Why I feel it is Zeke or bust

[KJJ]

I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Elliott but Jerry has already shown he doesn't value RBs like he once did by allowing an 1800 yard back who had an MVP caliber season to walk. It would be a big about face to do that then turn around 2 years later and use the 4th overall pick on an RB when the team is loaded with holes defensively.

I'm not saying Elliott won't be the pick it's possible but with the signing of Morris who I feel will help the running game and with most drafts being deep in RBs Jerry will probably feel he might be able to land a pretty good back in the 3rd or 4th round. We did find Murray in the 3rd and Barber in the 4th so we have had some luck finding RBs later in the draft.

 

[Romotil45]

I have meandered in my opinion about this pick. Once the quarterbacks were gone, I have changed my mind several times.

But for this franchise, Zeke will do more for the defensive side of the ball than any of the defensive players available at 4.

At best a DE might have - as a rookie - 15 sacks, which might be close to a record. Googling this states Aldon Smith had 23 as a rookie in 78. But correct me if I am wrong, they didn't keep track of sacks then. Else Harvey Martin would be the sack leader FOREVER.

So essentially a DE or DT might have 15 or so great plays.

Behind this line Zeke the Freak would have as many long runs, if not more.

But how many times would Zeke touch the ball, and how many times would he move the chains keeping the defense off the field? How many times would he punch the ball into the endzone for a short yardage TD? How many times would he set up play action for Romo and Dez to sear the butt of the opposition?

How many times would Zeke affect plays where the defense had to concentrate on him in play action that saves Romo from a beat down?

THE MONEY DOES NOT MATTER. IT IS NOT OUR MONEY, AND WE ARE NOT THE GM OF THIS TEAM.

So taking all this into consideration, along with the fact RunDMC is an injury waiting in the wings and his back-up was terrific his rookie year but slipping away from that level each year since, It becomes evident to me this team should take the guy who looks more like Emmit than I have seen since, well............................Emmitt.

Wishful thinking will not make it magically happen be prepared to be disappointed Zeke doesn't go at 4.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Wishful thinking will not make it magically happen be prepared to be disappointed Zeke doesn't go at 4.

I have been a Cowboy fan since Jerry was in his sophomore year of college. I am prepared for anything he might say or think.

"Expect the worst and everything after is profit." Me.

You may quote me.

 

[Romotil45]

I have been a Cowboy fan since Jerry was in his sophomore year of college. I am prepared for anything he might say or think.

"Expect the worst and everything after is profit." Me.

You may quote me.

I will let me jot that down.

 

[willia451]

Not really that compelling an argument for Elliot. Because there are other 3 down backs in the draft. Murray himself was a mid round pick. The only situation I'd be comfortable drafting him is in a trade down. The money he will get is stupid for an untried RB. If Romo is gonna miss games, he's gonna miss games. He'll get hit regardless. One RB ain't gonna make much difference to that.

Maybe. But the arguments and member support FOR Zeke are starting to pile up pretty high.

And the only arguments that hold water are the same arguments people made when we drafted Fred.

Drafted too high. Could have gotten him later. Yada Yada Yada. Just static confusing the issue at hand and mucking up the waters so we can't see clearly what needs to be done and just doing it.

 

[DogFace]

Giving up 26 mil on a RB is never safe thats crazy talk.

Settle down

 

[Vinnie2u]

Zeke Elliot is the product of splicing the DNA of Bo Jackson, Jim Brown, Gail Sayers, Marcus Allen, Eric Dickerson, Earl Campbell and Adrian Peterson. Then taking an Egg from Serena Williams and letting Wonder Woman carry it to term.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Gladiator references aside, I'm bored let the killings begin

 

[PBCCowboy]

I'm watching the NFL Network's mock draft.
Michael Irvin is picking for the Cowboys.Mike said you win by scoring TDs and noted the lack of TDs by Cowboys' RBs.
He also talked about how taking leads in games would allow the defense to collect more sacks.
He picked Zeke with the #4...Charley Casserly said no other rookie will be able to win more games for a team than Zeke running behind that OL.

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

I'm watching the NFL Network's mock draft.
Michael Irvin is picking for the Cowboys.Mike said you win by scoring TDs and noted the lack of TDs by Cowboys' RBs.
He also talked about how taking leads in games would allow the defense to collect more sacks.
He picked Zeke with the #4...Charley Casserly said no other rookie will be able to win more games for a team than Zeke running behind that OL.

The yin and yang of this argument: yes, if zeke can control the clock and score TDs and keep the D off the field and fresh, it is a great recipe. but for those games that start off with the opponent getting up big on us and our poor defense, zeke and running the ball is taken out of the game.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Jerry is not going to pay 26 mil guaranteed for a RB. That's just foolish sure Jerry loves Zeke we all do. If you want Zeke pray we can trade back and he is there because Zeke will not go at 4.

So now you have official status to Jerry's brain. Lucky you.

 

[mattjames2010]

So now you have official status to Jerry's brain. Lucky you.

What is a better indicator to the opinion of both Jones' than, you know, both of them repeatedly saying how they value RBs? Unless you believe this was some 2 year scheme to throw everybody off and to get Zeke, what are you basing this on? The wish you made on some bright star in the night sky?

They didn't want to pay Murray decent money, they didn't want to give Miller a decent paycheck; instead they went to the bargain bin for Morris, McFadden, and settled with bonehead Randle. What more evidence do you need? Do you need them to wave a sign in your face saying "We're not drafting Zeke!", or would that be a smokescreen?

 

[Romotil45]

What is a better indicator to the opinion of both Jones' than, you know, both of them repeatedly saying how they value RBs? Unless you believe this was some 2 year scheme to throw everybody off and to get Zeke, what are you basing this on? The wish you made on some bright star in the night sky?

They didn't want to pay Murray decent money, they didn't want to give Miller a decent paycheck; instead they went to the bargain bin for Morris, McFadden, and settled with bonehead Randle. What more evidence do you need? Do you need them to wave a sign in your face saying "We're not drafting Zeke!", or would that be a smokescreen?

I like that that's hilarious !

 

[Romotil45]

So now you have official status to Jerry's brain. Lucky you.

Mattjames said It best. Your right I don't have mind-meld with Jerry I've just been paying attention and thinking logicaly n not allowing my emotions to get involved. I get It Zeke is your pet cat, your guy in the draft he's a great player. I hope you can realize that all the media hype about Zeke lately is just that hype. Jerry's not going to take Zeke at 4 hope you will not be too disappointed.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

What is a better indicator to the opinion of both Jones' than, you know, both of them repeatedly saying how they value RBs? Unless you believe this was some 2 year scheme to throw everybody off and to get Zeke, what are you basing this on? The wish you made on some bright star in the night sky?

They didn't want to pay Murray decent money, they didn't want to give Miller a decent paycheck; instead they went to the bargain bin for Morris, McFadden, and settled with bonehead Randle. What more evidence do you need? Do you need them to wave a sign in your face saying "We're not drafting Zeke!", or would that be a smokescreen?

So you have official word that Jerry will not take Zeke at #4. Link?

 

[Romotil45]

So you have official word that Jerry will not take Zeke at #4. Link?

Were just going by the actions of the Jones' over the last two years like mattjames said. There is no link. Just common sense. I am 99% sure Jerry doesn't take Zeke at 4 but like I said before Jerry might wake up Thurs morning and decide to waste 26 mil its possible but not likely.

 

[mattjames2010]

So you have official word that Jerry will not take Zeke at #4. Link?

Dude, you're hanging on by a thread here. Should we go back to the day we let Murray go to the Eagles until now and EVERYTHING that points to us NOT valuing RBs much at all? No, I don't have one link, I have dozens of links with statements from both Jerry and Stephen telling the world: We do not believe RBs are high in value.

You want a link to where Jerry outright says "I don't want Zeke" - You're not going to find that, you're not going to find any GM/owner telling you who they do and don't want before a draft. You have to put it together yourself. There is evidence, probably too much evidence, out there telling you how we feel about that position.

 

[rikolai]

What in the hell does not retaining Murray(who was approaching age 30!) have to do with whether they will draft a 20 year old?A 20 year old that some actual NFL personnel feel could be the best player in the entire draft(Bill Polian if you need an example).

I have no idea what the pick will be Thursday,but if you think it is or has been a foregone conclusion that the Cowboys have not at least considered taking Elliott with that 4th pick,then you don't have as firm a grip on this whole talent acquisition business as you think you do.

 

[Romotil45]

What in the hell does not retaining Murray(who was approaching age 30!) have to do with whether they will draft a 20 year old?A 20 year old that some actual NFL personnel feel could be the best player in the entire draft(Bill Polian if you need an example).

I have no idea what the pick will be Thursday,but if you think it is or has been a foregone conclusion that the Cowboys have not at least considered taking Elliott with that 4th pick,then you don't have as firm a grip on this whole talent acquisition business as you think you do.

I'm sure they have considered him and it prob went something like this. That Zeke he's a great player. Where are we drafting again 4 ? What's the guaranteed money at 4 ? 26 mil . Wow that's a lot for a RB. What are we paying McFadden ? 400,000 guaranteed and 1.5 mil a year. Wow that's cheap. What kind of production did we get for that ? 1000 yrds. Wow that's good. So basically we paid 2 mil for a thousand yrds. So hmm 4 divided by 26 over six mil a year. Does Zeke give us 3 times the production of McFadden ? That would be 3000 yrds not going to happen.

 

[rikolai]

I'm sure they have considered him and it prob went something like this. That Zeke he's a great player. Where are we drafting again 4 ? What's the guaranteed money at 4 ? 26 mil . Wow that's a lot for a RB. What are we paying McFadden ? 400,000 guaranteed and 1.5 mil a year. Wow that's cheap. What kind of production did we get for that ? 1000 yrds. Wow that's good. So basically we paid 2 mil for a thousand yrds. So hmm 4 divided by 26 over six mil a year. Does Zeke give us 3 times the production of McFadden ? That would be 3000 yrds not going to happen.

I'm sure they have considered him and it prob went something like this. That Zeke he's a great player. Where are we drafting again 4 ? What's the guaranteed money at 4 ? 26 mil . Wow that's a lot for a RB. What are we paying McFadden ? 400,000 guaranteed and 1.5 mil a year. Wow that's cheap. What kind of production did we get for that ? 1000 yrds. Wow that's good. So basically we paid 2 mil for a thousand yrds. So hmm 4 divided by 26 over six mil a year. Does Zeke give us 3 times the production of McFadden ? That would be 3000 yrds not going to happen.

That would make a lot of sense if we were talking about baseball. Football is a totally different animal,not built on analytics. The Cowboys apparently came close to acquiring Adrian Peterson last year,but the Vikings wanted too much compensation in the form of draft picks. If it was only about salary,I believe he would be here. To assume that a front office does not value the RB position that had the all time yardage leader and won 3 Super Bowls with a run dominated offense would be pretty shortsighted imo.