The best thing about pro-tanking or anti-tanking is that both concepts are beyond the control of fans. How both this rest of the season and draft next April will unfold shall either be accepted for reality or will continue the teeth gnashing that goes hand-in-hand with the misconception that wishing alone makes roster dreams come true.
People kill me coming up with all these scenarios as to why the Cowboys need to play to lose so they can get a better draft pick.. If you watched the special on the top 60 players in franchise history ask yourself how many of them were top 10 picks?
Emmitt? - Nope 17th
Roger? - Not even a first rounder
Witten? - second rounder
Zack Martin - Nope 16th
Dez Bryant - Nope 24th
Larry Allen - Nope - second round
Mark Tuinei - Undrafted
Nate Newton - Undrafted
Erik Williams? - Nope 3rd round
Bob Hayes - Nope 7th round
Drew Pearson - Nope undrafted
Harvey Martin - Nope 3rd round
Demarcus Ware - 11th close..
Michael Irvin? - 11th .
Bob Lilly? - 13th
Romo? - Undrafted
Flozell? - Second rounder.
Yeah.. that list is getting long .. so let's go to the shorter list..
Of the all time 60 greatest Cowboys here are your top 10 picks:
Troy Aikman 1-1
Too-Tall Jones - 1-1
Tony Dorsett - 2nd overall
Randy White - 2nd overall
Zeke - 4th overall
Tyron Smith - 9th overall
Deion - 5 th overall (by the Falcons)
Unless I have missed someone that is the entire list of top 10 overall picks who have turned into great players for the Cowboys. 7 out of 60. In fact there are almost as many undrafted guys on the list as top 10 picks. Point being, there is plenty of talent to be had throughout the draft. You simply need good scouting to find them and good coaching to develop them. I think the Cowboys scouting department has done a pretty good job finding good players.. I'm not sure I can say the same about our ability to coach and develop them over the past two decades. Here's hoping this coaching staff gets better at it. If they don't then it really doesn't matter where or who we draft, this team is going to suck. And we will continue to watch guys go elsewhere and win Super Bowls.. and look good doing it.
Thanks, this whole time I thought they were all QBs.Emmitt? - Nope 17th Not A QB
Roger? - Not even a first rounder Could have been the 1st overall pick in the 1964 if not for military obligation.
Witten? - second rounder Not A QB
Zack Martin - Nope 16th Not A QB
Dez Bryant - Nope 24th Not A QB
Larry Allen - Nope - second round Not A QB
Mark Tuinei - Undrafted Not A QB
Nate Newton - Undrafted Not A QB
Erik Williams? - Nope 3rd round Not A QB
Bob Hayes - Nope 7th round Not A QB
Drew Pearson - Nope undrafted Not A QB
Harvey Martin - Nope 3rd round Not A QB
Demarcus Ware - 11th close.. Not A QB
Michael Irvin? - 11th . Not A QB
Bob Lilly? - 13th Not A QB
Romo? - Undrafted If you think you can find another Undrafted Franchise QB, I'm Open to it.
Flozell? - Second rounder. Not A QB
The 88 Cowboys didnt try to lose, they were fine at doing so despite a full effort.Well..
We haven’t had a great season since we had a top 5 pick...
Maybe tanking was good..
Also, the last time we were winning Superbowls our QB was the #1 pick in the draft.
The 88 Cowboys didnt try to lose, they were fine at doing so despite a full effort.
Jimmy built a great roster.....one that took Jerry 4-5 years to destroy....but everyone on that team fell in behind Aikman, who was already in their lap when they came around. We will never know what may have happened with Walsh instead, but I doubt it becomes what it did.
One more win in 1988 and we end up with Tony Mandarich instead of Troy Aikman.
Would it have been worth it? No chance.
People kill me coming up with all these scenarios as to why the Cowboys need to play to lose so they can get a better draft pick.. If you watched the special on the top 60 players in franchise history ask yourself how many of them were top 10 picks?
Emmitt? - Nope 17th
Roger? - Not even a first rounder
Witten? - second rounder
Zack Martin - Nope 16th
Dez Bryant - Nope 24th
Larry Allen - Nope - second round
Mark Tuinei - Undrafted
Nate Newton - Undrafted
Erik Williams? - Nope 3rd round
Bob Hayes - Nope 7th round
Drew Pearson - Nope undrafted
Harvey Martin - Nope 3rd round
Demarcus Ware - 11th close..
Michael Irvin? - 11th .
Bob Lilly? - 13th
Romo? - Undrafted
Flozell? - Second rounder.
Yeah.. that list is getting long .. so let's go to the shorter list..
Of the all time 60 greatest Cowboys here are your top 10 picks:
Troy Aikman 1-1
Too-Tall Jones - 1-1
Tony Dorsett - 2nd overall
Randy White - 2nd overall
Zeke - 4th overall
Tyron Smith - 9th overall
Deion - 5 th overall (by the Falcons)
Unless I have missed someone that is the entire list of top 10 overall picks who have turned into great players for the Cowboys. 7 out of 60. In fact there are almost as many undrafted guys on the list as top 10 picks. Point being, there is plenty of talent to be had throughout the draft.
You simply need good scouting to find them and good coaching to develop them. I think the Cowboys scouting department has done a pretty good job finding good players.. I'm not sure I can say the same about our ability to coach and develop them over the past two decades.
Here's hoping this coaching staff gets better at it. If they don't then it really doesn't matter where or who we draft, this team is going to suck. And we will continue to watch guys go elsewhere and win Super Bowls.. and look good doing it.
So basically, if you are an organization who is interested in a franchise QB, this idea of not trying to draft at the very top of the draft is not supported, in general. This is not the only reason, of course, there are many, many other reasons why you might want to draft higher but really, if this is the strategy of the team, then you really don't need any more reasons then the one given above.
Because it happens every year, guys that teams would like to keep get cut or traded, but it's amplified going into next season with that much less cap space. Some will take a little less to stay but there will be many teams having to make hard decisions. I'm not talking about higher talent, but those mid-tier vets that can help solidify a unit or provide a valuable rotational role. There will be some bargains available in trade with lower round picks than other seasons with teams trying to get under the cap, as well. It will be an interesting off season.
Im an assessor and an evaluator and a problem solver. That is the vogue in which I watch the games, and enjoy doing so.It's my belief that we do have fans that enjoy being "miserable"...constant complaining...and try to encourage others to be/do the same.
Of course. And picking closer to the front increases the odds of finding better players.And that does not negate the FACT..that if you draft well...you can find good players anywhere.
Or that you can EASILY screw up those high picks.
And that is surely worth losing for.
There will be more cap casualties this year than other seasons and there will be solid players available for less than would have been expected in previous seasons. News Flash, I never once posted how the Cowboys would be able to take advantage of this off season. I simply posted that it will be an interesting off-season because there will be solid players for less than expected. It's silly that you got so bent out of shape over a general comment.You don't see how silly your explanation is. You seem to think that the smaller cap will affect every team except the Cowboys and that they will be there and able to scoop up these cap casualties. News flash, the smaller cap will also affect the Cowboys too. Teams will be relying on their draft picks and UDFA's both of which will be cheaper to sign than cap casualty vets. So either these cap casualties lower their contract demands to that of a rookie or there may be a large amount of them sitting waiting for injuries during the season so teams will sign them.
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You didn’t make your point.People kill me coming up with all these scenarios as to why the Cowboys need to play to lose so they can get a better draft pick.. If you watched the special on the top 60 players in franchise history ask yourself how many of them were top 10 picks?
Emmitt? - Nope 17th
Roger? - Not even a first rounder
Witten? - second rounder
Zack Martin - Nope 16th
Dez Bryant - Nope 24th
Larry Allen - Nope - second round
Mark Tuinei - Undrafted
Nate Newton - Undrafted
Erik Williams? - Nope 3rd round
Bob Hayes - Nope 7th round
Drew Pearson - Nope undrafted
Harvey Martin - Nope 3rd round
Demarcus Ware - 11th close..
Michael Irvin? - 11th .
Bob Lilly? - 13th
Romo? - Undrafted
Flozell? - Second rounder.
Yeah.. that list is getting long .. so let's go to the shorter list..
Of the all time 60 greatest Cowboys here are your top 10 picks:
Troy Aikman 1-1
Too-Tall Jones - 1-1
Tony Dorsett - 2nd overall
Randy White - 2nd overall
Zeke - 4th overall
Tyron Smith - 9th overall
Deion - 5 th overall (by the Falcons)
Unless I have missed someone that is the entire list of top 10 overall picks who have turned into great players for the Cowboys. 7 out of 60. In fact there are almost as many undrafted guys on the list as top 10 picks. Point being, there is plenty of talent to be had throughout the draft. You simply need good scouting to find them and good coaching to develop them. I think the Cowboys scouting department has done a pretty good job finding good players.. I'm not sure I can say the same about our ability to coach and develop them over the past two decades. Here's hoping this coaching staff gets better at it. If they don't then it really doesn't matter where or who we draft, this team is going to suck. And we will continue to watch guys go elsewhere and win Super Bowls.. and look good doing it.