Why Dak Got Paid

GINeric

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What happens when he doesn’t have all stars all around him basically when he eats up $60m of the cap.

Bottom league average.
And that's a fair statement.

With that said, name me a quarterback who had no stars around him and won Superbowls? If you can't name any, then why is Dak expected to do what no other quarterback has done?
 

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Dak's 2024 stats (out of 39 starting qb's that played at least 6 games this season):
  • TD % - 3.8% (29th/39)
  • INT % - 2.8% (11th highest/39)
  • Success Rate - 45.3% (23rd)
  • Air Yards/Att - 6.43 (27th)
  • Passer Rating - 86.0 (27th)
  • QBR - 45.8 (33rd)
In what world does this scream "consistently be in the top 10" to you?
did you really cite 8 games of a 9 year career to argue consistency? lol.
 

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Bottom line, Dak was regressing in 22 and he had an awful showing against GB again in the playoffs. We could have let him play out the final year of his contract this season before making a decision but didn't and instead making him the highest paid player in history and low and behold his regression continued. Now we have a mediocre at best QB with a crippling cap charge that has less talent around him to make him look even decent. We are screwed.
Dak was regressing in '22? Why didn't you state why? Agenda get in your way much??? Of course it did......as usual.

Why didn't you bring up '23? Oooh, because Dak's stats in '23 absolutely destroy your whole comment.

Just shut it already with your bs.
 

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Straight from Cam Newton's 4th and 1.....

Before the season started and QB evals were being done Dak v. other players, notably this one.

We're comparing Dak to another QB with similar stats over their last 50 starts. That's over 3 years' worth of stats. Remember, this was before the season started. Here we go:

Dak Other QB
W/L 33-17 36-14 practically a wash
Pass TDs 105 105
INTs 38 39
Pass Rtg 101.3 98.9
Yds/Att 7.6 7.5
Comp % 68.4 66.8


Many of you know where this is going, though some may not. The other quarterback's stats are those of Patrick Mahomes.

A QB's legacy is built in the post-season, and I won't argue with that. I will argue that PM had better offenses every year, while we were supposed to have a better defense than KC.

Point the finger wherever you want, but the stats don't lie. Football is a 22 man game, and I'd argue that Dak was doing his job. Like him, don't like him, I don't care. Just remember that there are very few QBs that match up to him that also happen to be available.

Somehow Mahomes has always had a running game. Going into this season, it was obvious that we had problems at the RB position, and that was a killer.

Food for thought as we head into the off-season and begin building our team for next year.

Until next year......

(formatted this right before I posted. It's whack once I hit post)
I knew where this was going before I read the post. It was stat driven. Yeah, stats don't lie, but they don't show context either. Anything without context is at the very least misleading. Statistics throughout history have always been used to mislead, why should QB contracts be any different?
 

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Really wanted that rookie year performance to continue. It did at times, but, a regression to the mean was inevitable for various reasons.
Nothing wrong with that belief. Dak Prescott performed well-enough that he should have been strongly considered as the franchise future at the position.

However, the question (or at least my eternal question) is whether he had done enough, in such an extremely brief period, to have been made the team's permanent starter in 2016. Not 2017 and forward but 2016.

That is not hindsight in my case. A search of this site would reveal these questions were posted as forethought in September and October 2016. No rookie quarterback in the Super Bowl era...

Oh well. I have been a broken record as long as Team Chemistry Euphoria has been around. :laugh:

:(
 

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I believe him, he’s not playing for the money. he didn’t twist Jerry’s arm. He’d be stupid not to take it and I’m glad he did. People’s excuse that hurt the team, that’s baloney. We have a ton of money.
Of course he'd be stupid not to take it. The funny part is you believing him when he says he doesn't play for money. Get back to me in a year or two when his contract goes nuclear after being restructured into the last years of his deal and tell me it didn't hurt the team.
 

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Of course he'd be stupid not to take it. The funny part is you believing him when he says he doesn't play for money. Get back to me in a year or two when his contract goes nuclear after being restructured into the last years of his deal and tell me it didn't hurt the team.
When you know, professional athletes. And they explained to you why they would play for the money or not the money. You would have a better understanding. I believe initially he would’ve played without the contract big money. But screw Jerry at the end it was the money and it should be
but the funny part is fans thinks it stops us from signing other players. And it doesn’t. Jerry doesn’t want them anyway anyways.
 

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Of course he'd be stupid not to take it. The funny part is you believing him when he says he doesn't play for money. Get back to me in a year or two when his contract goes nuclear after being restructured into the last years of his deal and tell me it didn't hurt the team.
I believe he was stalling during negotiations, wasn't he?
 

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When you know, professional athletes. And they explained to you why they would play for the money or not the money. You would have a better understanding. I believe initially he would’ve played without the contract big money. But screw Jerry at the end it was the money and it should be
but the funny part is fans thinks it stops us from signing other players. And it doesn’t. Jerry doesn’t want them anyway anyways.
Easy to say you would play without the money while getting paid the money. Can't believe how expensive these contracts have gotten with all these athletes willing to play for nothing. Stupid owners.
 

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He got paid because Jerry likes to live in the past and on (false) hope since his contextual talent judging capabilities are subpar.

QBs who haven’t accomplished anything love padding stats for their big payday.
 

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Straight from Cam Newton's 4th and 1.....

Before the season started and QB evals were being done Dak v. other players, notably this one.

We're comparing Dak to another QB with similar stats over their last 50 starts. That's over 3 years' worth of stats. Remember, this was before the season started. Here we go:

Dak Other QB
W/L 33-17 36-14 practically a wash
Pass TDs 105 105
INTs 38 39
Pass Rtg 101.3 98.9
Yds/Att 7.6 7.5
Comp % 68.4 66.8


Many of you know where this is going, though some may not. The other quarterback's stats are those of Patrick Mahomes.

A QB's legacy is built in the post-season, and I won't argue with that. I will argue that PM had better offenses every year, while we were supposed to have a better defense than KC.

Point the finger wherever you want, but the stats don't lie. Football is a 22 man game, and I'd argue that Dak was doing his job. Like him, don't like him, I don't care. Just remember that there are very few QBs that match up to him that also happen to be available.

Somehow Mahomes has always had a running game. Going into this season, it was obvious that we had problems at the RB position, and that was a killer.

Food for thought as we head into the off-season and begin building our team for next year.

Until next year......

(formatted this right before I posted. It's whack once I hit post)
this is what you get when people dont understand what stats are for.

what a waste of hdd space for that kind of rubbish.
 

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Dak got paid because it was the easiest path for the jones boys, who dont want to work very hard in their old age !
Jerry sees dak as his creation, and so will stick with him regardless .
Dak may be here as qb #1 until he is 45 , so another 15 years lol.

MM may be another decade long HC !
 

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Straight from Cam Newton's 4th and 1.....

Before the season started and QB evals were being done Dak v. other players, notably this one.

We're comparing Dak to another QB with similar stats over their last 50 starts. That's over 3 years' worth of stats. Remember, this was before the season started. Here we go:

Dak Other QB
W/L 33-17 36-14 practically a wash
Pass TDs 105 105
INTs 38 39
Pass Rtg 101.3 98.9
Yds/Att 7.6 7.5
Comp % 68.4 66.8


Many of you know where this is going, though some may not. The other quarterback's stats are those of Patrick Mahomes.

A QB's legacy is built in the post-season, and I won't argue with that. I will argue that PM had better offenses every year, while we were supposed to have a better defense than KC.

Point the finger wherever you want, but the stats don't lie. Football is a 22 man game, and I'd argue that Dak was doing his job. Like him, don't like him, I don't care. Just remember that there are very few QBs that match up to him that also happen to be available.

Somehow Mahomes has always had a running game. Going into this season, it was obvious that we had problems at the RB position, and that was a killer.

Food for thought as we head into the off-season and begin building our team for next year.

Until next year......

(formatted this right before I posted. It's whack once I hit post)
The biggest stat is the playoffs. An elite QB makes the plays when it count. Not just garbage time. Not one GM except Jerry would take Dak over Patrick Mahomes.
 

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The problem is people hate Prescott. And it has nothing to do with him being a Dallas cowboy quarterback. They just don’t like him. He could win a Super Bowl and they would hate him.
Now you’re just talking out your bum. I don’t like Prescott’s contract - but it’s not personal. I’d wager many fans feel similarly. You say Dak ‘could win a Super Bowl and they would hate him.’ For me, it’d go a long way towards reconciling me with his ridiculous contract. A long way.
 

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Dak got paid because it was the easiest path for the jones boys, who dont want to work very hard in their old age !
Jerry sees dak as his creation, and so will stick with him regardless .
Dak may be here as qb #1 until he is 45 , so another 15 years lol.

MM may be another decade long HC !
Your absolutely correct. Jerry looks at Dak as the guy he found in the 4th. He wasn't letting him go to another team no matter what. The Cowboys are a marketing company.
 

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The problem is people hate Prescott. And it has nothing to do with him being a Dallas cowboy quarterback. They just don’t like him. He could win a Super Bowl and they would hate him.
Winning Super Bowls covers a lot of sins. Eli Manning was an average QB, but his team won two Super Bowls and now Manning is a Hall of Fame candidate. All of his mediocrity gets forgotten because the team around him was strong enough to weather his mistakes and ride his successes.

One of my biggest arguments against those who criticized Romo was that Romo couldn't afford to make any mistakes. He didn't have the team around him to overcome them, so when he made a mistake, it became bigger than it was for a team that could overcome QB errors. I feel similarly about Prescott. Every QB has throws they miss, fumbles and interceptions, great teams overcome them and give their QBs a chance to do the same.
 
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