Why Jason Garrett is better for Romo than Parcells

[Vintage]

he builds the team then leaves. Only twisted minds call that desertion. He was hired to turn things around and build a winning team.That is what he did.

I wish in some respects he had stayed one more year to really ground Romo and make him take care of the ball. But he was burnt out, and the TO mess was just starting. Jerruh was still on his redemption kick and can you imagine BP and Pacman? It was time for him to stop coaching. Personally I think his greatest year of coaching was 2003, he took a team with about 7 or 8 real players and got them to the playoffs. I mean think about it: Q for QB, Hambone as your primary RB, Mario Edwards at CB, Wiley at DE, Larry Johnson at center, Gurode at guard and I cannot even remember who played RT (think it was BLack, not sure), LA who was on his last legs, Antonio Bryant the headcase at WR, cannot remember who was the other. And our so called depth was a bigger joke then ever before. For real talent we had Witten, the Hotel, LaRoi, Ellis, Dat, TNew and Woodson, though Roy was still effective back then. Coakley too and that was about it. And they won 10 games!

:laugh2:

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I completely understood Parcell's articulated rationale at the time. I just think looking back that it was flat wrong. I think Romo would have advanced faster w/out Parcells publicly undermining him.

Huh? What do you mean by that?

 

[T-RO]

You nailed it. That's the grooming process.

Since when does grooming require making publicly demeaning comments about your quarterback? Those comments stuck in the locker room and in the public's mind and created a stigma.

 

[superpunk]

"Honestly, I wouldn't be where I'm at if it wasn't for Parcells," Romo said.

 

[T-RO]

One of two things would have happened to Romo if not for Parcells.

1) He would have been rushed on the field by JJ and name puppet coach.

2) He would never have seen the field because of JJ and name puppet coach.

Romo wasn't sexy enough for Jones, he didn't have pedigree.
Parcells was the ONLY coach that had enough control to have a QB groomed in Dallas, Since Jimmy.

Some of you people are so blind. I had many arguments on this forum about the subject. JJ needed instant impact with the likes of Carter, Hutchinson,Henson and the rest of the fools HE brought in here.

Parcells and HIS staff are why we have Romo. He still needed some polish and this staff hie doing that but don't bet Romo would be Romo with out Parcells. The proof is right there infront of you, pre Parcells and our QBs since Aikman.

Dave you do raise a valid and interesting point. I agree that Jones was completely blind in seeing Romo's gifts. So Jerry not only doesn't get credit for drafting him or acquiring him he also doesn't get credit for any talent recognition even when it was under his nose.

It's difficult to say, however, how another coach might have handled it. Very hypothetical.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Since when does grooming require making publicly demeaning comments about your quarterback? Those comments stuck in the locker room and in the public's mind and created a stigma.

What demeaning comments? Don't get the anointing oil out yet? That stuff?
Parcells was right. Don't be a celebrity QB? Again, Parcells was right.

You are on a huge reach with this one. This staff has the luxury of a way more focused Romo because Romo realized Parcells was right.

 

[wileedog]

I completely understood Parcell's articulated rationale at the time. I just think looking back that it was flat wrong. I think Romo would have advanced faster w/out Parcells publicly undermining him.

Based on what? The fact that you don't particularly like Parcells?

Parcells was right about that too. The year after he left Romo becomes pop star sensation, heads to Cabo, and turns himself into the celebrity QB Bill warned him not to be.

Its taken 2 years of abject failure for Romo to finally understand what Parcells was talking about. He ditched the famous girlfriend, shut down the public life outside of football and matured on the field. Maybe we wouldn't have had the last two years of "Turnover Tony" if Bill stays.

Either way, this is all guesswork. We do know that Romo himself has said he was no way ready to take the field when he first got here, and he says he looks at things he used to do in 2006 and just laughs. He was a very, very raw product when he got here, and even when he took over for Bledsoe, and ultimately I think he was handled well.

Wish they hadn't lost David Lee though.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Dave you do raise a valid and interesting point. I agree that Jones was completely blind in seeing Romo's gifts. So Jerry not only doesn't get credit for drafting him or acquiring him he also doesn't get credit for any talent recognition even when it was under his nose.

It's difficult to say, however, how another coach might have handled it. Very hypothetical.

Ok let's pretend Parcells was never here. Lets say we went from (Name any coach after Jimmy and use his name) Do you honestly think Jerry would have paid any one any mind? After Jimmy and before Parcells Jones really really thought his way was the best way. It took Parcells to prove him wrong.

Why on earth don't people see that? Now I give JJ some props. For the most part, minus a few set backs (owens and Pacman) he has stayed the course.

With out Parcells, Phillips wouldn't have any say.

And quite honestly, I think Stephen learned more from Parcells than JJ did.
I think he is the reason JJ has been more open minded than any thing.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

"Honestly, I wouldn't be where I'm at if it wasn't for Parcells," Romo said.

Big fat fact.

 

[Doomsday101]

Based on what? The fact that you don't particularly like Parcells?

Parcells was right about that too. The year after he left Romo becomes pop star sensation, heads to Cabo, and turns himself into the celebrity QB Bill warned him not to be.

Its taken 2 years of abject failure for Romo to finally understand what Parcells was talking about. He ditched the famous girlfriend, shut down the public life outside of football and matured on the field. Maybe we wouldn't have had the last two years of "Turnover Tony" if Bill stays.

Either way, this is all guesswork. We do know that Romo himself has said he was no way ready to take the field when he first got here, and he says he looks at things he used to do in 2006 and just laughs. He was a very, very raw product when he got here, and even when he took over for Bledsoe, and ultimately I think he was handled well.

Wish they hadn't lost David Lee though.

I think BP was good for Romo but Romo did not ditch his girl friend based on what BP said and if you recall some here was upset because Romo was trying to qualify for the US open before training camp.

I have no doubt BP taught Romo allot and played a big part in his development. I think Garrett has been instrumental in Romo development as well.

I do not think Romo has changed all that much he is still going to enjoy life outside of football and just in case you forgot he did take a trip to Vegas during the break and of course a few questioned that.

 

[wileedog]

I do not think Romo has changed all that much he is still going to enjoy life outside of football and just in case you forgot he did take a trip to Vegas during the break and of course a few questioned that.

He was doing award shows and red carpet events last year. I don't think a low key charity event in Vegas is the same thing.

And I absolutely do not think the break up with Jessica is coincidence. I think he understood she was a distraction and always would be. I was very encouraged when I heard about it before the season that we were going to see a more focused Tony this year.

And he was trying to qualify for golf tournaments even when Bill was here, so I don't think that's a big deal. Getting into the US Open doesn't get his face on Entertainment Weekly.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I think BP was good for Romo but Romo did not ditch his girl friend based on what BP said and if you recall some here was upset because Romo was trying to qualify for the US open before training camp.

I have no doubt BP taught Romo allot and played a big part in his development. I think Garrett has been instrumental in Romo development as well.

I do not think Romo has changed all that much he is still going to enjoy life outside of football and just in case you forgot he did take a trip to Vegas during the break and of course a few questioned that.

I think Tony has taken a look back and decided he needed to focus. He has also matured and came to the realization he's a damn good QB.

I think the organization realized he needed to get his team behind him and made decisions to make that happen. Romo is now one of the team leaders they needed.

Well, we are moving deeper into the playoffs. I think it's ALL come together for Romo and the club.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think Tony has taken a look back and decided he needed to focus. He has also matured and came to the realization he's a damn good QB.

I think the organization realized he needed to get his team behind him and made decisions to make that happen. Romo is now one of the team leaders they needed.

Well, we are moving deeper into the playoffs. I think it's ALL come together for Romo and the club.

I think Romo has always looked to improve as a player he has said that many times. There is no doubt he is a more experiance player today than he was in 06, 07 or 08 and he will be even more experianced in 2010.

However he still enjoys playing golf being part of the celebrity golf outings like the one he attended in Tahoe this past year right before the opening of camp and as I said he also tried to qualify for the US open or the Tiger Woods event in Washington.

Romo has a life outside of football and some the things he loves to do will draw attention to him but he is not going to stop living his life nor should anyone expect him to.

 

[Doomsday101]

He was doing award shows and red carpet events last year. I don't think a low key charity event in Vegas is the same thing.

And I absolutely do not think the break up with Jessica is coincidence. I think he understood she was a distraction and always would be. I was very encouraged when I heard about it before the season that we were going to see a more focused Tony this year.

And he was trying to qualify for golf tournaments even when Bill was here, so I don't think that's a big deal. Getting into the US Open doesn't get his face on Entertainment Weekly.

He was doing many of the same things this past season. He has improved as a player yes he has and he has always worked hard people outside have made a bigger issue of these other things than what they should have. Romo is still in the public eye he is still doing things he loves to do. As far as Simpson he just recently broke up wit her but if you recall she was with him at the tiger wood event right before camp. Maybe people should let Romo have a life instead of acting like he does not deserve one.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I think Romo has always looked to improve as a player he has said that many times. There is no doubt he is a more experiance player today than he was in 06, 07 or 08 and he will be even more experianced in 2010.

However he still enjoys playing golf being part of the celebrity golf outings like the one he attended in Tahoe this past year right before the opening of camp and as I said he also tried to qualify for the US open or the Tiger Woods event in Washington.

Romo has a life outside of football and some the things he loves to do will draw attention to him but he is not going to stop living his life nor should anyone expect him to.

No one has denied he loves golf. No one has said he stopped living.

He simply looked back at his past distractions and changed how he does business. Allot of people do that. Every day people do that.
Why wouldn't Romo who wants to be successful do that?

 

[DallasEast]

Both Bill Parcells and Jason Garrett have been good for Tony Romo's career. Let's set aside all-seeing hindsight and embrace the good fortune of having an all-pro quarterback lead this team. In the end, it's all good.

 

[Doomsday101]

No one has denied he loves golf. No one has said he stopped living.

He simply looked back at his past distractions and changed how he does business. Allot of people do that. Every day people do that.
Why wouldn't Romo who wants to be successful do that?

He changed how he handles the ball and how he handles situations on the field. His major distraction was cut by Jerry Jones. Romo has always been a hard worker that is how an UDFA turns into a starting NFL QB, his road was allot harder than some #1 pick because he had to fight his way to get the opportunity to get playing time.

I think he has changed how he deals with the media but as we saw after the Irvin interview some made a big deal out of Romo saying he did not know what it would take since he had never won a SB but he knew what they were doing felt right. People outside make a bigger deal of things that need be and right now the only reason some have backed down is because Romo has proven his critics wrong

 

[Dave_in-NC]

He changed how he handles the ball and how he handles situations on the field. His major distraction was cut by Jerry Jones. Romo has always been a hard worker that is how an UDFA turns into a starting NFL QB, his road was allot harder than some #1 pick because he had to fight his way to get the opportunity to get playing time.

I think he has changed how he deals with the media but as we saw after the Irvin interview some made a big deal out of Romo saying he did not know what it would take since he had never won a SB but he knew what they were doing felt right. People outside make a bigger deal of things that need be and right now the only reason some have backed down is because Romo has proven his critics wrong

So, then we agree

 

[vta]

The reason a 2nd grader goes farther with what his second grade teacher taught him, is because of the grounding his first grade teacher gave him.

Appreciate them both for their contribution and look forward to 3rd grade with the right attitude. Apparently Romo has the right attitude, good thing for us.

 

[Doomsday101]

So, then we agree

If you mean as with most people they mature as they get older or the more experience you gain the better you can become then yes. But he will still do things that will be in the public eye that have nothing to do with the game of football and maybe now people will stop making a big deal out of that as they have done.