vs playoff teams when the QB is under duress and having to consistently beat zone coverages. That's when Dak spits the bit and folds like a wet taco, Mahomes shines in those moments, case closed.

Out of fairness I will concede that Andy builds balanced teams with strong defenses, Jerry does not.
 

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Straight from Cam Newton's 4th and 1.....

Before the season started and QB evals were being done Dak v. other players, notably this one.

We're comparing Dak to another QB with similar stats over their last 50 starts. That's over 3 years' worth of stats. Remember, this was before the season started. Here we go:

Dak Other QB
W/L 33-17 36-14 practically a wash
Pass TDs 105 105
INTs 38 39
Pass Rtg 101.3 98.9
Yds/Att 7.6 7.5
Comp % 68.4 66.8


Many of you know where this is going, though some may not. The other quarterback's stats are those of Patrick Mahomes.

A QB's legacy is built in the post-season, and I won't argue with that. I will argue that PM had better offenses every year, while we were supposed to have a better defense than KC.

Point the finger wherever you want, but the stats don't lie. Football is a 22 man game, and I'd argue that Dak was doing his job. Like him, don't like him, I don't care. Just remember that there are very few QBs that match up to him that also happen to be available.

Somehow Mahomes has always had a running game. Going into this season, it was obvious that we had problems at the RB position, and that was a killer.

Food for thought as we head into the off-season and begin building our team for next year.

Until next year......

(formatted this right before I posted. It's whack once I hit post)
That's why a real professional watches players and sees how they handle pressure.
Only unprofessional evaluators look at stats.
It doesn't matter how far a quarterback can throw or how hard he throws if he gets jelly legged under pressure or during intense situations.
Talent evaluation comes from understanding the game and seeing how a player responds in different situations.
That's why Jimmy Johnson said he looked for playmakers- guys who made a difference when the game was on the line.
Stats are for fantasy football.
 

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The problem is people hate Prescott. And it has nothing to do with him being a Dallas cowboy quarterback. They just don’t like him. He could win a Super Bowl and they would hate him.
It has everything to do with him being a Dallas Cowboys QB. Where have you been at? As far as Dak (the person), I'm on board with what he does for the community and his religious beliefs, etc. It's the QB Dak I despise.
 

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Bottom line, Dak was regressing in 22 and he had an awful showing against GB again in the playoffs. We could have let him play out the final year of his contract this season before making a decision but didn't and instead making him the highest paid player in history and low and behold his regression continued. Now we have a mediocre at best QB with a crippling cap charge that has less talent around him to make him look even decent. We are screwed.

This
 

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The problem is people hate Prescott. And it has nothing to do with him being a Dallas cowboy quarterback. They just don’t like him. He could win a Super Bowl and they would hate him.
Too bad Dak can;t give us a shot to test your...theory.

I don't know what's up with this "hate" accusation shtuff. Talk about some condescending sheesh. Especially the "not about football". Very telling about YOU.
So you think Dak has played SO WELL that he should be de facto adored in every regard and nary a single criticism. :huh::thumbdown:
 
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