Why Mike McCarthy Must Not Be Back Next Year

[Chocolate Lab]

He's 7-3 with a backup QB that looks like he should be picking up his kids from school in a soccer mom van
5 days a week.
The fact that Big Mike can function at all around the circus that is Jerry's Cowboys should not be understated.
I'm not saying to keep him. Heck, I wonder if he even wants to come back.

This exactly.

I think Mike is a very good NFL coach. Is he a Landry or Shula, no, but I've grown to really admire the job he does, and I had no strong feelings one way or another when we hired him. For all the fans who blame him for everything, just know that there's a very good chance that the next coach Jerry hires will not be as good as he is.

I don't think Mike will be back, because we're going to lose a few more and fans -- like many on this thread -- will blame him for it. He makes the perfect scapegoat for Jerry, and it looks like that may have been Jerry's plan all along on this punted year: Do nothing in FA to replace the free agents you lost, then when the team doesn't advance farther, blame the coach who is in the last year of his deal anyway. Too many dumb fans will fall for it.

I actually hope we finish as well as possible -- whatever that is with the limited talent on this injured team -- and Mike goes to a Jacksonville or Chicago and has success.

 

[fivetwos]

Overshown Bland Parsons Diggs Tyler Smith Beebe Schoon Ferguson Lamb Kneeland I’m not going to go throughout the entire roster , Tolbert when targeted ….I don’t buy the “ drafting badly “ excuse for MM .

Schoon a prime example . Use the guy and see results . Instead it’s week after week a pass in the flat to 87 for 4 yards . A DC will be easier to find when you hire a young OC to come in here and figure out how to attack a defense as your next HC .

I’ve recently said that I don’t see the roster as being all that terrible, but it’s clearly not enough when you have inferior coaching/schemes due to the owners need to be seen as the main reason should they happen to have success. Refusal to figure out free agency and how to work the cap thereof doesn’t help.

The players you named are all solid, but theres no way they can keep them all long term. Shouldn’t they be rushing to try to win before that day comes? They don’t see it that way. It’s all about keeping the big stars in house so have to carry cap money forward. Who needs DTs anyway? Not us.

As long as Washington and the Giants continue to comply, Jerry is all good.

 

[maryquality]

I agree with you. But who knows what Jerry's gonna do.

 

[GoCowboysGo]

Agreed.

- Run D has never been addressed successfully
- Run O seemingly abandoned every game
- Penalties have seemingly never been addressed
- The team seems unprepared for every important game
- Seems there are rarely, if ever, effective halftime adjustments
- GB playoff loss

 

[RonWashington]

I’ve recently said that I don’t see the roster as being all that terrible, but it’s clearly not enough when you have inferior coaching/schemes due to the owners need to be seen as the main reason should they happen to have success. Refusal to figure out free agency and how to work the cap thereof doesn’t help.

The players you named are all solid, but theres no way they can keep them all long term. Shouldn’t they be rushing to try to win before that day comes? They don’t see it that way. It’s all about keeping the big stars in house so have to carry cap money forward. Who needs DTs anyway? Not us.

As long as Washington and the Giants continue to comply, Jerry is all good.

The ultimate blunder was extending Dak for no reason . And no I didn’t mention Dak in my rundown of draft picks that have stocked the roster .

 

[RonWashington]

Trysten, Mazi, Kelvin, and very poor DT play.

Diggs and Sam Williams both highly questionable at this point. Schooner was a bad pick because we didn't need him and needed other positions badly, and there were better prospects at those other positions.

Those misses should be part of the heart of our team. Instead, we still can't stop the run. And think how bad our LB's would be if Zimmer hadn't convinced Kendricks to go back on his contract?

Kneeland, Beebe way too soon to call good or bad.

Kneeland & Beebe will prove out . So will Guyton . You can’t question Diggs he’s been about the best cover corner for the franchise since SB guys like Sanders & Kevin Smith types. Schoon is finally being targeted and he’s getting downfield instead of these 5 yard dump offs to Ferguson .

 

[fivetwos]

The ultimate blunder was extending Dak for no reason . And no I didn’t mention Dak in my rundown of draft picks that have stocked the roster .

Probably yeah, but I try to stay away from that topic. It’s endless.

I understand why they did it….they aren’t capable of doing something like trading a Goff or Wentz and don’t want to lose that comfort zone of not being exposed. It’s still going to happen though. Let’s see.

 

[DuncanIso]

You could be right Pap. Jerry hates to have to hire a HC. He risks hiring someone who doesn’t like the way he plays with his toys. At this point anyone believing Jerry wants win more than anything is just not paying attention.

Kellen Moore.

 

[blueblood70]

This exactly.

I think Mike is a very good NFL coach. Is he a Landry or Shula, no, but I've grown to really admire the job he does, and I had no strong feelings one way or another when we hired him. For all the fans who blame him for everything, just know that there's a very good chance that the next coach Jerry hires will not be as good as he is.

I don't think Mike will be back, because we're going to lose a few more and fans -- like many on this thread -- will blame him for it. He makes the perfect scapegoat for Jerry, and it looks like that may have been Jerry's plan all along on this punted year: Do nothing in FA to replace the free agents you lost, then when the team doesn't advance farther, blame the coach who is in the last year of his deal anyway. Too many dumb fans will fall for it.

I actually hope we finish as well as possible -- whatever that is with the limited talent on this injured team -- and Mike goes to a Jacksonville or Chicago and has success.

He's a good head coach yes not great but what you're forgetting is his offense is just terrible his play calling in game adjustments faculty misuses the talent kind of backwards the way they used Tony and Rico last year then having all this on tape along with hunter and Turpin comes into this year starts out slow conservative it doesn't realize it after the Pittsburgh game here's the problem if you can't self evaluate you can't see stepping down demoting yourself and just coming out in public going I need to concentrate on the team so I'm gonna put schottenheimer back in the play calling and game plan duties for the offense if he came out and said that mad respect because he couldn't even self evaluate is why I don't want him back is that one reason his offense is borderline terrible the fact that he can't recognize how to use his own players to maximize their production you know their efficiency Rico should have been the starter in game one and running back by committee could have just been for getting him some rest but this game that they played at the beginning of the year for like the first six or seven games and then finally see Rico have a game where easily he could have put up 100 on that Pittsburgh defense and you don't use him the rest of the year until recently after everything's fallen and you pretty much have zero chance now Rico is a starter now Turpin on Thanksgiving gets a lot more movement no Turpin needs to be going out in more pass route targets beyond the line of scrimmage rico should have been getting 20 a game, I mean post Pittsburgh it should have been obvious and I don't even think Ezekiel Elliott would be here right now if they use hunter more last year but it seems like after the fumble he got put in the doghouse but maybe if they would've created the short yardage situations for hunter they didn't bring back ezekiel elliot..

So, I blame him and that's why he should be fired that's my take BTW , I don't care what he does elsewhere..

You realize in Jacksonville they did bring in a 2017 Super Bowl winning coach from the Philadelphia Eagles and he hasn't been able to get it done... But sure maybe he'll go have some success elsewhere but that doesn't matter to me right now the fact is he should have fired himself as offensive coordinator he didn't and that's the reason he should have been fired mid season....

 

[Momanpr100]

Jerry and Co. will be back. That's all you need to know.

 

[Bobhaze]

Kellen Moore.

Man I hope not.

 

[blueblood70]

Jerry and Co. will be back. That's all you need to know.

OK if you know that and you know it's gonna be like that for a while and it's been like that for 30 years and you love that narrative then why are you back why are that fan base back that no things are not gonna change if you think it's gonna be business as usual and you can predict every season then why do you even bother why make an effort why be in here doing special waste of time things I mean why do you even bother I I'm just curious why I'm just pick another team or stop watching football if you think this bothers you that bad.....


be gone..poof!!

 

[Momanpr100]

OK if you know that and you know it's gonna be like that for a while and it's been like that for 30 years and you love that narrative then why are you back why are that fan base back that no things are not gonna change if you think it's gonna be business as usual and you can predict every season then why do you even bother why make an effort why be in here doing special waste of time things I mean why do you even bother I I'm just curious why I'm just pick another team or stop watching football if you think this bothers you that bad.....


be gone..poof!!

That's the only place the blame lies, simple as that. This is they're culture. People always misplacing the blame. If you in Texas and want change, start putting the heat to where it belongs.

 

[shabazz]

I have a question. What is McCarthy's biggest accomplishment in 5 years? I can't think of one.

That question should have also been asked about Rayne Dakota before Jerry made him the NFLs highest paid player.

critical thinking doesn't apply to the coaches nor players with this FO

 

[Asklesko]

I disagree. Mike does his best with the groceries jerry buys him. He is practically working miracles.

 

[Praxit]

..only way we he doesnt come back, is having losing record this year.

Its perfect scapegoat. So far, he's 5-7. With 5 games left.

Right now, Dallas has no shot at post season. Should they skimp into playoffs.

WIth the plethora of injuries and in house problems, they've encountered. . That would be a feat in itself.

MM will probably get another 2-3 yr ext. Im with you, Bullet. I hope he's gone and wish him well.

Will see where it goes.

 

[shabazz]

OK if you know that and you know it's gonna be like that for a while and it's been like that for 30 years and you love that narrative then why are you back?

Because some of us are true fans of the Star.

We are free to rejoice in them or criticize them.

Ask that same question to Browns fans who have NEVER experienced a SB winning in the modern era......and they are among the most loyal fans in sports history.

We stayin.

 

[Homer]

for me personally its so difficult to rationalize why getting rid of MM would be a good move.

What coach can get us over the hump? something that the last 5 coaches have not been able to do.

And what is our standard here? what scale are we grading MM on?
If we are using playoff wins/super bowl appearances then he's obviously failed. But we must note that hes been no worse than Jason Garret, Wade Phillips, Tuna, Dave Campo, Chan Gailey and Barry Switzer (i include Barry because without Jimmys players, no way he wins in the playoffs).

If we use regular season wins then MM is at the top:
Mike McCarthy 42-25 (62%)
Jason Garrett 59-48 (55%)
Wade Philipps 34-22 (60%)
Bill Parcells 34-32 (52%)
Dave Campo 15-33 (31%)
Chan Gailey 18-14 (56%)
Barry Switzer 40-24 (63%)
I wouldn't be opposed to someone like Bill Belicheck, to see if he can bring some discipline.

Though i'm not a big fan of MM, can another coach really do better with this current team and current owner?

 

[exciter]

Let me say these two points first:

1. Mike McCarthy is a good football coach. (The best we’ve had since Parcells)
2. Mike McCarthy’s time in Dallas needs to end.

Somehow for apparently stingy financial reasons Jerry decided to bring Big Mac back on the final year of his contract despite Mac being the HC of the worst playoff loss in Cowboys history last January. Most HCs never recover from that kind of mental mountain to climb.

And just to make it worse for all involved, McCarthy and his whole staff are all on final years of their contracts, leaving the staff twisting in the wind in front of the players. And on top of that JJ decides to let the off-season be an exercise in how NOT to do things for a new season, setting up the exact predictable disaster we’ve witnessed in 2024.

So after two wins against less than stellar opponents, the talk is now drifting to the idea of keeping Big Mac? Here are the reasons (in no particular order) why that’s a very bad idea:

• McCarthy has had 5 full seasons to do something in the playoffs and has one wild card win to show for it. That isn’t going to get better next year. Year 6 will have no magic. Most modern era coaches who have deep playoff runs do it in the first 3-5 years, not after.
• Keeping Big Mac keeps a bad culture intact. This culture needs a reset. Despite being a good coach overall, his teams are penalty machines and never seem to have the discipline to pay attention to details. We need a coach with some kahones that can impact this culture despite the Jones illness that has crippled this team.
• McCarthy has an outdated offense. Yeah I know this year’s offense was almost weaponless. But Mac’s “west coast” style offense is a throwback to the past as opposed to what we see from the better teams. This team needs a new offensive facelift.
• Keeping McCarthy sends the wrong message. I know there’s no real accountability in this organization as long as Jerry and Giggles skate for their sins, but winking at the HC who has presided over a nearly year long home winless streak and the most embarrassing playoff loss in team history must be cleansed not renewed.

In closing, I feel bad for Big Mac. It’s extremely hard to function like even a semi-normal head coach with this ego-crazed owner. But if we’re stuck with Jerry, we cannot also be stuck with McCarthy. It will make it worse not better.

Right!
Can’t wait until Kellen Moore becomes the new head coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[OGSixshooter]

Let me say these two points first:

1. Mike McCarthy is a good football coach. (The best we’ve had since Parcells)
2. Mike McCarthy’s time in Dallas needs to end.

Somehow for apparently stingy financial reasons Jerry decided to bring Big Mac back on the final year of his contract despite Mac being the HC of the worst playoff loss in Cowboys history last January. Most HCs never recover from that kind of mental mountain to climb.

And just to make it worse for all involved, McCarthy and his whole staff are all on final years of their contracts, leaving the staff twisting in the wind in front of the players. And on top of that JJ decides to let the off-season be an exercise in how NOT to do things for a new season, setting up the exact predictable disaster we’ve witnessed in 2024.

So after two wins against less than stellar opponents, the talk is now drifting to the idea of keeping Big Mac? Here are the reasons (in no particular order) why that’s a very bad idea:

• McCarthy has had 5 full seasons to do something in the playoffs and has one wild card win to show for it. That isn’t going to get better next year. Year 6 will have no magic. Most modern era coaches who have deep playoff runs do it in the first 3-5 years, not after.
• Keeping Big Mac keeps a bad culture intact. This culture needs a reset. Despite being a good coach overall, his teams are penalty machines and never seem to have the discipline to pay attention to details. We need a coach with some kahones that can impact this culture despite the Jones illness that has crippled this team.
• McCarthy has an outdated offense. Yeah I know this year’s offense was almost weaponless. But Mac’s “west coast” style offense is a throwback to the past as opposed to what we see from the better teams. This team needs a new offensive facelift.
• Keeping McCarthy sends the wrong message. I know there’s no real accountability in this organization as long as Jerry and Giggles skate for their sins, but winking at the HC who has presided over a nearly year long home winless streak and the most embarrassing playoff loss in team history must be cleansed not renewed.

In closing, I feel bad for Big Mac. It’s extremely hard to function like even a semi-normal head coach with this ego-crazed owner. But if we’re stuck with Jerry, we cannot also be stuck with McCarthy. It will make it worse not better.

Agree on most this and can add a few others:

MM's draft picks have been selfish divas and not team leaders...and many of them SUCK. It's known that while Will McClay and team have an iron-fisted grip on that first pick, the defense/offense coaches get heavy input in the next few picks...and MM's picks have all been GARBAGE. No team leaders, no thought leaders...just divas.

MM has never disagreed with Jerry. Think about that. How many times do you think Jerry and Jimmy disagreed - even in a friendly way? Now, maybe he has behind the scenes but we do know that Jerry has publicly undressed MM...so...MM is the dog Jerry kicks when things don't go his way. The problem is that dog is the head coach.

MM's teams are penalty-ridden disasters. We almost always start the game with a penalty...on special teams, holding on offense and hands-to-the-face/offsides on defense.

In fact, while I do agree MM was a better X/O coach than Garrett - not hard at all - he's not a better leader of men. In fact, after the "Garrett guys" have moved on or got hurt, the team collapsed.