Will McClay. Thank you, sir.

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Personally, I don't want Will McClay to continue to do work Jerry takes credit for. I don't care how much Jerry pays him. I want Will McClay to parlay the job he has done here into getting the proper title and recognition for the duties he performs. I want Will McClay to go somewhere and become GM and/or President. This is the JONES family business..and it will always be that way. You've done your job here Will...now go blaze you own trail and create your own legacy.
Titles are just that Titles they mean nothing ( unless people are superficial that way since some people need there ego stroked ) ------ If Jerry is paying him well, and treating him well, and he is happy, thats what matters !
 

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Will McClay is GM in all but name. In stature. In compensation. In responsibility. And in esteem among his peers. He's a great role model for minorities and he conducts his work on the brightest stage in football for the Cowboys.

As a fan of the Cowboys I don't want him going anywhere.
He's not a GM at all. He's assistant director of player personnel.

He was promoted from player research which is more from the scouting department not the administrative duties of a GM which includes players contracts, etc.The Scouting department and player personnel report to the GM.

Will would be more suited to replace Stephen who is VP Director of Player Personnel than Jerry who is Pres and GM.
 
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Titles are just that Titles they mean nothing ( unless people are superficial that way since some people need there ego stroked ) ------ If Jerry is paying him well, and treating him well, and he is happy, thats what matters !
Very naive comment
 

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Titles are just that Titles they mean nothing ( unless people are superficial that way since some people need there ego stroked ) ------ If Jerry is paying him well, and treating him well, and he is happy, thats what matters !

Not necessarily. It depends on the dude. Some guys (most guys) are going to want the respect that can only come with the title. Some are going to be content with money and atmosphere. Hard to say which McClay is, but he's going to get his share of offers.

Really, though, you can't build a competitive organization long-term if you can't build bench strength on your staff. We have to trust that we're able to do that because, with playoff wins comes staff attrition. That's part of what happens when you have a system geared towards ensuring parity.
 

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Titles are just that Titles they mean nothing ( unless people are superficial that way since some people need there ego stroked ) ------ If Jerry is paying him well, and treating him well, and he is happy, thats what matters !
Titles do mean something or Jerry would be more of a silent GM.

Will will more likely be offered a Director of Personnel position somewhere if he's interested but he's been with Jerry for years since he was an assistant defensive coach with the Desperados. He might be comfortable here. But it's why Erod said pay him so he's not looking to leave much like Jerry paid Garrett to stay as OC.

But to say a title doesn't mean anything is shortsighted if he has aspirations to enlighten his career further in the NFL. I'm not familiar with his personal situation or his ambitions.
 

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Titles do mean something or Jerry would be more of a silent GM.

Will will more likely be offered a Director of Personnel position somewhere if he's interested but he's been with Jerry for years since he was an assistant defensive coach with the Desperados. He might be comfortable here. But it's why Erod said pay him so he's not looking to leave much like Jerry paid Garrett to stay as OC.

But to say a title doesn't mean anything is shortsighted if he has aspirations to enlighten his career further in the NFL. I'm not familiar with his personal situation or his ambitions.
I do not know his personal situation or ambitions either, i am speaking on my personal experience. I personally could care less about Titles when you work somewhere you know who deserves respect among your co-workers a Title does not automatically earn that. You may have to obey and follow there instructions but that doesn't mean respect. I guess it depends where you work ! I had personal experiences with Higher ups who were obsessed with titles and they did not deserve anyone's respect professionally or privately. The flip side of that coin there were people who deserved to be in those positions that people would run through brick walls for that didn't get them. I appreciate everyone's opposing views on this topic but i'm speaking of what worked for me i look at the person not the title. For me i didn't care if people respected the title because the people that worked for me knew i would do anything to help them succeed and in return i expected the same.
 

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One of my biggest fears regarding the Cowboys is that another team would be inclined to pilfer him with a GM title and perhaps even more compensation as well. As long as Jerry and Stephen make sure to outbid the competitors for his continuing employment, there's likely an excellent chance that the talent level of this team will continue to improve. Otherwise, I would dread even considering the alternatives.

I'd venture to guess that the only fluff that McClay isn't afforded would be the GM title. Jerry wouldn't likely even consider such a drastic change of heart but if he did, he'd undoubtedly enhance his respect quite significantly in the eyes of the fans. Too bad his ego simply won't permit him to make that decision. Seems to me if a man serves the function, he deserves the title that goes with it as well. I guess some things never change.
 
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I do not know his personal situation or ambitions either, i am speaking on my personal experience. I personally could care less about Titles when you work somewhere you know who deserves respect among your co-workers a Title does not automatically earn that. You may have to obey and follow there instructions but that doesn't mean respect. I guess it depends where you work ! I had personal experiences with Higher ups who were obsessed with titles and they did not deserve anyone's respect professionally or privately. The flip side of that coin there were people who deserved to be in those positions that people would run through brick walls for that didn't get them. I appreciate everyone's opposing views on this topic but i'm speaking of what works for me i look at the person not the title. For me i didn't care if people respected the title because the people that worked for me knew i would do anything to help them succeed and in return i expected the same.
That's fine if it worked for you but we certainly shouldn't be using your personal experience as a measurement for all especially in a profession where titles normally do mean something especially a minority.
 

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That's fine if it worked for you but we certainly shouldn't be using your personal experience as a measurement for all especially in a profession where titles normally do mean something especially a minority.
I wasn't suggesting my view was the best ! just gave my opinion on the topic
 

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One of my biggest fears regarding the Cowboys is that another team would be inclined to pilfer him with a GM title and perhaps even more compensation as well. As long as Jerry and Stephen make sure to outbid the competitors for his continuing employment, there's likely an excellent chance that the talent level of this team will continue to improve. Otherwise, I would dread even considering the alternatives.
That comes with success. We'll lose more than just our assistant director of personnel unless we promote him within which Jerry or Stephen would have to relinquish their positions .

This is part of the casualty we have to live with when you have a Mom and Pop operation.

Im not overly concerned because I believe it's Garrett which is leading the way in our drafts. It's not only his vision which Will is assisting finding the right kind of guys but Garrett who has held it all together when they haven't found the right kind of guys.

Out of curiosity .. who gets the credit for all of those high risk which haven't worked out?
 

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I still think it's too early to get the annointment oil out just yet.

While it appears we might have finally turned the corner I usually wait to break out the champagne after we've won something .

Look how excited we were in 2014 and it just turned out to be another disappointment with some glitter amongst a slew of non playoff appearances .

Let's run a few consistent playoff appearances together with a championship before we begin calling all of this a complete success.

It doesn't mean we can't begin to feel some excitement but with our leadership which has often found a way to screw it up leaves me suspect. Sorry
 

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That comes with success. We'll lose more than just our assistant director of personnel unless we promote him within which Jerry or Stephen would have to relinquish their positions .

This is part of the casualty we have to live with when you have a Mom and Pop operation.

Im not overly concerned because I believe it's Garrett which is leading the way in our drafts. It's not only his vision which Will is assisting finding the right kind of guys but Garrett who has held it all together when they haven't found the right kind of guys.

Out of curiosity .. who gets the credit for all of those high risk which haven't worked out?

Just as the credit goes to those who have made good personnel decisions, the blame should rightfully go to the same folks as well. Of course, we aren't usually privy to being informed of that. Most of the time, I'd have to say it's anybody's guess. Around here, however, it's oftentimes a popular idea to choose the one we love to hate the most. ;)
 

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Way doubtful.

Jones should know how valuable Mcclay really is, particularly Stephen.
If Mcclay is the mastermind, then I suspect they can come up with a compensation that is commensurate with his role.
Equity compensation is a standard way to hold on to key employees using a vesting schedule, and a requirement to sell the equity at market value if he exits will insure Mcclay will not take the equity and work for the Eagles.
I dont know the ownership structure of the Cowboys, and whether it is all Jones.
If there are other investors or owners, then it should be easy for Jerry to swallow.
If not, it may still be easier for Jerry to accept making Mcclay a minority partner than a General Manager (loss of football ego).
 

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Jones should know how valuable Mcclay really is, particularly Stephen.
If Mcclay is the mastermind, then I suspect they can come up with a compensation that is commensurate with his role.
Equity compensation is a standard way to hold on to key employees using a vesting schedule, and a requirement to sell the equity at market value if he exits will insure Mcclay will not take the equity and work for the Eagles.
I dont know the ownership structure of the Cowboys, and whether it is all Jones.
If there are other investors or owners, then it should be easy for Jerry to swallow.
If not, it may still be easier for Jerry to accept making Mcclay a minority partner than a General Manager (loss of football ego).


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With the three children they are all equals.
 
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