Why do the players love Jerry Jones?

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In my opinion, that number should be 31 instead of 30. The Green Bay Packers franchise cannot be excluded from the observation for being shareholder owned.

The shareholders elect a 45-member board of directors. The board selects a seven-member executive committee. The executive committee oversees its front office personnel. The front office hires and fires head coaches. Etc., etc.

It is, literally, the most elaborate form of delegated authority in not just the National Football League but all professional team sports leagues (at least in North America).
I use 30 instead of 31 because Bengals owner is also GM.
 

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^ This. Most individuals have several personality traits. Jerry Jones is not an exception.

It is wise for observers to acknowledge every statement or action of a person. This helps determine how that person self-identifies, how they think, and interact with friends, family, acquaintances and even strangers. Focusing on a single facet never presents a fuller picture of that someone's personality.
BF Skinner...I'm Ok, you're OK.
 

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In my opinion, that number should be 31 instead of 30. The Green Bay Packers franchise cannot be excluded from the observation for being shareholder owned.

The shareholders elect a 45-member board of directors. The board selects a seven-member executive committee. The executive committee oversees its front office personnel. The front office hires and fires head coaches. Etc., etc.

It is, literally, the most elaborate form of delegated authority in not just the National Football League but all professional team sports leagues (at least in North America).
Football is still dominated at the team level. Not the executive levels - come Sunday game times...and top producers win.

Momentums are part of the battle...at all levels in between.
 

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Just because you’re well educated and been in the business all of your adult life doesn’t mean your one of the better football guys to be a GM or VP.

We see what a difference hiring a proven winner HC like Parcells and McCarthy brings but we don’t think a proven GM or VP would make a similar difference ?

C’mon Man. Yea, the Jone$ have fared better than some around the league but why wouldn’t we want more?

I understand we are stuck and trying to do the best they can but why must we defend what they’ve done this era and not critique . Doesn’t mean we aren’t rooting them on and hoping for the best.

Do Cowboy fans really not want a front office like some of the more successful teams around the league . We want those coaches . But not their GM’s or VP’s .
I call BS!!!
For sure...straight ahead and not right on....back to the 60's.
 

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Football is still dominated at the team level. Not the executive levels - come Sunday game times...and top producers win.

Momentums are part of the battle...at all levels in between.
Cart. Horse. Football is a 12-month long operation. Success or failure on Sundays is predicated upon or assisted by football managerial decisions made before, during and after each season.
 

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For us fans, as you said - Jimmy basically built the team that got us Super Bowls...Jerry not so much...so very simple why fans love Jimmy over Jerry.

We dont know what goes on behind closes doors so we truly dont know who the "better" person is.

The players - yes I'm sure they loved Jerry more, he payed and treated them well, where Jimmy had to be hard on them to make them better players.
WTBS, you can tell Jerry is a decent dude. Especially if you’re one of his. Jimmy comes off as an arrogant you know what. His players didn’t all love him and still talk bad about him. Yes, football team building genius, but I bet money Jerry is the better dude
 

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Because when Mom (McCarthy) says "NO", they can go ask Dad.

Jerry has a long history of undermining the authority of his Head Coaches which is why the vast majority of the successful ones would never work for him......and the partial answer to why the Cowboys have done nothing in 27 years.

He is the "good" cop to his coach's "bad cop".

He also makes serious off field issues go away with tactics like bullying and bribery....if that player is a star.
 

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Cart. Horse. Football is a 12-month long operation. Success or failure on Sundays is predicated upon or assisted by football managerial decisions made before, during and after each season.
The way it has always been even when the Bears owner ran the NFL. Dallas has some top shelf operating right now, even if some fans want to instead go straight into hero worship and ring tapping as well.
 

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Because when Mom (McCarthy) says "NO", they can go ask Dad.

Jerry has a long history of undermining the authority of his Head Coaches which is why the vast majority of the successful ones would never work for him......and the partial answer to why the Cowboys have done nothing in 27 years.

He is the "good" cop to his coach's "bad cop".

He also makes serious off field issues go away with tactics like bullying and bribery....if that player is a star.
You further saying that player protections and growth hasn't been sorely missing through growth years while under the control of Jerry Jones? Then one would be a fool and naive as well.
 

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Cart. Horse. Football is a 12-month long operation. Success or failure on Sundays is predicated upon or assisted by football managerial decisions made before, during and after each season.
No, the progression of after-action-analysis has been stated by myself without hesitation concerning this very element by a Jerry Jones managed team over decades which has developed and is top shelf at present...all levels!

We're to the point of playing and after-action-analysis returns to weekly again, but the aggressive momentums are defining now.

That is still where we are at...conflict areas to be controlled.
 

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I get that a lot of fans cannot stand Jerry Jones. But if Jerry is such a POS, then why do his players love him so much? At the Press Conference announcing that DeMarcus Ware is going into the Ring of Honor, Ware called Jerry his "Dad." When asked about Jerry, Ware said, "The truth of the matter is he is an awesome person."

See the 13:21 mark on this video.



I remember Larry Allen talking about Jerry in reverential terms in his Hall of Fame speech, and calling Jerry a great man. Multiple HOF Cowboys have said the same thing about Jerry. Very few of them talk about Jimmy in the same way. Even Troy Aikman, who is very close to Jimmy, talks about feeling betrayed by Jimmy when he left the Cowboys. He talked about how Jimmy demanded sacrifice from the players, but wasn't willing to make a sacrifice himself.

I'm not in awe of Jerry Jones. I don't know the man, and he's not been very good at getting back to a Super Bowl after the teams Jimmy built got old. But I don't think Jimmy deserves the honor some want to give him. I acknowlege Jimmy's talent. But he backstabbed Jerry and his players. And before that, he backstabbed the President of the University of Miami. He backstabbed his wife, unceremoniously dumping her after she supported him through his career. Jimmy is a thoroughly dishonorable man.

But player after player after player after player continue to sing the praises of Jerry Jones the man. Fans may be justified in being unimpressed with Jerry the GM of the Cowboys. But if you believe the players who have played for him, he is a much better person than Jimmy Johnson, and maybe some fans ought to be willing to acknowledge that Jerry must have done something to earn the honor, respect and love of those who've played for him.

Jerry remains loyal, Jerry pays the price for loyalty.
 

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The way it has always been even when the Bears owner ran the NFL. Dallas has some top shelf operating right now, even if some fans want to instead go straight into hero worship and ring tapping as well.

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No, the progression of after-action-analysis has been stated by myself without hesitation concerning this very element by a Jerry Jones managed team over decades which has developed and is top shelf at present...all levels!

We're to the point of playing and after-action-analysis returns to weekly again, but the aggressive momentums are defining now.

That is still where we are at...conflict areas to be controlled.






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You further saying that player protections and growth hasn't been sorely missing through growth years while under the control of Jerry Jones? Then one would be a fool and naive as well.
Well, yes, one would be.....

Wait a minute....are you talking about me?

Okay, perhaps I am a little. Could you please explain the partial statement, "growth hasn't been sorely missing through growth years?" When I've been insulted I like to understand how and why.
 

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I agree but we must also realize that while these players our Sugar Daddy pampers dont fulfill all of our goals on the field they do help our owner fulfill his revenue goals which after all is the initial goal. Cowboys rule at the cash register .
Great point
 

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Because he doesn't hold them accountable and you don't bite the hand that feeds. Not that complicated.
 

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Well, yes, one would be.....

Wait a minute....are you talking about me?

Okay, perhaps I am a little. Could you please explain the partial statement, "growth hasn't been sorely missing through growth years?" When I've been insulted I like to understand how and why.
First two to three years are purely developmental if not already at top team levels. Team levels were and are presently relevant in declaring similarities referenced. Here and now, you declaring today's starting offensive line, part of overall strength is NOT comparable in field performance to what was then 'the wall?'
 

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7 minutes ago







Two separate replies to one comment.
(coughing) I already am aware of what was presented for a discussion...so?

We have been talking analysis for four months now and are coming up on play. Momentum changes and preparations are already on the table now.

No matter the reference environments, which have changed, the simple bases are established in the present, if evaluated realisticly and not as a stereotyped insult, this team is strongly prepared for a great season...defense needs to be a dominating element now!
 
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