Why Jason Garrett is better for Romo than Parcells

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bbailey423;3209667 said:
Romo was UNDRAFTED and signed by the urging of Sean Payton. And has blossomed under the tutelage of the current staff. So I say 70% of the QB succees cannot be attributed to Parcells...

He obviosuly did not draft Jenkins or bring in Hamlin and Sensabaugh. He did not want Newman, he wanted Dewayne Robertson, the kid the Jets got. And Scandrick is better than any CB on Parcells teams outside of Newman. So I say 75% of the secondary succees cannot be attributed to Parcells.

...Spencer and Brooking are Wades guys.

In closing, this is NOT to bash Parcells, he was good with DL, TE, and WR development...but to emphasize what a good job the current scouting department and coaching staff have done. And it's bad enough the media would do EVERYTHING to discredit Jerry and Wade....but when you actually go through this roster, you can appreciate what Parcells has done, BUT also see Jerry and Wade have added more to the puzzle than Parcells lovers and the MEDIA would lead you to believe.

Good insights. I'd add that Parcells was drafting in the top 10...with two #1s that one year. Since then we've been drafting low. The free agency moves this past offseason were perhaps the best in a decade for the Cowboys--esp. from a value standpoint.

Wade and Red have a far better win-loss percentage than Bill. Clearly tonight they have the postseason issue to tackle.
 

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coblue;3209775 said:
Guys, clear me up on something, is dcfanatic the ******* that heckled Wade?

Wow if he is...I'd like to know so I can block him.

He says the team hasn't improved since Parcells left. That doesn't sound like a fan to me.
 

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He did not try to take advantage of Pete Hunter, that last game should never have come down to a BS overturned first down or dropped FG try. It defines his legacy, too stubborn to adapt to the situation.
 

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burmafrd;3209645 said:
he builds the team then leaves. Only twisted minds call that desertion. He was hired to turn things around and build a winning team.That is what he did.

I wish in some respects he had stayed one more year to really ground Romo and make him take care of the ball. But he was burnt out, and the TO mess was just starting. Jerruh was still on his redemption kick and can you imagine BP and Pacman? It was time for him to stop coaching. Personally I think his greatest year of coaching was 2003, he took a team with about 7 or 8 real players and got them to the playoffs. I mean think about it: Q for QB, Hambone as your primary RB, Mario Edwards at CB, Wiley at DE, Larry Johnson at center, Gurode at guard and I cannot even remember who played RT (think it was BLack, not sure), LA who was on his last legs, Antonio Bryant the headcase at WR, cannot remember who was the other. And our so called depth was a bigger joke then ever before. For real talent we had Witten, the Hotel, LaRoi, Ellis, Dat, TNew and Woodson, though Roy was still effective back then. Coakley too and that was about it. And they won 10 games!

Good post burm.

Never understood the negativity towards BP. He was hired to right the whip and that's what he did.
 

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dirtycallahan;3210285 said:
He did not try to take advantage of Pete Hunter, that last game should never have come down to a BS overturned first down or dropped FG try. It defines his legacy, too stubborn to adapt to the situation.

+1, dirtycallahan

Clearly. If Jason had been driving that gameplan we would have shredded them. Parcells approach was to always to deflate the football and "keep it close."

It's a strategy based on fear.
 

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T-RO;3210307 said:
+1, dirtycallahan

Clearly. If Jason had been driving that gameplan we would have shredded them. Parcells approach was to always to deflate the football and "keep it close."

It's a strategy based on fear.

Fear or not he had the team in a position to win.
 

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dcfanatic;3210222 said:
Uh...

Parcells hasn't been here in three full seasons. How was he supposed to keep building the team if he wasn't here?

You aren't making any sense.

The team was a playoff team in 2006. He left this as a playoff team.

It should have progressed somewhat since then.

That has not happened.

Let's hope it does today.
My overall point is Parcells is great....AND his reputation precedes him....so critics tend to emphasize his hits and ignore his misses. Maybe he has earned that right....but it does dismiss FACTS. And the FACTS are that Jerry, this current front office/scouting department...and this current coaching staff have had a BIGGER impact on the success of this team. And I am pointing that out because I KNOW the media would rather look ANYWHERE other than the current front office as the keys to the success of this team. Again, Parcells was very necessary...but he took this organizaion as far as HE could....and I admit we were in a bad place. But this current regime has done a good job taking the baton and HOPEFULLY putting the final touches for a nice 6 - 8 year run.
 

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Tony is still a Parcells guy. I've heard him say it in an interview.
 

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The game is not "Parcells friendly" any longer. Besides, the fat slob lost a step years ago.
 

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T-RO;3210269 said:
Good insights. I'd add that Parcells was drafting in the top 10...with two #1s that one year. Since then we've been drafting low. The free agency moves this past offseason were perhaps the best in a decade for the Cowboys--esp. from a value standpoint.

Wade and Red have a far better win-loss percentage than Bill. Clearly tonight they have the postseason issue to tackle.

LOL.

We have been drafting low because the man did his job.

Can you admit that Snookie?
 

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bbailey423;3210316 said:
My overall point is Parcells is great....AND his reputation precedes him....so critics tend to emphasize his hits and ignore his misses. Maybe he has earned that right....but it does dismiss FACTS. And the FACTS are that Jerry, this current front office/scouting department...and this current coaching staff have had a BIGGER impact on the success of this team. And I am pointing that out because I KNOW the media would rather look ANYWHERE other than the current front office as the keys to the success of this team. Again, Parcells was very necessary...but he took this organizaion as far as HE could....and I admit we were in a bad place. But this current regime has done a good job taking the baton and HOPEFULLY putting the final touches for a nice 6 - 8 year run.

Nothing wrong with this post and I am a huge tuna fan.
 

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T-RO;3210275 said:
Wow if he is...I'd like to know so I can block him.

He says the team hasn't improved since Parcells left. That doesn't sound like a fan to me.

Please do put me on ignore.
 

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T-RO;3210307 said:
+1, dirtycallahan

Clearly. If Jason had been driving that gameplan we would have shredded them. Parcells approach was to always to deflate the football and "keep it close."

It's a strategy based on fear.

It was a strategy being used with a young QB.

And you look at how Romo performed in the critical games in the next two seaons where he threw some bad picks and you should know that he did the right thing because we were one FG away from winning.

But you don't see the big picture Snickers.
 

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One of two things would have happened to Romo if not for Parcells.

1) He would have been rushed on the field by JJ and name puppet coach.

2) He would never have seen the field because of JJ and name puppet coach.

Romo wasn't sexy enough for Jones, he didn't have pedigree.
Parcells was the ONLY coach that had enough control to have a QB groomed in Dallas, Since Jimmy.

Some of you people are so blind. I had many arguments on this forum about the subject. JJ needed instant impact with the likes of Carter, Hutchinson,Henson and the rest of the fools HE brought in here.

Parcells and HIS staff are why we have Romo. He still needed some polish and this staff hie doing that but don't bet Romo would be Romo with out Parcells. The proof is right there infront of you, pre Parcells and our QBs since Aikman.
 

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dcfanatic;3210429 said:
It was a strategy being used with a young QB.

And you look at how Romo performed in the critical games in the next two seaons where he threw some bad picks and you should know that he did the right thing because we were one FG away from winning.

But you don't see the big picture Snickers.

You nailed it. That's the grooming process.
 

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dcfanatic;3210429 said:
It was a strategy being used with a young QB.

And you look at how Romo performed in the critical games in the next two seaons where he threw some bad picks and you should know that he did the right thing because we were one FG away from winning.

But you don't see the big picture Snickers.

Dave_in-NC;3210531 said:
One of two things would have happened to Romo if not for Parcells.

1) He would have been rushed on the field by JJ and name puppet coach.

2) He would never have seen the field because of JJ and name puppet coach.

Romo wasn't sexy enough for Jones, he didn't have pedigree.
Parcells was the ONLY coach that had enough control to have a QB groomed in Dallas, Since Jimmy.

Some of you people are so blind. I had many arguments on this forum about the subject. JJ needed instant impact with the likes of Carter, Hutchinson,Henson and the rest of the fools HE brought in here.

Parcells and HIS staff are why we have Romo. He still needed some polish and this staff hie doing that but don't bet Romo would be Romo with out Parcells. The proof is right there infront of you, pre Parcells and our QBs since Aikman.

Can't understand why people refuse to accept this.

Hey Dave, how's NY?
 

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jackrussell;3210557 said:
Can't understand why people refuse to accept this.

Hey Dave, how's NY?

Me either.

A tad colder than NC with a hole lot more snow from what I hear.

How are ya Jack?
 

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I think Romo has benefited from both Parcells and from Garrett. I think when Romo 1st took over it was good to have someone like Parcells standing over him I also think having a guy like Garrett as Romo has matured has been good for him in taking off some of the reigns and letting Romo take on more of the responsiblity.

When I listens to those who have meant Romo (guys from other sports, former players and coaches) the one thing I have heard from them is how Romo picks their brains to help himself as a players. No doubt BP was good for Romo and played a big part in Romo development I think Garrett too has been good for Romo
 

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dcfanatic;3210429 said:
It was a strategy being used with a young QB.

And you look at how Romo performed in the critical games in the next two seaons where he threw some bad picks and you should know that he did the right thing because we were one FG away from winning.

But you don't see the big picture Snickers.

I completely understood Parcell's articulated rationale at the time. I just think looking back that it was flat wrong. I think Romo would have advanced faster w/out Parcells publicly undermining him.
 
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