Why do many on this board want Kellen Moore fired?

[Aven8]

Because we have been running the same offense for 15 years. It has always put up lots of yards, but failed in big games. Watch a KC game, or a SF game. That’s modern offense.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Makes so sense to me. The team is averaging 36 points per game since Dak got back and he was rusty against Detroit. The team is averaging 28.1 points overall with Dak and Rush combined. I don't get it. Is he perfect. No. But you show me one OC that is. He is an excellent OC in my opinion.

Think about this. The Cowboys just dropped 40 points on a top 2 defense. Let that sink in.

For the record I'm not advocating him getting fired, but his run blocking schemes are uninspiring and only an afterthought to his overall offensive plan. Will a little effort he could change that and the team would be less dependent on QB play, then I'd be more happy with Moore.

 

[kskboys]

Because we have been running the same offense for 15 years. It has always put up lots of yards, but failed in big games. Watch a KC game, or a SF game. That’s modern offense.

Not to mention that it's an O that gets shut down way too easily by playoff quality D's.

 

[kskboys]

For the record I'm not advocating him getting fired, but his run blocking schemes are uninspiring and only an afterthought to his overall offensive plan. Will a little effort he could change that and the team would be less dependent on QB play, then I'd be more happy with Moore.

He needs an advisor so badly.

 

[Aven8]

Not to mention that it's an O that gets shut down way too easily by playoff quality D's.

That’s my point. #1 offenses get slowed down but not shut down. This one does time and time again.

 

[foofighters]

Makes so sense to me. The team is averaging 36 points per game since Dak got back and he was rusty against Detroit. The team is averaging 28.1 points overall with Dak and Rush combined. I don't get it. Is he perfect. No. But you show me one OC that is. He is an excellent OC in my opinion.

Think about this. The Cowboys just dropped 40 points on a top 2 defense. Let that sink in.

Same with Garrett. This team is achieving what it is "in spite" of KM. How about that trick play that killed us a couple of days ago? Desperate teams call trick plays. We just need to line up and play football. His trick plays rarely work and they usually end up in a loss in yardage.

 

[zrinkill]

Because this offense relies on a player making a great play to be successful instead of putting players in positions to be successful.

Thats why the offense is better in hurry up because they do not use Moore's long developing silly plays.

 

[NotForLong]

Makes so sense to me. The team is averaging 36 points per game since Dak got back and he was rusty against Detroit. The team is averaging 28.1 points overall with Dak and Rush combined. I don't get it. Is he perfect. No. But you show me one OC that is. He is an excellent OC in my opinion.

Think about this. The Cowboys just dropped 40 points on a top 2 defense. Let that sink in.

They love Dak

 

[VACowboy]

Still too predictable. Yes the stats speak for themselves, and the defense been giving up more points as well.

But Moore's offense is like Garrett / Lineman tree. Defenses still knows what is coming. So it depends upon matchups as well. We always matched up well with the Eagles, and basically out man them.
Other defense such as SF, not so much. Heck we even have a tough time the GB & TB as well.

They need more creativity to overcome those teams. Also our WR's never seem to be wide open as other teams. And it is not because those teams skill players are better.
When was the last time we seen one of our WR wide open or lead a defender by 2 or 3 yards. The exception being CeeDee in the Eagles game, from supposedly a blown coverage.
Hilton's catch was just a great throw and catch, as the defense was all over him.

KC has receivers open all the time, SF as well, and deep. GB, they are coming around. Miami, if Tua is not getting sacked, LAC at times.
Moore can't scheme anyone open.

The run game is the same plays over and over, with Zeke and Pollard, they should be getting more yards. Could be the blocking schemes as well.

This, SO much. My big quibble with Garrett's offense was that it doesn't help the players. The route combinations don't help WRs get open and the running scheme doesn't help create space for the runners. What Doug Pederson is doing for Lawrence and what Shanahan does for his team's ground game just with play design is amazing. (And Shanahan with a rookie 6th-rounder at QB.) Yeah, Dallas is scoring in buckets since Dak came back, but what could the Dallas offense be with a guy like Pederson or Shanahan designing and calling plays?

 

[SultanOfSix]

Because people can’t distinguish between a good play call and a fault in execution. A number of variables can blow up a play, and that doesn’t necessarily make the play call bad. So when the latter happens, it’s easier to blame coaching (in this case the OC) instead of a favored player or a pet cat.

 

[RonnieT24]

Because we have been running the same offense for 15 years. It has always put up lots of yards, but failed in big games. Watch a KC game, or a SF game. That’s modern offense.

Maybe KC but San Fran is running the old man Shanahan's offense from 25-30 years ago. Yes Kyle has added some wrinkles but there is very little modern about that offense overall.

 

[fairviewfarmer]

I simply believe we can do better than Kellen Moore at OC.
Its interesting, to me at least, that he hasn't moved on to be a HC by now.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Makes so sense to me. The team is averaging 36 points per game since Dak got back and he was rusty against Detroit. The team is averaging 28.1 points overall with Dak and Rush combined. I don't get it. Is he perfect. No. But you show me one OC that is. He is an excellent OC in my opinion.

Think about this. The Cowboys just dropped 40 points on a top 2 defense. Let that sink in.

Most dont understand football. They dont understand the difference between being down 14 points and having to pass the ball. Or the run game is getting stuffed and abandoning the run.

Most think all you have to do for the run game to be great is run it 40 times.

Dumbest fan base on the planet.

 

[kskboys]

Maybe KC but San Fran is running the old man Shanahan's offense from 25-30 years ago. Yes Kyle has added some wrinkles but there is very little modern about that offense overall.

Funny how SF's O seems to have taken off since Purdy took over.

I'm trying not to anoint too soon, but man, this kid looks like he gets it. Maybe a Jeff Garcia type?

 

[kskboys]

This, SO much. My big quibble with Garrett's offense was that it doesn't help the players. The route combinations don't help WRs get open and the running scheme doesn't help create space for the runners. What Doug Pederson is doing for Lawrence and what Shanahan does for his team's ground game just with play design is amazing. (And Shanahan with a rookie 6th-rounder at QB.) Yeah, Dallas is scoring in buckets since Dak came back, but what could the Dallas offense be with a guy like Pederson or Shanahan designing and calling plays?

7th. Purdy was Mr. Irrelevant, the last player taken in the draft.

Agree w/ your thoughts.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Dak over Dallas fans have to blame someone when Dak makes bad decisions.

The easy person to blame is Moore.

It's pretty simple.

 

[BoysForLife]

This one is simple.
If the Cowboys don't win the Super Bowl, the blame appears to be destined to fall on one of two people:

Kellen Moore, or Dak Prescott.

Dak's adherents are merely doing some preventative maintenance ahead of time by complaining ad nauseum about Moore all year. Then when the bottom falls out, they are already ahead of the blame game. It's positioning. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Pentagruel]

I can't speak for others but I can certainly tell you why I personally want him gone.. It really comes down to one thing. Lack of feel for the game. "Yards are yards.." You remember that statement? When Moore tried to tell us that there is no difference between a 4 yard pass and a 4 yard run? That was the moment when I knew for sure that he doesn't get football and never will. It's not that he's a bad OC.. in fact he's a very good one overall. But I think the supreme talent of some of our players mask a lot of his deficiencies. We have a running play from shotgun that pulls the backside tackle across the formation and asks the running back to wait for that tackle to get to the hold before he hits it. At least 90% of the time when we run that play the backside defender just follows the backside tackle straight to the hole and the play is either blown up for a loss or at best Zeke and TP struggle ahead for a minimal gain. Every once in a while that backside DE will NOT follow the tackle and that tackle gets into the hole with a head of steam and blasts the linebacker out of the hole for a big gain. And that one big gain makes everybody forget the other 9 times the play got blown up.

Then there is the RIDICULOUS frequency with which we break the huddle in empty formation in the red zone. With one of the best short yardage runners in history in our backfield our go to is 5 wide empty backfield.

And last but not least.. his unwillingness to exploit favorable matchups on the reg. CeeDee had 100 yards and a TD at halftime.. and we barely looked in his direction in the second half. Moore seems to view the players as interchangeable chess pieces instead of taking their varied skillsets into account. I think this team has amazing offensive talent which a better OC would get even more out of it than we're even getting right now. I think that becomes even more important come playoff time.

I think judging someone’s “feel for the game” is very subjective. Most of the time I feel Moore does a pretty good job adjusting the gameplan to the situation. He slowed down the offense drastically when Dak went down and I think that was a key factor in Dallas staying afloat during that rough stretch of schedule with a backup QB. It helped limit turnovers and put the defense in a position to take over the game, kept opposing offenses off the field more and basically kicked up the game when opponents would much rather be in a shootout. He has adjusted well at halftimes overall (which could also be a criticism of the original gameplan) which again shows he is pretty flexible as an OC. Even in games versus the Packers and Jacksonville which the cowboys threw away, the offense actually came through with some late drives.

As for your criticism of his red zone offense, it is second in the league after Philly, which is not bad.

I don’t think Moore is perfect, he has several plays that he seems to call every single game which fail seemingly every time which does get on my nerves. Overall though, I don’t think this offense is amazingly talented, but they are putting a hell of a lot of points on the board anyways. That is not just limited to this year. His body of work is pretty impressive and I do not think he will be as easily replaced as many on this board seem to think.

 

[terra]

Most dont understand football. They dont understand the difference between being down 14 points and having to pass the ball. Or the run game is getting stuffed and abandoning the run.

Most think all you have to do for the run game to be great is run it 40 times.

Dumbest fan base on the planet.

nobody know less about football than you do

 

[terra]

Bottom line is that KM is simply not as good as Jethro and some think; and we deserve better.

he is inconsistent; too eager to abandon the run; stubbornly keeps calling plays that do not work; and his feel for the game is often very bad.