Why is no one talking about the Pats resting people?

tyke1doe

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Chocolate Lab;1858759 said:
They seemingly would have more to lose than anyone if they got a key player hurt... So why is there so much talk about every other team resting players but not them?

Are you just emerging from under a rock or something? :confused:

First, it has been discussed whether the Pats should rest their players, but in the context of the perfect season.

Second, the reason why it's not the same is because the Pats are trying to go 16-0. Surely, you knew this. I don't see the necessity of this thread other than to take another swipe at the Pats? :confused:
 

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tyke1doe;1858823 said:
First, it has been discussed whether the Pats should rest their players, but in the context of the perfect season.

Huh?

Second, the reason why it's not the same is because the Pats are trying to go 16-0. Surely, you knew this. I don't see the necessity of this thread other than to take another swipe at the Pats? :confused:

I never mind taking a swipe at the Pats, but how is this a swipe at them? They haven't done anything wrong (this time). Do you not understand the question?
 

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Gangsta Spanksta;1858802 said:
I don't wish injury on any player, but when the Pats run up the score and something bad happens I sure won't feel sorry for them.

There it is.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1858844 said:

NFL commentators have been discussing whether the Patriots should rest their players or whether they should go for the record. The discussion has always been within the context of the perfect season, i.e., if they are 15-0, then they should go for it, if they're not, they should rest their starters.

I never mind taking a swipe at the Pats, but how is this a swipe at them? They haven't done anything wrong (this time). Do you not understand the question?

I understood the question. I just don't see the relevance in comparing the Pats situation with any other team's situation. No other team is undefeated. The Pats are. That is why comparing their situation is different. If they're leading 38-0 by the third quarter or earlier, I can expect their starters to be pulled. But if it's a close game into the fourth quarter, I would expect that their starters will remain in the game because they're chasing history.

And I wouldn't blame them. As for as possible injuries, you can't play the game like that just like you can't not cross the street because you're worried about getting hit by a car.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1858759 said:
They seemingly would have more to lose than anyone if they got a key player hurt... So why is there so much talk about every other team resting players but not them?

Dear Einstein: Maybe because the Pats have a chance to go undefeated.
:rolleyes:

Look, you attended the Temple School System, right?

:D
 

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16-0 will be easy for them cause the Giants are resting their starters.
 

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I hope they go 16-0 ----It will make it that much sweeter when we beat them
in the superbowl
 

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Chocolate Lab;1858759 said:
They seemingly would have more to lose than anyone if they got a key player hurt... So why is there so much talk about every other team resting players but not them?

Because unlike most head coaches, Belichick understands that resting players for the final game is a DUMB thing to do, not a smart thing. You go into the playoffs with a win and with your players sharp, not with a loss and your players dull after sitting for 3 weeks.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1858759 said:
They seemingly would have more to lose than anyone if they got a key player hurt... So why is there so much talk about every other team resting players but not them?

Because they are trying to achive something very special. Granted if Brady or Moss were to take a major injury in this game the Pats brain trust will come into question.
 

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justbob;1859018 said:
I hope they go 16-0 ----It will make it that much sweeter when we beat them
in the superbowl
Me too. I'm worried that if they lose that they'll have a chip on their shoulder.

If they go 16-0 and make it 18-0 going into Arizona, maybe there's a better chance of them sort of overlooking the NFC rep (read:the Cowboys :D)
 

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Chocolate Lab;1858775 said:
Obviously, going undefeated is the reason... But the reason you wouldn't play starters the whole game is so they don't get hurt. That doesn't change just because you haven't lost a game yet. If it's smart to rest guys and get them out of harm's way, the logic doesn't change just because you're undefeated. If Moss or Brady got hurt in a 17-10 game in the 3rd quarter and they didn't win it all, it would be a total disaster for them.

Are Pats fans even concerned about that? I don't know.

Part of my point is that if they can play a full cast, why can't we? Surely they have a few guys nicked up, don't they?
I think if you've already got a bye week wrapped up, you should play your starters. Two bye weeks in a row increases the chances of players getting rusty IMO.
 

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THUMPER;1859079 said:
Because unlike most head coaches, Belichick understands that resting players for the final game is a DUMB thing to do, not a smart thing. You go into the playoffs with a win and with your players sharp, not with a loss and your players dull after sitting for 3 weeks.

They have rested player before, this is different than in past seasons.
 

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Doomsday101;1859094 said:
Because they are trying to achive something very special. Granted if Brady or Moss were to take a major injury in this game the Pats brain trust will come into question.

They have rested player before, this is different than in past seasons.

It is not just that. Belichick has never rested his players going into the playoffs because he doesn't believe it benefits the team to go in on a losing note. He is right.
 

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peplaw06;1859098 said:
I think if you've already got a bye week wrapped up, you should play your starters. Two bye weeks in a row increases the chances of players getting rusty IMO.

Not all coaches look at it that way. I don't think there is a right or wrong with this. Phillips knows Dallas has some key players with some minor injuries and it makes no sense in risking them over a game that means nothing.
 

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THUMPER;1859101 said:
It is not just that. Belichick has never rested his players going into the playoffs because he doesn't believe it benefits the team to go in on a losing note. He is right.

In your opinion. As I mentioned not all coaches would agree with this. If they lose Brady in a meaningless game and it cost them a chance at the SB then this move was stupid because they can't win without him.
 

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Doomsday101;1859103 said:
Not all coaches look at it that way. I don't think there is a right or wrong with this. Phillips knows Dallas has some key players with some minor injuries and it makes no sense in risking them over a game that means nothing.
Well obviously I'm talking about healthy starters. You don't risk making an injury worse in a meaningless game, but if they guy's healthy, personally I want him to get some work.
 

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peplaw06;1859123 said:
Well obviously I'm talking about healthy starters. You don't risk making an injury worse in a meaningless game, but if they guy's healthy, personally I want him to get some work.

I agree. I expect Dallas starter who are healthy to see some action but I don't expect or want to see them play the entire game the risk vs reward has to be taken into account.
 

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The New Engalnd Patriots are chasing history. They are the first 15-0 Team in history and they could be the first to go undefeated since the 72 Dolphins.

If the Cowboys were sitting in New England's position and Wade Phillips talked about resting the entire starting unit I would be PO'ed to say the least and I gurantee you I wouldn't be alone on this MB.

Like Sean Salisbury basically said on ESPN Radio today, "When you ask me about which teams should rest players, just skip the Patriots, they are in a unique situation".

Bill Belichick's legacy, like it or not is already established, and an undefeated Season would only magnify that legacy.
 

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A lot of you have said you would like to see the Pats lose their first game in the Super Bowl against us. I , however would love to see them lose a playoff game instead.

If the Boys make it to the SuperBowl and the Pats were the competition I don't think I could take two weeks of the incessant talk of them having a perfect season. It would drive me absolutely bonkers.

This pursuit of perfection is already got me turning off my TV. The Colts, Cowboys and the Packers have had great seasons. The Cowboys have had their best season in history record wise and all we hear about is the Pats.

The Colts lost to them by a small margin without their best WR and the NE secondary is weak. Peyton will have a great day if the weather is good. Their run to the Superbowl is just as much in doubt as the Cowboys IMO with theirall out passing attack that can be stymied by bad weather. The colts have a much better game for bad weather.

I want them to lose so bad it is not funny!
 
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