Why the Justin Herbert contract is good news for the Cowboys

[CCBoy]

I'm really not big on giving someone extra money when he chokes in the playoffs and then is hot and cold during the season.

Not yours and not your plans.

 

[Sandyf]

The projected cap for 2024 is $256 million and bets are it will be higher, how high no one knows. The same goes for 2025 where the projection is $282 million although Vegas believes it will be slightly over $300 million.

Just a thought when projecting a salary and extension. Some are worried about Dak's salary but Parsons is likely to project to around $200 million for 5 years.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Those 2 void years mean squat even if the Cowboys contractually can cut Dak after 2024. Dak's current contract still will cost the Cowboys $36+ million in salary cap in 2025, plus another $11 million in dead money for 2026.

The term dead money, which is used when looking at an NFL contract, is the amount of money which still needs to be accounted for on the salary cap after the player's contract is no longer in effect.Jun 1, 2023

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You just don't get it.

No, I get it, I know that there's dead money. But you were talking about what his cap hit was in previous years without accounting for the two void years.

You said he counted $40m against the cap, and it was not correct because, primarily, you didn't account for the void years.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

The projected cap for 2024 is $256 million and bets are it will be higher, how high no one knows. The same goes for 2025 where the projection is $282 million although Vegas believes it will be slightly over $300 million.

Just a thought when projecting a salary and extension. Some are worried about Dak's salary but Parsons is likely to project to around $200 million for 5 years.

Yea people need to start realizing that passrushers are going to start approaching that $40m number too. Aaron Donald is already over $30

 

[America's Cowboy]

No, I get it, I know that there's dead money. But you were talking about what his cap hit was in previous years without accounting for the two void years.

You said he counted $40m against the cap, and it was not correct because, primarily, you didn't account for the void years.

SMDH! I'm talking to a damn rock!!!

 

[J_Allen]

Not yours and not your plans.

I guess you are new to how message boards work?

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

SMDH! I'm talking to a damn rock!!!

It's your own words:

While we're on the subject of how much Dak's $40 million/year salary is costing the team's $225 million salary cap space limit right now, Dak's $40 mil/year is using up 18% of the team's full salary cap space. That's a lot more than the 15% you guesstimated.

That 18% is a completely wrong number, it has never been true. Call me a rock if you want, the numbers you posted were wrong.

 

[America's Cowboy]

It's your own words:

That 18% is a completely wrong number, it has never been true. Call me a rock if you want, the numbers you posted were wrong.

Just stop wasting my time.

 

[LonnieElam]

This is the one thing I'm totally against Dak for the sake of the team: paying him $50+ mil/year. That's just crazy and extremely team debilitating stuff. Them owners have lost it. $40 mil/year is already too much for any starting QB. Now it's up to $52 mil/year?

They just need to get rid of the salary cap altogether so the Cowboys actually have a chance.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Just stop wasting my time.

Admit you posted wrong numbers lol

 

[CCBoy]

I guess you are new to how message boards work?

Don't assume...and who are you? The hall monitor...or someone important to bend an ear over, maybe...even grander, you reinvented English and sentence structure to be understood.

Even better, recreated football to comply with your own convenience. You buy it!

 

[CCBoy]

Just stop wasting my time.

Wasting your time?

 

[blueblood70]

If he becomes Troy Aikman, who cares? If he doesn't, then who cares then...he's gone.

How about our offensive line in run game become what we had in the 90s how about we have a coach like Jimmy Johnson and that coaching staff how about we get a defense that actually also shows up in the biggest games how about that Troy Aikman did not lead this team he was helped and carried by one of the greatest run games in the history of the NFL

if we get Prescott that in the playoffs where the offensive line shows up and actually dominates both in the run game and gives Prescott some time we will win more games in the playoffs that's a fact.. Troy Aikman was only Troy Aikman because of the rest of the team around him was full of hall of Famers if you don't remember which included the line and the run game. When we all say it starts and ends in the trenches we've been lacking there on both sides of the ball but we're going to keep talking about the offense we don't need Prescott to become Troy Aikman he already puts up numbers like that or better what he needs in the biggest game against the best defenses the rest of the team to show up so that way he can be himself. I never watched one game in the 90s that I could remember in the playoffs or the Super bowl that Troy Aikman carried this team without help, lots of help..

So again I don't care about the money or the contracts I'm saying that talking about the money and the contract have nothing to do with real football because we don't have any say or input on how this team is put together who's going to be on it who's not the roster is up to the management we could talk about all we want it's not gonna get the pads on so we can start debating some games help anything we just need to get the pads on so we could start debating some games.. I'll take a 11 on 11 scrimmage against another team I mean just get some hitting started..

 

[BigStar]

Adam Prasifka

AdamJT13? Would explain how he was so sharp regarding the cap.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is the one thing I'm totally against Dak for the sake of the team: paying him $50+ mil/year. That's just crazy and extremely team debilitating stuff. Them owners have lost it. $40 mil/year is already too much for any starting QB. Now it's up to $52 mil/year?

We are going to have Billion $$ QB’s soon.

Why not, I’d rather the players get their deserved take than the owners gulping all of the profits. The players are the product.

 

[CCBoy]

We are going to have Billion $$ QB’s soon.

Why not, I’d rather the players get their deserved take than the owners gulping all of the profits. The players are the product.

Have them just run the franchise then...

 

[Diehardblues]

Have them just run the franchise then...

That’s up to the owners invested and Mgmt . Much like any entertainment business.

It’s not the “ Talents” responsibility to meet the budget.

If the money is there they should negotiate for their fair share pending what the market will bare.

 

[john van brocklin]

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...-extension-good-news-stephen-jones-salary-cap

The Cowboys need to re-work QB Dak Prescott’s contract at some point before 2024, so the Justin Herbert extension is relevant.

Herbert’s deal is noted as five years, $262.5 million, the biggest ever for the NFL. On the surface you would think that this would be bad news for the Cowboys, as Dak Prescott’s own $40 million per year contract has only about 18 months left before it expires.



This is good news for the Cowboys in two ways. First, it gives them a precedent to point to in negotiations with Dak’s agent, that other quarterbacks are signing deals early and still reaching the top of the market. Second, it gives the Cowboys some precedent to point to if other veteran players try to use a new Dak extension as justification that they need a new deal with two years remaining. The Cowboys can claim a ‘QB exception rule’ for revisiting deals that early.

The next aspect of the extension that is good news for the Cowboys is the length of the deal, Herbert’s contract makes eight of the top-10 quarterback contracts in annual value, that are all at least five-year contracts. Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, and Josh Allen have all signed at least five-year contracts, with all but Jackson and Watson signing those deals as extensions.




...A five-year extension is much more valuable to the team than a four-year deal because of the freedom it gives Stephen Jones and Adam Prasifka to move the cap charges around year to year. Dak has a great deal of leverage in his negotiations with the team because he is their most important player and the keystone the team is built around. But the Justin Herbert contract, as well as the other recent quarterback deals have given the Cowboys some help as they go to Dak’s camp with a clear outline of what the his value is on the quarterback market, with a great deal of certainty.

Thanks for explaining.
You have to be an accountant to be an NFL Fan these days!!!

 

[J_Allen]

Don't assume...and who are you? The hall monitor...or someone important to bend an ear over, maybe...even grander, you reinvented English and sentence structure to be understood.

Even better, recreated football to comply with your own convenience. You buy it!

Like I said, I don't think you understand how message boards are supposed to work.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...-extension-good-news-stephen-jones-salary-cap

The Cowboys need to re-work QB Dak Prescott’s contract at some point before 2024, so the Justin Herbert extension is relevant.

Herbert’s deal is noted as five years, $262.5 million, the biggest ever for the NFL. On the surface you would think that this would be bad news for the Cowboys, as Dak Prescott’s own $40 million per year contract has only about 18 months left before it expires.



This is good news for the Cowboys in two ways. First, it gives them a precedent to point to in negotiations with Dak’s agent, that other quarterbacks are signing deals early and still reaching the top of the market. Second, it gives the Cowboys some precedent to point to if other veteran players try to use a new Dak extension as justification that they need a new deal with two years remaining. The Cowboys can claim a ‘QB exception rule’ for revisiting deals that early.

The next aspect of the extension that is good news for the Cowboys is the length of the deal, Herbert’s contract makes eight of the top-10 quarterback contracts in annual value, that are all at least five-year contracts. Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, and Josh Allen have all signed at least five-year contracts, with all but Jackson and Watson signing those deals as extensions.




...A five-year extension is much more valuable to the team than a four-year deal because of the freedom it gives Stephen Jones and Adam Prasifka to move the cap charges around year to year. Dak has a great deal of leverage in his negotiations with the team because he is their most important player and the keystone the team is built around. But the Justin Herbert contract, as well as the other recent quarterback deals have given the Cowboys some help as they go to Dak’s camp with a clear outline of what the his value is on the quarterback market, with a great deal of certainty.

Holy cow