You are entitled to your opinion of Dak. You think he will be in the same class someday like these HOF QBs . I don’t .
Please cite in any of our discussion where I said i think Dak will be anything - good or bad - in the future. You will not find me taking that position. I am saying you cannot judge how good he will be in the future by comparing him to other QB's who started their careers with similar stats, who went on to be heralded players. You do not KNOW for a fact if Dak will rise to their level at some point or not. So as it stands, when you make finite comments about Dak's future, that is opinion based, conjecture ain't facts. Yet you frame it as if this is burning bush information.
Baker is not likely to be a HOF QB either , but I think he is a better passer than Dak . Playing at Cleveland and that toxic organization produces crazy things .
Cleveland is a vacation on a beach, with comped hotel rooms, and beautiful women, and free booze compared to the train wreck Jerry has created in Dallas. One of Jerry's major problems is his GM status. Outside of him not really being a football guy, his job title means he interacts with players. Yet his position as owner subverts the coaches position of authority. That is why Dallas is considered a country club environment where the players circumvent the head coach and go directly to the owner. The owner that thinks they are coming to the GM. But this is the same game children of divorce play with their parents by going to the one who will override the decision of the other so the kid can get his way.
I doubt you could float that Cleveland is toxic compared to Dallas to many who will agree.
Playing injured last year affected baker also .
Funny how you give Mayfield the benefit of the doubt and grade on the curve when it comes to playing injured. Yet you are adamant about Dak's last season, discounting the ankle that takes over a season to heal which caused his calf injury.
Anyway , Jerry won’t make such trades just like he failed to make moves to acquire better talent before . He likes to stick to his picks until the end . That usually means 10 years . If you believe Dak is a HOF QB like these QBs mentioned, you will get a chance to find out the truth soon . I don’t think he is .
1. Being a SB winner does not mean HOF status in all cases. I have not compared him to them other than to agree they started with similar stats to Dak in their first six years. His future is clouded in the mystery of time. His success or failure in the future will be an enigma until the moment it becomes history. Your clinging onto this position. Yet I am stating his future is something we both have no knowledge of, at this time.
2. Your 10 year comment is hyperbole and a strawman position to attempt to galvanize your comments. Jerry has cut bait as much as he has stuck with players. As it stands Dak is on a contract. Jerry will live up to his word on that front. Part of the reason is he is bound by that agreement both legally and financially. But he also does have an inkling of character when it comes to things like this. Not a great deal, but he has shown in the past he will ride the horse he chose. Up until....
And he has demonstrated - Dez, Cooper - that he will sever his ties, even with players he likes.
I find your position on this tenuous because it is fraught with assumptions and inaccuracies based on opinion.
Have your opinion as you choose. But the entire premise of this thread is centered on going after Mayfield and to jettison Dak.
You can't cut Dak, nor trade him because the cap hit will wreck this team for years.
And, it would take one season of Mayfield, if that, before you'd be right back here creating a 30 page thread on how Mayfield stinks on ice, and Dallas should move him along for someone like RGIII, who is a diamond in the trash. Now that was revealing the absurd by being absurd. But I think our first headbutting on this was when I suggested the idea of Mayfield was an opium pipe dream of fantasy.
Regardless of your comportment in our latest exchanges, it still is a silly premise because the grass may look greener, but Mayfield ain't better.
And why the Hell would he ever take 15 a year as a starter for the most visible franchise in the league? I believe you offered that as one of the reasons Mayfield would be better. Which causes me to believe your angst is based on his salary, like so many others to deride him.