Will not having a legit pass rusher hurt us down the stretch?

[kramskoi]

Yes I remember that game well and thought to myself, wow he finally go that monkey off his back.

He is more likely to fold though. Pats beat him repeatedly up to that point. Then I believe again later on.


Hey... What are you complaining about. If we meet them you had better hope that I am right lol

The Cowboys got Peyton in 2006 at Texas Stadium...that was a very sweet win for Cowboy fans as I recall. The Romo show was just getting started.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

The Cowboys got Peyton in 2006 at Texas Stadium...that was a very sweet win for Cowboy fans as I recall. The Romo show was just getting started.

This is what I am saying.


The defense was super aggressive. Pressing and bumping WRs off the line. Throwing off Manning's timing.

It was a thing of beauty.

 

[perrykemp]

Watts play would be called a pressure. And what happened?

That's a really good point. Hurries / Pressures are nice but let's not forget there are a number of QBs in the this league who can and do throw TDs when hurried.

Its impossible to throw a TD when you are sacked...

 

[kramskoi]

Agreed. These are the types of offenses that still give me some concern too (although we dominated a Saints team that can theoretically throw the ball).



Disagree here. Palmer and the Cardinals do not come close to presenting the same passing threat as Denver or Green Bay. Even if we thoroughly beat that team, the initial question remains. I don't think we'll really know how we stand up to a high-powered passing attack until we play the Colts in Week 16. The Bears have talented WRs but Cutler is so streaky it's hard to say whether that will be a test. And the Eagles do NOT possess a strong outside passing attack. I look at their receivers and laugh.

Yep...that Colts game will be a real test...although I still think that Rodgers is the one who would put them under maximum duress...dangerous man...on the run, in the pocket...very accurate, quick release and escapism that rivals Romo. It is possible we could see a rematch of the 1995 Championship game. I would not bet a shiny bent nickel on Cutler, but they will have the home advantage. Some payback is owed though.

The maddening thing about the Saints is, although their Aikman rating is insanely high on offense, they stand but 2-4. Their defense has really let them down and currently still languishes at #32 in FootballOutsiders ratings. They have gone from the outhouse, to the penthouse, and back again it seems!

 

[jobberone]

I can certainly agree...many times, like the Saints, they will make themselves one-dimensional. Lets be honest though, considering what happened in Dallas last year, their defense was pretty porous. If the current Dallas team had played them, they would have gotten whacked...straight up!

The combination of Miller and Ware, if they can both avoid wearing down toward the end (real possibility), gives them an edge that they did not have last year. The destruction of the injury-depleted 49ers was rather foreboding for the future, even considering the circumstances...Manning was playing pitch and catch...it could have been much worse.

Finally, it was Seattle's vaunted secondary that had a hand in said collapse of the Denver offense. It happened again this year in Seattle. Dallas simply does not have a secondary that is comparable. Yes, they play hard, disciplined and inspired football, but they will need to become MUCH better for a possible meeting with Denver. Eli had 3 TD's and was largely unfettered last week...that should be concerning because the older Manning has an even sharper knife. Dallas can certainly play keep away, but I don't know if that would be enough...I really just don't know.

I would also add that the Giants defenses of 2007 and 2011 (SBowl years) each had around 50 sacks for the season (52/48 respectively)...they were that disruptive and it was the biggest reason why they were able to derail the Patriots both times.

This is a very good post. We are getting enough pressure to force the ball out quickly enough that we aren't drowning in the secondary. We're doing marginally ok and that is a tad troublesome should we want to win consistently against better teams. My guess is we will get more pressure as time goes by with some additions and more playing time for some.

 

[kramskoi]

This is a very good post. We are getting enough pressure to force the ball out quickly enough that we aren't drowning in the secondary. We're doing marginally ok and that is a tad troublesome should we want to win consistently against better teams. My guess is we will get more pressure as time goes by with some additions and more playing time for some.

Looking back...perhaps I was bit harsh with the assessment, but Manning threw 27 picks last year, which likely instigated the move to an offense designed to get the ball away quickly and reduce the possibilities for mistakes. It is supposed to make his reads easier and place less pressure on the o-line. However, looking at what Philly was able to do to them, you have to wonder if it might take a while to get some stability there.

You could say that the new system saves Eli from himself when all is in chaos around him...but then you have the problem of a contracted passing game, especially when you can't get good protection. It will be interesting to see how this works for them going forward. Beckham and Cruz together will cause Dallas some real headaches next year if they don't get more pressure. The danger in this new philosophy for New York is that they are asking Manning to be what he has rarely been, namely a guy that can carry a team with deficiencies all around him. New York won SuperBowls with superb defense and a balanced offense...this new West Coast thing looks more like what Dallas has tried and failed to do with Romo. Eli Manning ain't Aaron Rodgers...nuff said.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/gi...oducing-the-new-much-more-careful-eli-manning

 

[jobberone]

Looking back...perhaps I was bit harsh with the assessment, but Manning threw 27 picks last year, which likely instigated the move to an offense designed to get the ball away quickly and reduce the possibilities for mistakes. It is supposed to make his reads easier and place less pressure on the o-line. However, looking at what Philly was able to do to them, you have to wonder if it might take a while to get some stability there.

You could say that the new system saves Eli from himself when all is in chaos around him...but then you have the problem of a contracted passing game, especially when you can't get good protection. It will be interesting to see how this works for them going forward. Beckham and Cruz together will cause Dallas some real headaches next year if they don't get more pressure. The danger in this new philosophy for New York is that they are asking Manning to be what he has rarely been, namely a guy that can carry a team with deficiencies all around him. New York won SuperBowls with superb defense and a balanced offense...this new West Coast thing looks more like what Dallas has tried and failed to do with Romo. Eli Manning ain't Aaron Rodgers...nuff said.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/gi...oducing-the-new-much-more-careful-eli-manning

I don't think you were harsh at all. We agree. I don't have time to watch our All 22 much less theirs but it appears the offense is favorable to Eli. I don't know why they aren't scoring more consistently but when they do they look good. Their defense is not good (nor as good as ours even) so they are going to struggle esp if their offense can't carry them. And you are correct in that Eli can't do that consistently. There is a reason the same names stay atop the QB rankings and have the most GWDs and comeback wins.

 

[JoeKing]

63.6 % 248 yds 3 TDs 0 INTs 116.7 Rating
Yeah Eli could have played much better.

NOT.

Okay homer.