Why Jason Garrett is better for Romo than Parcells

T-RO

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,082
Reaction score
16,852
Bill Parcells and his Spotlight.
Bill Parcells wanted the control and credit wherever he went. If a reporter rose too high in a room he would be intent on taking the guy down a notch. If a player started to receive too much spotlight (in his mind) he would undermine that player's leadership, or infer that the player was somehow dependent upon the Tuna--the player surely lacked essential ingredients without Bill's deft hand. Parcells implied that only via his coaching (i.e. gelding and saddling) would his players ever fully achieve.

At first I welcomed some tough discipline after the Switzer, Gailey, Campo days....but too often the issue wasn't discipline it was Bill the control-freak. He didn't want the players to trust themselves or each other. He wanted them to look to him.

Parcells the Horse Whisperer and Romo the Untamed Stud.

Bill wanted to be credited for crafting, shaping and mellowing the "gunslinger" Tony Romo. He implied Tony was untrustworthy and must be monitored, throttled. He talked at length in his press conferences about how he had to "stay on Tony." Bill was the savior, and Tony merely a wild horse.

And how well did that work out?

Garrett's Belief and Problem Solving

By comparison Garrett has never made a single publicly demeaning or derogatory statement about Tony nor has he publicly taken ANY credit for Romo's impeccable 26 TD / 9 INT performance this season. Garrett has focused mostly on mechanical and pocket improvements. He believes in Romo completely and helped promote the "Romo friendly" theme. Jason never worried about a "Garrett friendly" locker room. Garrett never needed the spotlight.

Garrett has let Tony be Tony yet helped put in place some practical measures to make sure the ball was better protected. He didn't blame. He helped fix things.

Can anyone point to Garrett defending himself or his performance in the media?

Under Red's offensive system Tony has continued to flash his patented playmaking but has improved with his interior clock, and grown in making plays primarily within the pocket where defenders cannot attack the ball from behind.

Undermined by his Coach

It is Parcells himself who helped create a negative image about Romo...as an untamed untrustworthy gunslinger. He didn't want Tony too confident. I firmly believe that this slowed Romo's development, undermined Tony's rep with the players, and gave the press a negative storyline that they've readily latched onto the past few years. (Despite the fact that Romo has comparable turnovers in the past five years as Roethlesberger and Warner.)

I believe in Garrett
I believe in Tony
I believe in the Cowboys

Bill didn't believe. He belittled. Undermined. And left in the night.
 

theogt

Surrealist
Messages
45,846
Reaction score
5,912
Garrett defended himself after Tony threw him under the bus at the end of last season. But that's neither here nor there.
 

dcfanatic

Benched
Messages
10,408
Reaction score
1
T-RO;3209363 said:
Bill Parcells wanted the control and credit wherever he went. If a reporter rose too high in a room he would be intent on taking the guy down a notch. If a player started to receive too much spotlight (in his mind) he would undermine that player's leadership, or infer that the player was somehow dependent upon the Tuna--the player surely lacked essential ingredients without Bill's deft hand. Parcells implied that only via his coaching (i.e. gelding and saddling) would his players ever fully achieve.

At first I welcomed some tough discipline after the Switzer, Gailey, Campo days....but too often the issue wasn't discipline it was Bill the control-freak. He didn't want the players to trust themselves or each other. He wanted them to look to him.

Bill wanted to be credited for crafting, shaping and mellowing the "gunslinger" Tony Romo. He implied Tony was untrustworthy and must be monitored, throttled. He talked at length in his press conferences about how he had to "stay on Tony." Bill was the savior, and Tony merely a wild horse.

And how well did that work out?

By comparison Garrett has never made a single publicly demeaning or derogatory statement about Tony nor has he publicly taken ANY credit for Romo's impeccable 26 TD / 9 INT performance this season. Garrett has focused mostly on mechanical and pocket improvements. He believes in Romo completely and helped promote the "Romo friendly" theme. Jason never worried about a "Garrett friendly" locker room. Garrett never needed the spotlight.

Garrett has let Tony be Tony yet helped put in place some practical measures to make sure the ball was better protected. He didn't blame. He helped fix things.

Can anyone point to Garrett defending himself or his performance in the media?

Under Red's offensive system Tony has continued to flash his patented playmaking but has improved with his interior clock, and grown in making plays primarily within the pocket where defenders cannot attack the ball from behind.

It is Parcells himself who helped create a negative image about Romo...as an untamed untrustworthy gunslinger. He didn't want Tony too confident. I firmly believe that this slowed Romo's development, undermined Tony's rep with the players, and gave the press a negative storyline that they've readily latched onto the past few years. (Despite the fact that Romo has comparable turnovers in the past five years as Roethlesberger and Warner.)

I believe in Garrett
I believe in Tony
I believe in the Cowboys

Bill didn't believe. He belittled. Undermined. And left in the night.

:lmao2:

Romo would laugh in your face.
 

T-RO

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,082
Reaction score
16,852
dcfanatic, are you are Tony's agent? Masseuse? Maybe you've cross-dressed, blonde and buxumous, to get close and personal? If not then quit embarrassing yourself trying to speak for him.

Tony obviously liked Parcells. Bill had tremendous charisma. But that in no way changes the facts about what I am saying.

And the results speak for themselves.

Tony didn't need someone to monitor, smother and undermine him. He needed/needs someone to help identify and practically address the circumstances where turnovers were occurring and other functional ways he can get better. It also helps that Red has played the position and fully understands Romo's all-world skills and instincts.

Ultimately you instill belief or you don't....and Garrett does that
 

dcfanatic

Benched
Messages
10,408
Reaction score
1
T-RO;3209391 said:
dcfanatic, are you are Tony's agent? Masseuse? Maybe you've cross-dressed, blonde and buxumous, to get close and personal? If not then quit embarrassing yourself trying to speak for him.

Tony obviously liked Parcells. Bill had tremendous charisma. But that in no way changes the facts about what I am saying.

And the results speak for themselves.

Tony didn't need someone to monitor, smother and undermine him. He needed/needs someone to help identify and practically address the circumstances where turnovers were occurring and other functional ways he can get better. It also helps that Red has played the position and fully understands Romo's all-world skills and instincts.

:lmao2:
 

T-RO

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,082
Reaction score
16,852
For a guy with his own radio show you got nothing but a little animated picon.

I'm underwhelmed.
 

burmafrd

Well-Known Member
Messages
43,820
Reaction score
3,379
anyone who claims their OPINIONS are facts are to be laughed at.
 

birdwells1

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,837
Reaction score
4,074
T-RO;3209363 said:
Bill Parcells and his Spotlight.
Bill Parcells wanted the control and credit wherever he went. If a reporter rose too high in a room he would be intent on taking the guy down a notch. If a player started to receive too much spotlight (in his mind) he would undermine that player's leadership, or infer that the player was somehow dependent upon the Tuna--the player surely lacked essential ingredients without Bill's deft hand. Parcells implied that only via his coaching (i.e. gelding and saddling) would his players ever fully achieve.

At first I welcomed some tough discipline after the Switzer, Gailey, Campo days....but too often the issue wasn't discipline it was Bill the control-freak. He didn't want the players to trust themselves or each other. He wanted them to look to him.

Parcells the Horse Whisperer and Romo the Untamed Stud.

Bill wanted to be credited for crafting, shaping and mellowing the "gunslinger" Tony Romo. He implied Tony was untrustworthy and must be monitored, throttled. He talked at length in his press conferences about how he had to "stay on Tony." Bill was the savior, and Tony merely a wild horse.

And how well did that work out?

Garrett's Belief and Problem Solving

By comparison Garrett has never made a single publicly demeaning or derogatory statement about Tony nor has he publicly taken ANY credit for Romo's impeccable 26 TD / 9 INT performance this season. Garrett has focused mostly on mechanical and pocket improvements. He believes in Romo completely and helped promote the "Romo friendly" theme. Jason never worried about a "Garrett friendly" locker room. Garrett never needed the spotlight.

Garrett has let Tony be Tony yet helped put in place some practical measures to make sure the ball was better protected. He didn't blame. He helped fix things.

Can anyone point to Garrett defending himself or his performance in the media?

Under Red's offensive system Tony has continued to flash his patented playmaking but has improved with his interior clock, and grown in making plays primarily within the pocket where defenders cannot attack the ball from behind.

Undermined by his Coach

It is Parcells himself who helped create a negative image about Romo...as an untamed untrustworthy gunslinger. He didn't want Tony too confident. I firmly believe that this slowed Romo's development, undermined Tony's rep with the players, and gave the press a negative storyline that they've readily latched onto the past few years. (Despite the fact that Romo has comparable turnovers in the past five years as Roethlesberger and Warner.)

I believe in Garrett
I believe in Tony
I believe in the Cowboys

Bill didn't believe. He belittled. Undermined. And left in the night.


Good read.
 

tunahelper

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,686
Reaction score
2,158
BP was good for Romo then and would be good now. He preaches fundamentals and ball protection and guess what Tony is finally mastering.
 

casmith07

Attorney-at-Zone
Messages
31,538
Reaction score
9,312
tunahelper;3209632 said:
BP was good for Romo then and would be good now. He preaches fundamentals and ball protection and guess what Tony is finally mastering.

Bill Parcells is a deserter, and always will be. It's a matter of time before he deserts Miami.
 

burmafrd

Well-Known Member
Messages
43,820
Reaction score
3,379
he builds the team then leaves. Only twisted minds call that desertion. He was hired to turn things around and build a winning team.That is what he did.

I wish in some respects he had stayed one more year to really ground Romo and make him take care of the ball. But he was burnt out, and the TO mess was just starting. Jerruh was still on his redemption kick and can you imagine BP and Pacman? It was time for him to stop coaching. Personally I think his greatest year of coaching was 2003, he took a team with about 7 or 8 real players and got them to the playoffs. I mean think about it: Q for QB, Hambone as your primary RB, Mario Edwards at CB, Wiley at DE, Larry Johnson at center, Gurode at guard and I cannot even remember who played RT (think it was BLack, not sure), LA who was on his last legs, Antonio Bryant the headcase at WR, cannot remember who was the other. And our so called depth was a bigger joke then ever before. For real talent we had Witten, the Hotel, LaRoi, Ellis, Dat, TNew and Woodson, though Roy was still effective back then. Coakley too and that was about it. And they won 10 games!
 

NoLuv4Jerry

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,698
Reaction score
4,911
What and excellent piece. It takes a deep thinker to write and UNDERSTAND where you are coming from. And I completley get what you are saying. I could further what you are saying by actually going over actuall personell that the National and local media casually attribute to Parcells...but it would NOT be true. Not to discredit what Parcells did for Dallas....but this is Jerry and Wades team more than Parcells. And it is NOT EVEN close. I said I was not going to go player by player...but I cannot help myself.

Parcells brought us Barber, the current regime brought us Felix and Choice. So I say 60% of the RB succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

Parcells, is good with TE evaluation...he got Witten in the 3rd round. But he also spent a 2nd on Fasano. Anyway, Bennet and Phillps was brought in with the current regime...So I say 40% of the TE succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

Parcells brought us Ratliff and Spears and Bowen. Wade brought is Igor, Siavii, and Hatcher. So I say 30% of the DL succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

Parcells brought us Austin, Crayton and Hurd. The current regime brought us Roy Williams, Ogletree. Keep in mind that Austin has blosommed much more under Ray Sherman than Todd Haley. So I say 30% of the WR succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

Romo was UNDRAFTED and signed by the urging of Sean Payton. And has blossomed under the tutelage of the current staff. So I say 70% of the QB succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

He obviosuly did not draft Jenkins or bring in Hamlin and Sensabaugh. He did not want Newman, he wanted Dewayne Robertson, the kid the Jets got. And Scandrick is better than any CB on Parcells teams outside of Newman. So I say 75% of the secondary succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

Gurode was here when he got here and was close to being cut by Parcells. Flo was here when he got here. Jerry signed Davis. And Free it the BEST OL drafted in Dallas in years. Not ONE OL drafted by Parcells is still with the team. Colombo is on Parcells watch, but Joe Juraszek and Jerrys patient wallet must be considered when you consider Colombos development. So I say 70% of the OL succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

Spencer and Brooking are Wades guys. James is a Parcells guy...but the smaller version of James in Wades scheme is FAR more effective than the 260 lb. version in Bills scheme. He did not want Ware at #11, he wanted Spears and THOUGHT he could get Ware later. And actually he preferred Merriman over Ware. So I say 75% of the LBer succees cannot be attributed to Parcells. And I cannot help but point out Parcells is responsible for Carpenter, so keep that in mind when you evaluate the LBer position.

prior to Folks meltdown this year, you would have to argue the special teams succes is almost 100% the current regime.

In closing, this is NOT to bash Parcells, he was good with DL, TE, and WR development...but to emphasize what a good job the current scouting department and coaching staff have done. And it's bad enough the media would do EVERYTHING to discredit Jerry and Wade....but when you actually go through this roster, you can appreciate what Parcells has done, BUT also see Jerry and Wade have added more to the puzzle than Parcells lovers and the MEDIA would lead you to believe.
 

dcfanatic

Benched
Messages
10,408
Reaction score
1
bbailey423;3209667 said:
What and excellent piece. It takes a deep thinker to write and UNDERSTAND where you are coming from. And I completley get what you are saying. I could further what you are saying by actually going over actuall personell that the National and local media casually attribute to Parcells...but it would NOT be true. Not to discredit what Parcells did for Dallas....but this is Jerry and Wades team more than Parcells. And it is NOT EVEN close. I said I was not going to go player by player...but I cannot help myself.

Parcells brought us Barber, the current regime brought us Felix and Choice. So I say 60% of the RB succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

Parcells, is good with TE evaluation...he got Witten in the 3rd round. But he also spent a 2nd on Fasano. Anyway, Bennet and Phillps was brought in with the current regime...So I say 40% of the TE succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

Parcells brought us Ratliff and Spears and Bowen. Wade brought is Igor, Siavii, and Hatcher. So I say 30% of the DL succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

Parcells brought us Austin, Crayton and Hurd. The current regime brought us Roy Williams, Ogletree. Keep in mind that Austin has blosommed much more under Ray Sherman than Todd Haley. So I say 30% of the WR succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

Romo was UNDRAFTED and signed by the urging of Sean Payton. And has blossomed under the tutelage of the current staff. So I say 70% of the QB succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

He obviosuly did not draft Jenkins or bring in Hamlin and Sensabaugh. He did not want Newman, he wanted Dewayne Robertson, the kid the Jets got. And Scandrick is better than any CB on Parcells teams outside of Newman. So I say 75% of the secondary succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

Gurode was here when he got here and was close to being cut by Parcells. Flo was here when he got here. Jerry signed Davis. And Free it the BEST OL drafted in Dallas in years. Not ONE OL drafted by Parcells is still with the team. Colombo is on Parcells watch, but Joe Juraszek and Jerrys patient wallet must be considered when you consider Colombos development. So I say 70% of the OL succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

Spencer and Brooking are Wades guys. James is a Parcells guy...but the smaller version of James in Wades scheme is FAR more effective than the 260 lb. version in Bills scheme. He did not want Ware at #11, he wanted Spears and THOUGHT he could get Ware later. And actually he preferred Merriman over Ware. So I say 75% of the LBer succees cannot be attributed to Parcells. And I cannot help but point out Parcells is responsible for Carpenter, so keep that in mind when you evaluate the LBer position.

prior to Folks meltdown this year, you would have to argue the special teams succes is almost 100% the current regime.

In closing, this is NOT to bash Parcells, he was good with DL, TE, and WR development...but to emphasize what a good job the current scouting department and coaching staff have done. And it's bad enough the media would do EVERYTHING to discredit Jerry and Wade....but when you actually go through this roster, you can appreciate what Parcells has done, BUT also see Jerry and Wade have added more to the puzzle than Parcells lovers and the MEDIA would lead you to believe.

Uh...

Parcells hasn't been here in three full seasons. How was he supposed to keep building the team if he wasn't here?

You aren't making any sense.

The team was a playoff team in 2006. He left this as a playoff team.

It should have progressed somewhat since then.

That has not happened.

Let's hope it does today.
 

aquavita

Active Member
Messages
272
Reaction score
66
dcfanatic;3209401 said:

What's your problem? This was a good read, and i think points out what many who pay attention already know. Parcells is a good grocery shopper, but can't cook to save his life. Not in today's NFL.

He was way too stubborn and proud to be an effective gameday coach or player manager, which i think is obvious to anyone who paid attention.
 

T-RO

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,082
Reaction score
16,852
tunahelper;3209632 said:
BP was good for Romo then and would be good now. He preaches fundamentals and ball protection and guess what Tony is finally mastering.

Coming from a poster named "tunahelper" this comes as a surprise?
 

T-RO

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,082
Reaction score
16,852
burmafrd;3209645 said:
he builds the team then leaves. Only twisted minds call that desertion. He was hired to turn things around and build a winning team.That is what he did.

I wish in some respects he had stayed one more year to really ground Romo and make him take care of the ball. But he was burnt out, and the TO mess was just starting. Jerruh was still on his redemption kick and can you imagine BP and Pacman? It was time for him to stop coaching. Personally I think his greatest year of coaching was 2003, he took a team with about 7 or 8 real players and got them to the playoffs. I mean think about it: Q for QB, Hambone as your primary RB, Mario Edwards at CB, Wiley at DE, Larry Johnson at center, Gurode at guard and I cannot even remember who played RT (think it was BLack, not sure), LA who was on his last legs, Antonio Bryant the headcase at WR, cannot remember who was the other. And our so called depth was a bigger joke then ever before. For real talent we had Witten, the Hotel, LaRoi, Ellis, Dat, TNew and Woodson, though Roy was still effective back then. Coakley too and that was about it. And they won 10 games!

I won't deny there was good and bad with Parcells. His leadership style and personality is a lot like General Patton. There is a time and a place for it. But Parcells need for the spotlight and his conservative game calling were holding the Cowboys down.
 
Top