Why is Dallas always expected to set the market?

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Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.
I really like what I'm reading here. But think Jerry's desire for media attention and the hope for big jersey sales cloud his thinking when it comes to "I like my guys".

Neverending story. If an employee doesn't agree to what I want to offer him then he goes. And in the NFL you can get some good compensation for these guys if timed well. So what's the problem?
 

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IM 54 and i cant believe you just wrote what you wrote. Why is it that Aikman, then Romo, Witten, and it will keep going get big Tv broadcasting deals when they are done.
You think Dak gets even close to his endorsement deals if hes playing for the Browns? You cant seriously think he would.

The Cowboys are on every sports show, EVERY DAY no matter what the situation is. If you dont see that the cowboys dont need to do any hyping of their team at this point, you are seriously putting your head in the sand.
There are more ex-players in sports media that did not play for the Cowboys than did play for the Cowboys. Those jobs have more to do with the person, not the team(s) they played for. That notion that playing for the Cowboys somehow is an advantage post playing career is a fantasy created by Cowboys fans. It’s ridiculous. There are increasingly more women in sports media than even just five years ago, not one ever played for the Dallas Cowboys. Every fanbase is convinced their favorite team is special compared to every other team in the league. If that’s what makes fans feel good and compels them to buy another logo key chain, there’s no harm in the fantasy.
 

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I really like what I'm reading here. But think Jerry's desire for media attention and the hope for big jersey sales cloud his thinking when it comes to "I like my guys".

Neverending story. If an employee doesn't agree to what I want to offer him then he goes. And in the NFL you can get some good compensation for these guys if timed well. So what's the problem?
I still cant believe that so many people think Jerry is so worried about money. His team is probably worth 14 BILLION DOLLARS. i think the Dolpins owner was offered 10 Billion and he turned it down.

The Cowboys are like a money printing machine. He needs to do nothing and the Cowboys will churn out cash from now until the league doesnt exist.

Im not saying he doesnt care about making money, Im just saying he needs to do nothing to make it. he wakes up and millions more are in his account, each and every day.
 

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There are more ex-players in sports media that did not play for the Cowboys than did play for the Cowboys. Those jobs have more to do with the person, not the team(s) they played for. That notion that playing for the Cowboys somehow is an advantage post playing career is a fantasy created by Cowboys fans. It’s ridiculous. There are increasingly more women in sports media than even just five years ago, not one ever played for the Dallas Cowboys. Every fanbase is convinced their favorite team is special compared to every other team in the league. If that’s what makes fans feel good and compels them to buy another logo key chain, there’s no harm in the fantasy.
wow.........how can one argue with that. More woman in sports broadcasting? I never noticed.
 

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wow.........how can one argue with that. More woman in sports broadcasting? I never noticed.
Dude is delirious. When I lived in the Bay Area I saw Dak Prescott on more TV ads than any 49er or Raider past or present. When I visit my family in Orlando it's the same. Of the four major networks broadcasting NFL football 2 of them have a former Cowboy as the #1 analyst. If I'm not mistaken Troy and Romo are the two highest paid analysts in the business. If you count non-studio guys Garrett is part of NBC's SNF team. Ex-Cowboys are everywhere all over the media. Marcus Spears, Chris Canty, Irvin, Moose, the list goes on and on and on. People wanting to act like it's not a thing are a mystery to me. As if denying reality will change it somehow.
 

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Dude is delirious. When I lived in the Bay Area I saw Dak Prescott on more TV ads than any 49er or Raider past or present. When I visit my family in Orlando it's the same. Of the four major networks broadcasting NFL football 2 of them have a former Cowboy as the #1 analyst. If I'm not mistaken Troy and Romo are the two highest paid analysts in the business. If you count non-studio guys Garrett is part of NBC's SNF team. Ex-Cowboys are everywhere all over the media. Marcus Spears, Chris Canty, Irvin, Moose, the list goes on and on and on. People wanting to act like it's not a thing are a mystery to me. As if denying reality will change it somehow.
Being a member of the Dallas Cowboys does not provide advantages playing for other teams does not provide. It’s why the Cowboys have to pay every bit as much as other teams to secure the services of top players every team has to pay. Players are not lining up to be Dallas Cowboys. For awhile you couldn’t turn your TV on and not have to watch the quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. It’s a
”thing” in fans’ minds. It is not reality. Do you believe Dak will grant Jerry a discount on compensation because Marcus Spears was once associated with the Cowboys And he has a job that allows him to talk about Caitlin Clark? Players know better. Fans fantacize.
 

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IM 54 and i cant believe you just wrote what you wrote. Why is it that Aikman, then Romo, Witten, and it will keep going get big Tv broadcasting deals when they are done.
You think Dak gets even close to his endorsement deals if hes playing for the Browns? You cant seriously think he would.

The Cowboys are on every sports show, EVERY DAY no matter what the situation is. If you dont see that the cowboys dont need to do any hyping of their team at this point, you are seriously putting your head in the sand.
I always chuckle when people feel attacked and then try to attack back with the same words. Instead of being a bit more creative. Especially when you write and have so much more time to be creative in you insults/attacks.

Anyways... Back to the topic: You are right.
 

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Being a member of the Dallas Cowboys does not provide advantages playing for other teams does not provide. It’s why the Cowboys have to pay every bit as much as other teams to secure the services of top players every team has to pay. Players are not lining up to be Dallas Cowboys. For awhile you couldn’t turn your TV on and not have to watch the quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. It’s a
”thing” in fans’ minds. It is not reality. Do you believe Dak will grant Jerry a discount on compensation because Marcus Spears was once associated with the Cowboys And he has a job that allows him to talk about Caitlin Clark? Players know better. Fans fantacize.
It's a free country man.. You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. CBS broadcasts 5 or 6 games per week. FOX broadcasts a similar number. NBC broadcasts one a week sometimes two. ABC/ESPN broadcasts one a week. What percentage of these games will be broadcast by ex-Cowboys? 15 games a week. At least 4 will feature ex-Cowboys as the analyst. So at least 25% of the color analyst jobs belong to former Cowboys. But you right.. It's only in my mind.
 

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Do the NBA model.

Have max contracts that require players to reach prerequisites to qualify.

Or figure out a max percentage of cap allotted to each position and you can’t pay a player more than that predetermined amount of cap space for their position.

The “next man up” model has got to stop.
All NBA contracts are fully guaranteed, don’t think the owners would ever agree to that.

So, if you don’t guarantee the contracts the NFLPA would never agree to cap positions.

It’s a moot point anyways, the current CBA doesn’t expire until 2031, so the current system isn’t changing. The owners cannot make any material change without NFLPA ratification.
 

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It's a free country man.. You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. CBS broadcasts 5 or 6 games per week. FOX broadcasts a similar number. NBC broadcasts one a week sometimes two. ABC/ESPN broadcasts one a week. What percentage of these games will be broadcast by ex-Cowboys? 15 games a week. At least 4 will feature ex-Cowboys as the analyst. So at least 25% of the color analyst jobs belong to former Cowboys. But you right.. It's only in my mind.
Do you believe they’re hired because they’re ex-Cowboys players? Do you believe network executives meet and decide to hire commentators and analyst because they feel the success of their broadcasts depend on having ex-Cowboys players doing voice and color? If that were the case 100% of commentators and analysts at every network would be ex-Cowboys players. If a player wants to go into that line of work after his playing career he does not need “ex-Cowboys player” on his resume. Fans’ perception rarely is reality. Perhaps getting to a Super Bowl requires fewer future sports commentators and more dedicated football players.
 

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If this is true why is he 0-3 head to head while Lamb is 3-0? Okay okay yes I'm being facetious but people bring up that stupid head to head argument all time time and it even looks stupid when someone as brilliant as I type it! LMAO! The simple answer to your question about why the Cowboys are always expected to set the market. There are two very simple and obvious reasons for this. The Cowboys are the richest franchise in the game and thanks their ridiculous popularity their players carry the highest possible profile. Any star player on the Cowboys is almost instantly equated with the best at their position which equates to needs to be the highest paid at their position. Not saying it's right or wrong.. It just is..
But the statements not even true we're not setting the market it ebbs and flows from team to team when they have players come up anybody that's in the same realm of talent just like Justin Jefferson just set the damn market I mean how is it that that statement is true when other teams have just paid a bunch of people and they've been resetting the market A.J. Brown Smith you know with the Eagles they reset the market it just happens to be we're up next but then how about jamar chase and then Brandon iuke wants to get paid as well I mean we are not constantly setting the market before Ezekiel Elliott it was Todd Gurley and a couple other running backs making some big time money we did not set the market before that it was other teams and then our turn just rolled around I I don't get why people think we're constantly set in the market Prescott's contract right now is the 11th in the league so all these quarterbacks ahead of them that's been signed in the last three years those teams are setting the market now Prescott's coming due but that's not saying the Cowboys are setting the market they're just using right now because we have so many players coming up for contracts because we draft well and they're superstars and we either gotta pay them or trade them...
 

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Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.
Micah will be the highest paid non QB ever not because he's a Cowboy, but because he racks up HUGE number of sacks (in Sept, Oct, and Nov that is...not so much after that). Still though, Jerruh will pay 5 % more than a competent GM would, because he's feeble minded and easily outwitted by agents and everyone. But still, regardless of GM he'd be the highest.

IF ceedee is the highest, it won't be because he's a Cowboy, it will be because Jerruh waited too long, which drives the price up (every NEW mega deal is always a bit higher than one previously signed, even if the players are exactly equal. Plus...once again Jerruh will pay an "idiot tax" that other GMs don't have to pay, because, well, they aren't idiots.

Dak won't be the highest paid player, because he's not an elite QB. He's just kinda good, but flat out horrible come playoff time. Even as dopey and senile as Jerruh is, he still can't bumble the deal THAT badly to make Dak the highest. He'll probably pay him 15% more than another GM would.... but there's so much room between Dak and the top, clutch, playoff winning QBs that he won't bridge that gap entirely by overpaying

But if it makes you feel better to think we pay more than others because WE DEM, and not because of our feeble minded owner who urinates in his pants, then knock urself out
 

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totally agree, but it is up to some owners to play hard ball. Here Lamb, we think you are a 33 million guy. Weve tagged you, dont like this offer, play for 17 million. Or sit and get no year of service credit. You want to be the next Levean Bell?
Love that hard-liner talk!
 

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Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.
It’s not just Jerry Jones…it’s the same for all GMs.
 

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It's a free country man.. You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. CBS broadcasts 5 or 6 games per week. FOX broadcasts a similar number. NBC broadcasts one a week sometimes two. ABC/ESPN broadcasts one a week. What percentage of these games will be broadcast by ex-Cowboys? 15 games a week. At least 4 will feature ex-Cowboys as the analyst. So at least 25% of the color analyst jobs belong to former Cowboys. But you right.. It's only in my mind.
I'm surprised there isn't more. If Emmitt could talk he would be included.
 

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you can not be serious? Of course the Chiefs could let Hill go. They have Mahomes. The "Patriot way," now works in KC because of who the QB is. The Patriot way doesnt work in Pats land anymore because they have crap at QB.

So while that strategy sounds and looks great on paper, it doesnt work if you dont have the right qb.
Well, the Dallas /Jones way hasn't worked for 30 years either. Under Jimmy, the way described did work. If your team was not going anywhere, trade away a few of your best assets to gain even more assets, via the draft.
Everyone knows the Herschel Walker deal. No, I am not saying Dallas will get that boatload back for Lamb and Parsons. But what I am saying, Lions sure got a chunk back trading Stafford to the Rams. Chiefs got a nice load for Hill. Texans got 5 draft picks for Watson.
Dallas is in cap crisis OR you kick the problem AGAIN a few years down the path to only have an even BIGGER crisis to deal with. Get value from a few of your stars before they just walk away and then you get NOTHING. That is what hurts a franchise.
 

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I'm surprised there isn't more. If Emmitt could talk he would be included.
I recall several years ago he did get a couple of shots at being a studio analyst several years ago, first with NFL Network, then with ESPN.
 

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Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.
Have you been watching? Lots of free agents are resetting the market this off season and none of them play for the Cowboys. I know it may feel that way but the numbers don’t lie.

What was the last contract where the cowboys set the market? Zeke six years ago?
 

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Have you been watching? Lots of free agents are resetting the market this off season and none of them play for the Cowboys. I know it may feel that way but the numbers don’t lie.

What was the last contract where the cowboys set the market? Zeke six years ago?
Was waiting for somebody to bring facts into this thread
 
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