Why Hasn't Dalton Shultz Signed A Long Term Contract Yet

[CowboysExchange]

Jackie Smith is a HOFer.

True dat

 

[CowboysExchange]

We don't have a Dalton Schultz'kowski

We got a Dalton Check'downski

Lmao.

 

[CowboysExchange]

It's that signature wide open 3 yard checkdown screen pass SKILLSET that only a top 5-6 te could duplicate. Lmao.

Don't drink the Koolaide

 

[OmerV]

I gave ya all of my reasons why I think Schultz ceiling is maxed out and why I think that ceiling will fall.

He's playing double duty positions as a Blocker and Receiver.

So he's already being asked to do too much.

It's no wonder why he fades away in the 2nd half of games and esp in the 4th Quarter.

You push a player to his Max and more often than not he will break.

Ya take all of the talent away around him and that avg'ness will jump right out at ya when he's become more of a focal point

I'm guessing down to about the 15th best te in the League

That's about where most of the good possession receiving tes end up. Between 11th best to last. Not too many ever crack the top 10

A TE that is is asked to block as well as catch passes! OMG! Get out of here!

BTW, half of his TDs last year were in the 2nd half, and I'll bet dollars to donuts you have no idea about the yardage distribution. Just another in an ongoing stream of things you make up.

These issues with just making up whatever suits you and presenting it as fact and blatantly ignoring what doesn't suit you are alarming, and so constant as to be patently absurd. It doesn't matter how many times you are called out on it you just keep doing it. It truly seems to be pathological.

 

[OmerV]

There was a 2 point conversion Schultz caught last year short of the goal line and he only needed 6 inches to 1 Foot to cross the goal line man on man.

Any Top Te in the League woulda powered his way into the end zone and converted that 2 point conversion but he came up short.

Sometimes it's the lil things that are more telling about a player than just the black and white stats.

And there was a play where Schultz broke a tackle running down the sideline then cut upfield and split 2 defenders trying to tackle him to get in the end zone.

If you are going to cherry pick one play, why not that one? I'm guessing in that situation one play is just one play and doesn't mean much, right?

 

[kskboys]

A TE that is is asked to block as well as catch passes! OMG! Get out of here!

BTW, half of his TDs last year were in the 2nd half, and I'll bet dollars to donuts you have no idea about the yardage distribution. Just another in an ongoing stream of things you make up.

These issues with just making up whatever suits you and presenting it as fact and blatantly ignoring what doesn't suit you are alarming, and so constant as to be patently absurd. It doesn't matter how many times you are called out on it you just keep doing it. It truly seems to be pathological.

That's why everyone else quit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CowboysExchange]

A TE that is is asked to block as well as catch passes! OMG! Get out of here!

BTW, half of his TDs last year were in the 2nd half, and I'll bet dollars to donuts you have no idea about the yardage distribution. Just another in an ongoing stream of things you make up.

These issues with just making up whatever suits you and presenting it as fact and blatantly ignoring what doesn't suit you are alarming, and so constant as to be patently absurd. It doesn't matter how many times you are called out on it you just keep doing it. It truly seems to be pathological.

Most all of Schultz tds came off of rinky dink little 3 yard wide open checkdown screens w racs.

He caught a good seam pass over the middle against the Raiders, snuck open against the Giants in the Back of the end zone for a 2 yard td pass, and caught a decent pass down the right side against the Eagles lol.

But how long are those 3 yard schemed wide open checkdown passes gonna work? At the NFL Playoff Level? Against Good Teams?

Sure he made a few decent catches here and there. But to think he's this top 5-6 caliber te in the league because he has some special SKILLSET is stretching it.

Any other avg te in the League could have done what Schulz did in that scheme for 6 million less

Was it talent? Scheme? Or ineptness on the defense? Most would agree it was options 2-3 more often than not

 

[OmerV]

Most all of Schultz tds came off of rinky dink little 3 yard wide open checkdown screens w racs.

He caught a good seam pass over the middle against the Raiders, snuck open against the Giants in the Back of the end zone for a 2 yard td pass, and caught a decent pass down the right side against the Eagles lol.

But how long are those 3 yard schemed wide open checkdown passes gonna work? At the NFL Playoff Level? Against Good Teams?

Only two of his TD's were that short. The other 6 were 32, 22, 19, 9, 9 and 6 yards. Average of 12.5 yards per TD.

But hey, your pathological need to make up whatever you want is consistent.

 

[CowboysExchange]

A TE that is is asked to block as well as catch passes! OMG! Get out of here!

BTW, half of his TDs last year were in the 2nd half, and I'll bet dollars to donuts you have no idea about the yardage distribution. Just another in an ongoing stream of things you make up.

These issues with just making up whatever suits you and presenting it as fact and blatantly ignoring what doesn't suit you are alarming, and so constant as to be patently absurd. It doesn't matter how many times you are called out on it you just keep doing it. It truly seems to be pathological.

The go ahead TD against the raiders was the best thing he did all year. Of course he fell short in ot on his targets and we lost game also.

The 2nd half scores youre referring too came in blowout games that made the score 41-17 cowboys. Lol

 

[CowboysExchange]

Only two of his TD's were that short. The other 6 were 32, 22, 19, 9, 9 and 6 yards. Average of 12.5 yards per TD.

But hey, your pathological need to make up whatever you want is consistent.

go YouTube those tds and watch. You're looking at stats. 5 of his 8 TD passes came off of 3 yard te screens w racs and defensive blunders

The best tds we're against the raiders and on the sidelines pass against Philly who couldn't have beaten smu when we played them.

 

[atlantacowboy]

He's given a one year audition at a premium salary to prove last year wasn't a fluke. We have the cap space to make him earn it. So, what's the rush? Stephen isn't going out and signing any big names that would require us to create more cap space.

 

[OmerV]

The go ahead TD against the raiders was the best thing he did all year. Of course he fell short in ot on his targets and we lost game also.

The 2nd half scores youre referring too came in blowout games that made the score 41-17 cowboys. Lol

lol, so now you're making an excuse for your blatantly false comment that he didn't produce anything in the 2nd half of games.

Just change the story if your first completely made up stats don't work, right?

As for falling short on targets against the Raiders, he was targeted 7 times. Again, you're making things up.

As for the 2 half scores all coming in blowout games, again, just made up crap. A couple were, and a couple weren't

By the way, are you under the impression that no other TE gets credit for his scores in one sided games?

Doesn't it embarrass you to keep getting called out for making things up over and over and over and over and over again?

 

[atlantacowboy]

The teams that usually spend high in free agency aren't contenders outside of the Rams who have almost zero draft picks

That's literally not true. See, LA 2021, Tampa 2020, KC 2019, Philly 2017, Denver 2015. All went big bringing in big names in the offseason. About the only exception is NE.

 

[OmerV]

go YouTube those tds and watch. You're looking at stats. 5 of his 8 TD passes came off of 3 yard te screens w racs and defensive blunders

The best tds we're against the raiders and on the sidelines pass against Philly who couldn't have beaten smu when we played them.

Wait, don't you continually argue he has no ability to run after the catch … lol

And no he didn't have 5 TD's on 3 yard screens. That's an idiotic claim. Hell, 2 of them couldn't be because the TD was less than 3 yards.

By the way, are you under the impression other TE's don't get credit for TD's they get where they have yards after the catch?

 

[CowboysExchange]

That's literally not true. See, LA 2021, Tampa 2020, KC 2019, Philly 2017, Denver 2015. All went big bringing in big names in the offseason. About the only exception is NE.

what separates Ne from everyone else is they use a committee approach. And they are quick to move off players at the sign of it's not a winning formula. I'm sure it's alot easier when ya have Brady and a bucket full of SB rings

 

[CowboysExchange]

lol, so now you're making an excuse for your blatantly false comment that he didn't produce anything in the 2nd half of games.

Just change the story if your first completely made up stats don't work, right?

As for falling short on targets against the Raiders, he was targeted 7 times. Again, you're making things up.

As for the 2 half scores all coming in blowout games, again, just made up crap. A couple were, and a couple weren't

By the way, are you under the impression that no other TE gets credit for his scores in one sided games?

Doesn't it embarrass you to keep getting called out for making things up over and over and over and over and over again?

he didn't make any plays that mattered in the 2nd half of games.

Sure he made some scores in the second half of games. He made a great play against the Raiders and got the 2 point conversion and we tied the game.

But then he came up empty handed on some targets in ot and we lost the game.

Most of his scores came in blowout games against Philly, Washington, and the Giants. He only had 2 other tds.

1 against the Raiders- lost
1 against the Panthers where he missed the 2 point conversion and also fumbled but the officials called it forward progress-bad call officiating- We won that game

He did some good things but he also shot himself in the foot several times esp at blocking

 

[CowboysExchange]

Wait, don't you continually argue he has no ability to run after the catch … lol

And no he didn't have 5 TD's on 3 yard screens. That's an idiotic claim. Hell, 2 of them couldn't be because the TD was less than 3 yards.

By the way, are you under the impression other TE's don't get credit for TD's they get where they have yards after the catch?

he's got decent speed and the rac is the best SKILLSET he has.

Throw Jesse James out there and he coulda got 7 out of 8 of those Tds though. Js

To say any of those 3-5 million dollar fa tes couldn't have done what Schultz did is a big stretch.

There wasn't enough done by Check'Downski to affect the W/L column any way you slice it Just some good stats and QB efficiency rating mainly

 

[CowboysExchange]

Wait, don't you continually argue he has no ability to run after the catch … lol

And no he didn't have 5 TD's on 3 yard screens. That's an idiotic claim. Hell, 2 of them couldn't be because the TD was less than 3 yards.

By the way, are you under the impression other TE's don't get credit for TD's they get where they have yards after the catch?

I'm not trying to make Schultz out to be a scrub. But I'm not trying to proclaim him as a top 5-6 te or pay him like one either. He's an average te who put up alot of great stats based upon a scheme that overtargeted a player who does little to affect the W/L column.

The top tes make plays that win a few games for you. Unfortunately we don't have that kinda guy yet or he hasn't developed into that kind of guy.

I'll just be interested to see if he draws more man to man now since we don't have a 2nd receiving threat te on 1st and 2nd down where he thrives the most. He's in the stat book and cap book as a top te. Will he draw that kind of attn away from our wrs because last year that wasn't the case.

 

[CowboysExchange]

Wait, don't you continually argue he has no ability to run after the catch … lol

And no he didn't have 5 TD's on 3 yard screens. That's an idiotic claim. Hell, 2 of them couldn't be because the TD was less than 3 yards.

By the way, are you under the impression other TE's don't get credit for TD's they get where they have yards after the catch?

Alot of tes pick up gravy tds against scrub teams in blowout games.

But the measuring cup for judging a receiver is more based upon how much coverage he's drawing.

You can't compare Cooper's 8 tds to Schultzs 8 tds if Cooper's drawing Double teams every snap and Schultz is just drawing Soft containment

If Kelce and Gronk aren't being double teamed they'll put up 18-20 tds a year instead of 8 ya see

Does that make sense why the stats are only a small portion of the equation??? The pro bowl and hof may not look at it that way but it's the Truth

Anybody that puts #82 in the same Class as a te that's drawing Double and Triple teams his whole career is being too generous. It's unfair that the NFL doesn't have a way of breaking that down.

Our mentality is a little skewed based upon how we use our tes compared to other teams

 

[Cowpolk]

I'm not trying to make Schultz out to be a scrub. But I'm not trying to proclaim him as a top 5-6 te or pay him like one either. He's an average te who put up alot of great stats based upon a scheme that overtargeted a player who does little to affect the W/L column.

The top tes make plays that win a few games for you. Unfortunately we don't have that kinda guy yet or he hasn't developed into that kind of guy.

I'll just be interested to see if he draws more man to man now since we don't have a 2nd receiving threat te on 1st and 2nd down where he thrives the most. He's in the stat book and cap book as a top te. Will he draw that kind of attn away from our wrs because last year that wasn't the case.

Who leads the NFL in tight end receptions?

Mark Andrews had the most yards on receptions by a tight end in 2021, with 1,361 yards.

George Kittle 2021 910
Dallas Goedert 2021 830
Dalton Schultz 2021 808
Rob Gronkowski 2021 802
Guess who was number 4 last season?