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Why Hasn't Dalton Shultz Signed A Long Term Contract Yet

Discussion in 'Overtime Zone' started by Vinnie2u, Apr 7, 2022.

  1. blueblood70

    blueblood70 Well-Known Member

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    10.9 YPC says otherwise its right there with top TE production clueless responses around here go check his numbers top 3 for all TES..

    Written must have been HOF check down Charlie he hardly ever averaged over 10,,
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  2. CouchCoach

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    I think he went to the back burner once he signed the tag. They knew they were losing Cooper and Wilson so they needed to do something with Schultz as a stop gap and still have time to do a longer term deal after the draft. We'll see what they come away with in the draft and they could just let the tag stay.
  3. CowboyRoy

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    Im sure the Cowboys want to see what he can do for another year while trying to replace him with a draft pick in the middle rounds this year. Why pay him big money long term when you can give him 10 million for one year and let it play out?

    As far as Shultz he doesnt have much choice. Is he going to hold out and not play? At the moment he is the #2 option in a great Cowboys offense and one of Dak's favorite targets. It would be in his interest to play for 10 million and have another good year.
  4. CowboyRoy

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    The bottom line is that Shultz is Dak's top or 2nd favorite target. And he is a big weapon in 3rd downs and GL. Cooper was expendable with Lamb as the #1 and Shultz as a top target.
  5. CowboyRoy

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    TE's have a much smaller price point for franchise tags then WR's. It was a great move to be honest.
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  6. CowboyRoy

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    Shultz was the #2 receiver in this offense with 78 receptions. Cooper had 68, Lamb had 79. He led the team in TD's. You could actually argue that Shultz was Dak's favorite target.

    Cooper averaged 12 ypc and Shultz was at 10. That is hardly a check down guy. I bet if we looked at the numbers that Shultz was also #1 or #2 on 3rd down receptions.

    He was actually a more important part of the offense then Cooper was. Cooper was the #3 receiving option on this team.
  7. Dalmations202

    Dalmations202 Well-Known Member

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    Check down means he didn't run the big seam routes, not that he wasn't a good receiver.

    He just wasn't a big enough threat with Coop drawing double teams, CD needing attention and Gallup getting jump balls.

    Regardless of his YPC numbers you state, he can't block, and he was at best the #4 option.
  8. Dalmations202

    Dalmations202 Well-Known Member

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    No just because he caught the ball on 5-7 yard outs and fell for 10 when they didn't cover him because there was a 1 in Coop being double teamed, and a 1a in CD that they were trying to double, and a #2 in Gallup that needed attention, and they couldn't forget about Zeke coming out of the backfield.

    Schultz was at best the #4 receiver on almost all plays, and he was the one who Dak had wide open every play because they didn't respect him.

    Easy to be the check down guy who gets open when they don't respect you enough to really even cover you. 7 defenders if they don't blitz. One has to stay with Zeke. Double Coop, Double CD. Thats five. You going to double Gallup or try to single him and single Schultz.

    On most plays Schultz went against the 6th best pass defender on their team. Please --- no more Coop was #3. He was always the one doubled, and Dak inaccuracy didn't allow him to throw in tight windows, so he "checked down" to the TE who was going against the 6th or 7th best pass defender on the defense. Hence the statement "check down Charlie".
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  9. CowboyRoy

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    Another angry Coop apologist I see. The numbers dont lie. Coop was expandable for being the #3 target on the team. Not to mention he was oft injured.

    The lie that Cooper was the one facing all the double teams has already been proven to be completely false.

    I guess you can go watch the Browns now. They should be awesome. If Watson plays out of the gate, the best running game in the NFL and Cooper at WR they should be a handful.

    I like Cooper, but he was expendable based on Lamb and Shultz being the 1 and 2 option here.
  10. Mannix

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    Thank you!
  11. Dalmations202

    Dalmations202 Well-Known Member

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    Keep sipping that Cowboys Kool-Aid if you think Schultz was the reason.
  12. kumizi

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    It’s not like we need the cap space. Why tie yourself to him long term? Based on the pre draft visits, they’ll be looking to draft his replacement.
  13. Flamma

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    His market value is around 12-13M per year. That's what he's going to want. I doubt the Cowboys pay him that, but someone else probably will.
  14. CowboysFaninHouston

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    schultz was 4th in YPC among TEs.
    probably....that's the market right now, so the 11M is not a bad deal, and if they don't want to go that high for a TE, then its a smart move for one year.
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  15. bonafidebanter

    bonafidebanter Well-Known Member

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    Draft his replacement. I like the 6'7", 265 lb. TE from Virginia, Jelani Woods in the latter rounds.
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  16. plymkr

    plymkr Well-Known Member

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    Nice post. Got me rethinking the Schultz franchise tag issue. I was pretty down on it till now. I would like to see him sign a multi year contract before July 15 but if he stays on the tag, at least we're not totally getting ripped off.
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  17. john van brocklin

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    Fair question.
    Guessing he wants more money that Stephen is offering.
    Shocking, I know.
  18. Dalmations202

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    Only in name was he a TE. A TE can block in line. He could not block in line. He could not block in the open field. He did catch the ball well, but there was not a DC in the league that made him more than the #4 option when trying to cover guys. Dallas had legit WR's last year, and Dak took what he was given. This isn't to put down Schultz as a receiver, nor Dak as an inaccurate passer............ As the year went along they figured out that with the injured OL and inability to run outside due to the inability of Shultz to block, they made Dallas one dimensional. Dak is not the most accurate passer. I don't think that is questionable. So, as the season went along, teams started zoning and doubling the WR's and making Dak throw to tight windows (which he couldn't) or drive the field by checking down to the TE who caught well, but acted more as a 4th WR than a TE as he caught 5-7 yard catches and fell for a few more -- apparently about 10.

    Schultz is what he is. Dak is what he is. If you want to improve, you fix the OL so you can run, and that includes the TE. When you aren't one dimensional, you can control the ball, control the clock, and control the game.

    Keep doing what they have been doing and expect the same results that they have been getting.
  19. blueblood70

    blueblood70 Well-Known Member

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    sorry those aren't not what TE traditionally due and his YPC 10.9 that chain mover that what TEs do..check out his average on that turn into 1st downs.. says hes getting more then the average YPC then most TE s get off the clueless DS hate train. His salary is not way out of line on the tag, look over the list and the costs of the top 10 paid YEs and he has top 3 production. Makes sense if you aren't trolling.. JW is going to the HOF on the Charlie checkdown type TE.
  20. baltcowboy

    baltcowboy Well-Known Member

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    They tagged Shultz because he is a top 10 NFL tight end that would have received a big contract on the open market. Just because the Cowboys are looking at tight ends in the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds does not mean they don’t want resign him. The Cowboys offense is at its best in 12 personnel (two tight end). The Cowboys want Shultz or they would not have tagged him. The problem is the front office like some fans don’t understand that Shultz is a 12 million dollar tight end on the open market. Also the injury to Jarwin knows killed all doubt that he was coming back.
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