Why is Dak refusing to give the cowboys a discount? Mahomes did!

[TheMarathonContinues]

Because like Zeke, Dak is selfish and greedy.

Yeah except Dak continued to play for 500k a year and when his deal was up he didn't sit out for a deal. He's no more selfish than Witten and Romo were.

 

[ItzKelz]

Mahomes didn't give a discount. He got first round money and on the books for half a billion by the end of his contract.

Dak got 4th round money and asked for 35 a year for 4 years. Heck ownership wanted him for 5 years and Dak said no you dont have to do that.

 

[blueblood70]

Mahomes will make his 200 million. More than enough money for many lifetimes, not including he’s the new face of the NFL.

Todd France is a greedy Bob Sugar clone. He’s the reason this hasn’t happened yet IMO.

was that Jerry Maguire reference LOL

my word is OAK LOL

 

[Cmac]

Because like Zeke, Dak is selfish and greedy.

….Like Romo?

 

[Winonesoon]

Does Mahomes and Brady have talent around them? Asking for my grandma because she keeps rambling on about Peyton, Montana, Elway, Young, Kelly, Bradshaw and Aikman all being on teams loaded with talent on both sides of the ball.

sure. It's all about how you fit Talent ,health ,luck and cap under an umbrella. Jerry cant just pay for it now so, its a little harder. Much harder. If it was just about money Jerry would be King Jerry.

 

[StarBoyz83]

I think 30 mil. per is plenty. We will see what happens but I fully expect the tag again. Which is pointless unless they're gonna try trade him or unless they wanna see how he plays after the Injury.

 

[ondaedg]

sure. It's all about how you fit Talent ,health ,luck and cap under an umbrella. Jerry cant just pay for it now so, its a little harder. Much harder.

He can't? I can think of 5 moves right now that he could make to free up the cap space needed.

 

[Winonesoon]

He can't? I can think of 5 moves right now that he could make to free up the cap space needed.

If it didn't include restructuring ok.

 

[DFWJC]

why is Dak allowing his contract saga to continue this long ? This is a great town with great state tax savings , and prime time endorsements , which Dak has already cashed in on . After all , Jerry selected Dak in the 4th round while others passed on him . Jerry surrounded him with the most expensive OL RB WR combos to succeed .

The cowboys need all the savings to fix the Defense . They spent the least money on defense among all NFL teams in 2020 61.4 Mil , except for the jets .

Yet ,Dak is not relenting one inch for the sake of this team like Mahomes or Brady and others did to help their teams .

look at the fabulous discount Mahomes gave the chiefs . A dream contract by all means for a super bowl winner . The chiefs were able to spend big on defense last year , spending 97 mil to stack up their defense ( 6th highest investment in defense among all teams ) . Mahomes cap hit was actually 5.3 mil in 2020 . If he continues to play this good , his cap hit will be 24.8 mil in 2021 , and 31.5 in 2022 . This is how you win Super Bowls !!!

In contrast, Dak’s cap hit last year was 31.4 Mil and now wants 40 mil a year.?? On top of the mistake expensive zeke and other contracts ?
This is how you remain irrelevant and 25 years away from a super bowl appearance !!

Fwiw
Dallas is not at all asking for a discount

 

[Proof]

Let him cash in elsewhere.

Perhaps. Not the premise of the thread though. I just don’t have a problem with him looking for what the market dictates when he took what it dictated for four years, quietly.

 

[gjkoeppen]

why is Dak allowing his contract saga to continue this long ? This is a great town with great state tax savings , and prime time endorsements , which Dak has already cashed in on . After all , Jerry selected Dak in the 4th round while others passed on him . Jerry surrounded him with the most expensive OL RB WR combos to succeed .

The cowboys need all the savings to fix the Defense . They spent the least money on defense among all NFL teams in 2020 61.4 Mil , except for the jets .

Yet ,Dak is not relenting one inch for the sake of this team like Mahomes or Brady and others did to help their teams .

look at the fabulous discount Mahomes gave the chiefs . A dream contract by all means for a super bowl winner . The chiefs were able to spend big on defense last year , spending 97 mil to stack up their defense ( 6th highest investment in defense among all teams ) . Mahomes cap hit was actually 5.3 mil in 2020 . If he continues to play this good , his cap hit will be 24.8 mil in 2021 , and 31.5 in 2022 . This is how you win Super Bowls !!!

In contrast, Dak’s cap hit last year was 31.4 Mil and now wants 40 mil a year.?? On top of the mistake expensive zeke and other contracts ?
This is how you remain irrelevant and 25 years away from a super bowl appearance !!

Maybe you should stop sucking up all the speculation that sportswriter keep feeding us to get clicks and who have ZERO first hand knowledge of anything on Prescott's negotiations. That 40 mil was started as soon as Prescott signed his tag and France wasn't negotiating just kept demanding the same thing. The funny thing, not ha ha funny, is that in the last hour or so on July15th Prescott was doing his own negotiating and they agreed on 35 mil but couldn't get the length or guaranteed amount done before the deadline.

Mahomes contract, it's great that he signed a 10 year deal but he also could end up with 450 mil. Now there are places starting in 2021 that guarantees everything for the next 3 years and then in 2022 if he still with them after day 3 of that league year everything for the next 2 years is fully guaranteed. and so on and so on for the remainder of the contract Now that's all fine and good but the Cowboys wanted just a 5 year deal and Prescott wanted a 3 year deal. 3 years isn't long enough for there to be a team friend deal like Mahomes got where he recoups his money later on in the contract.

All you're doing is that Prescott should be allowed to get the increase in salary that happens every year, especially for QB and take less than the going market value. If you were in your annual review and your boss said we know that others are making more but I think you should only get a smaller raise to he can make more on my prophet sharing, and the rest of the employees will get a small bonus for keeping the payroll under this amount. How would you react?
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[Creeper]

This is a good question. I fully understand that every player has a right and an obligation to seek the best contract possible for himself and his family. I don't expect any player to give a discount to the Cowboys. But still, when you see this, it means a lot. It means the player wants to be with the team. It means he wants to win, and it means he has a lot of confidence in himself and his ability to take the team to a championship. Guys who pinch pennies or show too much concern for the contracts appear to put winning second to personal status. Honestly, when a player gets $100 million guaranteed over 5 years, is a couple of million more so important to him that he won't sign? To me, that is a sing he is not fully committed to this team even though he may think he is. I don't it against Dak that he wants what he wants and won't settle for less, but I'd rather have the guy willing to shave a few bucks off his contract to be with this team.

This is why I think the Cowboys and Dak will part ways at some point. If Dak holds out for $40 million, a number I would never pay him, or refuses to sign a deal at all forcing the Cowboys to franchise him again, then I would trade him. If he does not sign in 2021 then he is never going to sign and next year they cannot franchise him. In 2022 he walks and the Cowboys get nothing more than a 3rd round comp pick. Trade him in 2021 and they should be able to get at least a 1st round pick for him.

I know it sucks to have to go find a QB again, but it is not up to the Cowboys alone. Dak has to agree to stay in Dallas and despite his words, which mean nothing, by not signing to a reasonable deal he is showing he is not committed to Dallas. And the Cowboys offered him a very reasonable deal based on media reports.

 

[Dak_Attack_09]

This is a good question. I fully understand that every player has a right and an obligation to seek the best contract possible for himself and his family. I don't expect any player to give a discount to the Cowboys. But still, when you see this, it means a lot. It means the player wants to be with the team. It means he wants to win, and it means he has a lot of confidence in himself and his ability to take the team to a championship. Guys who pinch pennies or show too much concern for the contracts appear to put winning second to personal status. Honestly, when a player gets $100 million guaranteed over 5 years, is a couple of million more so important to him that he won't sign? To me, that is a sing he is not fully committed to this team even though he may think he is. I don't it against Dak that he wants what he wants and won't settle for less, but I'd rather have the guy willing to shave a few bucks off his contract to be with this team.

This is why I think the Cowboys and Dak will part ways at some point. If Dak holds out for $40 million, a number I would never pay him, or refuses to sign a deal at all forcing the Cowboys to franchise him again, then I would trade him. If he does not sign in 2021 then he is never going to sign and next year they cannot franchise him. In 2022 he walks and the Cowboys get nothing more than a 3rd round comp pick. Trade him in 2021 and they should be able to get at least a 1st round pick for him.

I know it sucks to have to go find a QB again, but it is not up to the Cowboys alone. Dak has to agree to stay in Dallas and despite his words, which mean nothing, by not signing to a reasonable deal he is showing he is not committed to Dallas. And the Cowboys offered him a very reasonable deal based on media reports.

Look everyone it’s a sheep believing what his master feeds him.

 

[Frozen700]

At least partially because Mahomes deal was redone during his rookie deal, giving him less leverage than a player closer to UFA.

Also IMO Daks agent has a selfish agenda in this case.

Agent, brother, and Dak himself

 

[basel90]

From what we know of each of their personalities or situations, I disagree completely.

I don't recall Dak holding the team hostage during his rookie deal and heading to Cabo then returning unfit to play.

I don't recall Dak saying he needed a rest with the season on the line. Same game, ones shoulder is falling off and the other is out of breath.

I don't recall Dak getting himself suspended by surrounding himself with the wrong people.

I don't recall Dak discussing "low key faded" to the world.

And whatever else.....

Zeke is definitely the worst on the roster . Selfish , descending lazy talent , grossly overpaid , ditched the camp and went to Cabo, bad PR , etc etc . But somehow Jerry paid him !!

 

[Section446]

Because he isn't all that serious about winning like Mahomes is.

 

[basel90]

Jerry is low balling him hard, the stuff they put out was fluff. Show the acutal terms he turned down lying bum owner wannabe GM.

Jerry offered 35 mil a year guaranteed around 85-100 . Seems more than generous for a QB with a serious injury who has not done anything special on the top offensive outfit in the league ( OL WR RB )

 

[basel90]

Mahomes will make his 200 million. More than enough money for many lifetimes, not including he’s the new face of the NFL.

Todd France is a greedy Bob Sugar clone. He’s the reason this hasn’t happened yet IMO.

But Dak has let his agent dictate things for 19 months now .

 

[acr731]

Yeah except Dak continued to play for 500k a year and when his deal was up he didn't sit out for a deal. He's no more selfish than Witten and Romo were.

Didn't Witten and Romo both take a reduction in salary so the FO could try to build a better team? Let us when Zak and Dak do the same.

 

[Steve007]

why is Dak allowing his contract saga to continue this long ? This is a great town with great state tax savings , and prime time endorsements , which Dak has already cashed in on . After all , Jerry selected Dak in the 4th round while others passed on him . Jerry surrounded him with the most expensive OL RB WR combos to succeed .

The cowboys need all the savings to fix the Defense . They spent the least money on defense among all NFL teams in 2020 61.4 Mil , except for the jets .

Yet ,Dak is not relenting one inch for the sake of this team like Mahomes or Brady and others did to help their teams .

look at the fabulous discount Mahomes gave the chiefs . A dream contract by all means for a super bowl winner . The chiefs were able to spend big on defense last year , spending 97 mil to stack up their defense ( 6th highest investment in defense among all teams ) . Mahomes cap hit was actually 5.3 mil in 2020 . If he continues to play this good , his cap hit will be 24.8 mil in 2021 , and 31.5 in 2022 . This is how you win Super Bowls !!!

In contrast, Dak’s cap hit last year was 31.4 Mil and now wants 40 mil a year.?? On top of the mistake expensive zeke and other contracts ?
This is how you remain irrelevant and 25 years away from a super bowl appearance !!

It's about money more than championships. Some players will take a discount because they know they need players around them to win a championship. Brady would take less money so the Patriots could address other positions.