Why is Dallas always expected to set the market?

[Reid1boys]

It's not just Dallas. Every team in the league is pretty much expected to pay at or over top of market compensation for a top-5 player at their position.

This is just the way NFL player compensation works. Complaining about it doesn't do anything.

This is why when you know you have a bonafide great player on a rookie deal, you should try to get them under a long term contract as soon as possible. Waiting only drives the price tag higher. Micah should have been signed this offseason or even the offseason prior, and Lamb's deal should be an absolute no brainer to get done now. Our front office is constantly a day late and a dollar short. It is time they start being proactive.

IM Jerry... Hey CeeDEe, why dont we just get this done. Im gonna give you 4 years for 120 million with 100 million in signing bonus.

Ceedee.... hey Jerry, go pound rocks. Im gonna wait for Jefferson to sign, then we can talk.

Fans in the forum: Jerry is a moron for not getting this contract done 7 years ago to save money long term. What a moron.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I agree completely. It’s ridiculous our players feel entitled to set the market but it’s more indicative of how bad Jerry is at running the team.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If our players want to make history with their salaries they first have to make history with their play on the field. Jerry sucks as a GM and doesn’t see it that way.

So Lamb and co. should ignore his measured performance and that of his peers and just bend over and take whatever the club wants to give.

Seems unreasonable.

 

[conner01]

Jefferson and Lamb are much closer than you believe. It’s very close. Similar offenses over the years and team records. Jefferson has the great break away speed and is taller but it’s even everywhere else.

And lamb is gonna get the same money or slightly more. In the great scheme of things a million or two bucks doesn’t really matter

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

Anyone putting CD in the same category as Jefferson needs their head examined.

 

[conner01]

GM's want to retain their star player.
With restructuring GM's can juggle having large AAV contracts for years.
No GM wants to lose their player over 2-3 mill per year when they can have years 1-3 be dirt cheap cap hits.
The salary cap also shoots up yearly at a healthy amount.

It's a NFL problem, but not much they can do till the next CBA/if they even care to die on that hill.

Nick Bosa reset the Edge market and this or next year Parsons will reset it. The next stud edge will then reset that mark, even if in a vacuum he's isn't as good as Bosa/Parsons.

As the cap rises salaries rise. Fans think it’s about the best player getting the most money. And if every contract came due at the same time that might be valid. But they don’t. If you are a top 5 player getting a new deal and the best players deal is 2-3 years old you are gonna get more money. Just the way it works

 

[MyFairLady]

The Cowboys have a shiny new number 88 to promote. He will be the highest paid WR in the NFL. This is the way.

 

[coult44]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

Simple: Because they wait a year too long every dang time.

 

[plymkr]

So Lamb and co. should ignore his measured performance and that of his peers and just bend over and take whatever the club wants to give.

Seems unreasonable.

No that’s going to the other extreme. Where we’re at now Jerry is the one getting bent over in every negotiation. Jerry needs to change. He needs to get better

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No that’s going to the other extreme. Where we’re at now Jerry is the one getting bent over in every negotiation. Jerry needs to change. He needs to get better

This offseason is different then the past, no?

And Lamb is a OPoY candidate. If he looks at his performance and his peers, he can justify asking top dollar.

 

[Reid1boys]

Simple: Because they wait a year too long every dang time.

prior to last year, would you have made Lamb a top 3 paid WR? Nope
Now after this year, Lamb was not signing any contract until after Jefferson, had nothing to do with the Cowboys front office.

 

[TwentyOne]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

Only when you listen exclusivly to dc Media.

Its called hyping your own brand.

 

[plymkr]

This offseason is different then the past, no?

And Lamb is a OPoY candidate. If he looks at his performance and his peers, he can justify asking top dollar.

I’m not saying don’t pay Lamb, I’m saying Jerry has a bad habit of making the Cowboys the market setters. Jerry tends to lose in negotiations and that’s a problem. Paying Lamb top dollar doesn’t bother me as much as paying Demarcus Lawrence top dollar when we paid him. Some players deserve it and others don’t. Jerry struggles to know the difference.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I’m not saying don’t pay Lamb, I’m saying Jerry has a bad habit of making the Cowboys the market setters. Jerry tends to lose in negotiations and that’s a problem. Paying Lamb top dollar doesn’t bother me as much as paying Demarcus Lawrence top dollar when we paid him. Some players deserve it and others don’t. Jerry struggles to know the difference.

Jefferson set the market. Your bad habit worry is moot. I just do not agree the club tends to lose negotiations. Let's just see what happens.

And the issue with DLaw was that he had only had one year of all pro play before they signed him. They could have waited to see if he could repeat.

Is the club waiting and seeing?

 

[Reid1boys]

Only when you listen exclusivly to dc Media.

Its called hyping your own brand.

The Cowboys dont need to hype anything..... the rest of the media world will do it for them.

 

[Jfconrow]

If Micah is going to be the highest paid non QB, then he should hold out now.

 

[atlantacowboy]

yep, but these guys have agents that have far more sway with the plyers than Jerry could ever have. BUT, I have said I would play hardball with Dak and point blank say that. Hey Dak, go play for the Vikings and see how many places will still pay you big bucks to endorse their products.

That wasn't always the case. Jerry sold Charles Haley and Dieon Sanders on coming to Dallas. He needs to start calling some bluffs. There is nothing wrong with using the elephant in the room ( playing in Dallas has more off field cache than any other team) as leverage. Dak would absolutely lose at least half his endorsement money if he left Dallas. Dak taking 20M more from another team would be a potentially costly decision. The agents make money off the endorsements too. They are not stupid but they play jerry for the fool.

 

[Chasing6]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

Because we have GM Jethro.

If CD can have all the numbers with a below below average QB(sarcasm) would could he do with a real QB?

I have said for months now to trade Parsons and Lamb. Why get involved in these setting the next record breaking contracts. Lambs numbers will go down.
You can't expect his numbers to be at that level and still could NOT even get to a NFC Conference game, let alone a Superbowl. But Parson and Lamb both sure want to be PAID like they won a Superbowl.

Trade them both --as the Chiefs did with T Hill to Miami. Kansas City didn't want to pay Hill/Mahomes/Jones and Kelce these record deals so someone was traded away and that was Hill. KC got back: (1) Cap space. Avoiding to pay Hill (2) multiple HIGH draft picks. And Miami didn't get to a conference finals with HIll. Rather have 2-3 good players than one superstar that demands record breaking contracts. Same goes with Parsons. Sorry but let some other team pay it

With this years WR class, it would have been a great time to trade CD.

If we are not going to pay him, why was he not traded?

This FO is absolutely clueless.

 

[TwentyOne]

The Cowboys dont need to hype anything..... the rest of the media world will do it for them.

Thats funny. You dont mean that seriously do you ?

The Cowoys are a business. They will hype and of course need to hype everything. They want to sell their product.

The media talks about us because we drop the right stuff here and there. Dallas needs to adverstise its product or else it wont sell that good. And of course one way to advertise how great its product is is to make people believe that we (Dallas) are the place to be and to be talked about. Thats another way to say we afe so great and therefore so important. And about important stuff the media will talk because it generates cllicks and so revenue for them. Nobody reads the unimportant things.

Change teams, follow it and you will see the stuff you read there is exactly the same crap: Sell your franchise as the best or the best in the future and people will buy your stuff. Thats how you earn money.

Seriously i think that you are around my age. I cant believe that you write such stuff.

 

[CowboyoWales]

IM Jerry... Hey CeeDEe, why dont we just get this done. Im gonna give you 4 years for 120 million with 100 million in signing bonus.

Ceedee.... hey Jerry, go pound rocks. Im gonna wait for Jefferson to sign, then we can talk.

Fans in the forum: Jerry is a moron for not getting this contract done 7 years ago to save money long term. What a moron.

Yep, there isn't a binary element to blame. If we as fans are looking to Jerry it's not particularly on the timing of the signings..... it's on his inability to vary the approach to trading, and types of contract.
....he's prescriptive, which leads himself open the agents who'll wait him out, guessing/knowing he'll pay up later on.

 

[Reid1boys]

Thats funny. You dont mean that seriously do you ?

The Cowoys are a business. They will hype and of course need to hype everything. They want to sell their product.

The media talks about us because we drop the right stuff here and there. Dallas needs to adverstise its product or else it wont sell that good. And of course one way to advertise how great its product is is to make people believe that we (Dallas) are the place to be and to be talked about. Thats another way to say we afe so great and therefore so important. And about important stuff the media will talk because it generates cllicks and so revenue for them. Nobody reads the unimportant things.

Change teams, follow it and you will see the stuff you read there is exactly the same crap: Sell your franchise as the best or the best in the future and people will buy your stuff. Thats how you earn money.

Seriously i think that you are around my age. I cant believe that you write such stuff.

IM 54 and i cant believe you just wrote what you wrote. Why is it that Aikman, then Romo, Witten, and it will keep going get big Tv broadcasting deals when they are done.
You think Dak gets even close to his endorsement deals if hes playing for the Browns? You cant seriously think he would.

The Cowboys are on every sports show, EVERY DAY no matter what the situation is. If you dont see that the cowboys dont need to do any hyping of their team at this point, you are seriously putting your head in the sand.