why didn't we pick Steven Jackson or Chris Johnson?

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Didnt we pick Steven Jackson when we could have? what a beast he is...

Didn't we pick Chris Johnson when we could have?

Two future hall of famers that we let slip right through our hands!

Do you realize how good we would be with either of these guys right now!
 

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STSINAZ;3644045 said:
Didnt we pick Steven Jackson when we could have? what a beast he is...

Didn't we pick Chris Johnson when we could have?

Two future hall of famers that we let slip right through our hands!

Do you realize how good we would be with either of these guys right now!


Oh so if we had Chris Johnson, instead of Felix Jones, you're saying that Garrett would run the ball more and the team would go 98% Chris Johnson instead of using 2-3 backs in a rotation?

See that's the problem with folks like you when you watch Chris Johnson. Chris Johnson is THE MAN in the Titans offense.

he doesn't share snaps much at all with other backs and they're a run oriented offense. If he were here and Felix there Felix would be the guy getting all those shots, and making loads of big plays, and Chris would have been here for 2+ years behind Marion Barber only touching the ball 7-10 times a game instead of 20+ times.

You can't really compare the two situations cause Chris Johnson is their focal point in Tennessee and Felix isn't here in Dallas.
 

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did steven jackson have injury problems in college? maybe thats a reason why they passed on him but he always seems to be injured.

I dont know if he has a history of injuries or not but its a possibility.
 

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fffiasco;3644049 said:
did steven jackson have injury problems in college? maybe thats a reason why they passed on him but he always seems to be injured.

There were concerns about his back, IIRC. Alot of people (and apparently teams) thought that his body wouldn't be able to keep up with his running style.

I was one of them :eek::
 

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They are good backs, but it's a little premature to say they are future hall of famers. Let's see them do this consistently for at least 5 more years until that can be talked about.
 

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Parcells said he passed on Steven Jackson because he wanted a back with more potential for "home runs" -- long runs. He said Julius Jones had more.

We passed on Chris Johnson because Felix Jones showed more all-around ability than just speed. And as has been mentioned, if we had drafted Johnson, he wouldn't be getting more than about 12 carries per game, and Felix likely would be a Pro Bowl back for the Titans, and fans would be crying about not drafting him.
 

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Yes, "Vision" ... "Second Level" is why Felix was drafted (accd. to Jerry, if I remember right) ... BS

But the NFL game is so fast now that that stuff is baloney. You have no time for shake and bake, setting up tacklers. No more Red Grange or Gale Sayers. Even Emmett would lose an advantage nowadays.

You are either fast enough to hit the hole/corner and powerful enough to run through tackles, or you aren't. Holes ain't very big now and they close faster than ever.

Wade was impressed with Johnson's speed but Felix won out. In the back of my mind I kinda remember Johnson having some real or perceived character issues is why he was maybe down our draft board. But my mind might be playing tricks on me homey.
 

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AdamJT13;3644126 said:
Parcells said he passed on Steven Jackson because he wanted a back with more potential for "home runs" -- long runs. He said Julius Jones had more.

We passed on Chris Johnson because Felix Jones showed more all-around ability than just speed. And as has been mentioned, if we had drafted Johnson, he wouldn't be getting more than about 12 carries per game, and Felix likely would be a Pro Bowl back for the Titans, and fans would be crying about not drafting him.

Parcells was an idiot. I think there's still a crater in my basement floor from when my jaw hit it when we traded out of the spot where we should have taken Jackson.
 

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igtmfo;3644137 said:
Yes, "Vision" ... "Second Level" is why Felix was drafted (accd. to Jerry, if I remember right) ... BS

But the NFL game is so fast now that that stuff is baloney. You have no time for shake and bake, setting up tacklers. No more Red Grange or Gale Sayers. Even Emmett would lose an advantage nowadays.


You are either fast enough to hit the hole/corner and powerful enough to run through tackles, or you aren't. Holes ain't very big now and they close faster than ever.

Wade was impressed with Johnson's speed but Felix won out. In the back of my mind I kinda remember Johnson having some real or perceived character issues is why he was maybe down our draft board. But my mind might be playing tricks on me homey.
Eh... Totally disagree. Every good back has vision and some ability to make people miss. Otherwise you're Tyson Thompson. And Felix has used those qualities to break many huge runs that have won games for us.

It's very strange to me that to so many people, these five games have nullified every good thing about this team and even the players.
 

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casmith07;3644138 said:
Parcells was an idiot. I think there's still a crater in my basement floor from when my jaw hit it when we traded out of the spot where we should have taken Jackson.

Doesn't matter, I am pretty sure Parcells said that if they'd stayed there he would have picked Kevin Jones.

Parcells brought a needed revamp to the Cowboys drafting strategies, but he didn't show much as an evaluater himself. Pretty funny that he brought the words 'Pet Cats' to the Cowboys lexicon, but displayed a lot of poor choices with his very own pet cats.
 

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STSINAZ;3644045 said:
Didnt we pick Steven Jackson when we could have? what a beast he is...

Didn't we pick Chris Johnson when we could have?

Two future hall of famers that we let slip right through our hands!

Do you realize how good we would be with either of these guys right now!
This can be said about tons of players for every team.

Stupid thread.
 

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AdamJT13;3644126 said:
Parcells said he passed on Steven Jackson because he wanted a back with more potential for "home runs" -- long runs. He said Julius Jones had more.

We passed on Chris Johnson because Felix Jones showed more all-around ability than just speed. And as has been mentioned, if we had drafted Johnson, he wouldn't be getting more than about 12 carries per game, and Felix likely would be a Pro Bowl back for the Titans, and fans would be crying about not drafting him.

Funny that was the reason we gave for taking Felix and now when people talk about the two you hear that Johnson has more than superior speed, he has wiggle, which Felix has shown to have little of by the fact that he's having trouble making anyone miss a tackle against him.

Johnson is clearly a better overall RB, contrary to what some of you want to say. Its not a matter of situation. Saying Felix would likely be a Pro Bowl back for the Titans and CJ would be splitting carries here is just ridiculous. He's done nothing close to what CJ has done yet, and the reason Felix is splitting carries here is because he hasn't done anything to make anyone in the organization believe he's that much better than the other backs. You all in that "fantasy felix" group are assuming wayyy too much to make your claims justified. That doesn't quite do it for me.
 

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Neither one of them is going to the hall of fame...at least based on what they've done so far.
 

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STSINAZ;3644045 said:
Didnt we pick Steven Jackson when we could have? what a beast he is...

Didn't we pick Chris Johnson when we could have?

Two future hall of famers that we let slip right through our hands!

Do you realize how good we would be with either of these guys right now!

LOL at future hall of famers.

:lmao2:

By the way, great, original idea. Have never seen this posted here.
 

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Boyzmamacita;3644153 said:
Maybe Felix will make us happy we drafted him tonight.

I've always been happy we drafted him. He was outstanding at the end of last yr. Had a great game vs Tennessee two weeks ago too.

He's a good player, over the course of a season he's gonna be really productive. Assuming we can block for him.

LOL at some of the utter boneheads complaining about not picking this guy or that guy at RB, they'd be getting the same blocking our guys get now and therefore, getting tackled for losses with regularity as well.
 

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STSINAZ;3644045 said:
Didnt we pick Steven Jackson when we could have? what a beast he is...

Didn't we pick Chris Johnson when we could have?

Two future hall of famers that we let slip right through our hands!

Do you realize how good we would be with either of these guys right now!

Agreed... I still don't undestand why the Cowboys didn't draft Tom Brady either.

He was sitting there in the 6th round, and the Cowboys didn't even have a quarterback.

Can you imagine... Brady throwing, Jackson running, and then probably trading for Logan Mankins too? Superbowl!
 

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dbair1967;3644163 said:
LOL at future hall of famers.

:lmao2:

By the way, great, original idea. Have never seen this posted here.

Honestly? Its that outrageous to you? You really can't see CJ being a future hall of famer? Or Jackson? Really..
 

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dbair1967;3644168 said:
I've always been happy we drafted him. He was outstanding at the end of last yr. Had a great game vs Tennessee two weeks ago too.

He's a good player, over the course of a season he's gonna be really productive. Assuming we can block for him.

LOL at some of the utter boneheads complaining about not picking this guy or that guy at RB, they'd be getting the same blocking our guys get now and therefore, getting tackled for losses with regularity as well.

I'll disagree with respect to Steven Jackson. When he was coming out Dallas had a huge need at RB and he was a better back than Julius Jones. That's not even arguable. Parcells just showed how mediocre he really was as a talent evaluator at that moment. He reinforced it with other bonehead pcks along the OL and at TE afterwards. The Barbie pick was just the icing on the cake. We should've drafted Jackson, and had we done so, i think Parcells would've had much more playoff success than he did in Dallas.
 
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