Williams facing hazy future - Mosley - 5/24/08

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Once face of the franchise, Williams facing hazy future

By Matt Mosley
ESPN.com
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IRVING, Texas -- To know Roy Williams is to misunderstand him.

Six years ago, he was given the opportunity to become the face of the Dallas Cowboys franchise. As a rookie in 2002, he was one of the few bright spots on a 5-11 team, and his No. 31 jersey quickly overtook No. 22 in the Texas Stadium crowd.

But now as the Cowboys prepare to christen a $1 billion stadium in 2009, there's a good chance Williams won't be around for the grand opening. How could a player with so much promise completely fall off the map? Well, it's important to go back to the beginning.

In his first two years, Williams became one of the most feared players in the NFL because of his punishing style. Turns out, though, that Jerry Jones and his scouting department overlooked some rather obvious flaws in Williams' game leading up to the 2002 draft.


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Roy Williams is a perennial Pro Bowl selection, but even he has admitted to doubts about his pass coverage capabilities.

In recent conversations with men who were privy to those discussions, I learned that former secondary coach Clancy Pendergast, now the defensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals, had serious concerns about Williams' ability to learn the defense. When he traveled to the University of Oklahoma campus and put Williams on the dry erase board, he quickly learned that it would be a difficult transition for the college All American. Veteran scout Jim Hess, a former college coach, agreed with Pendergast's assessment.

Jones and his right-hand man, Larry Lacewell, were able to look past that potential flaw because they knew Williams would be playing next to Darren Woodson, one of the best safeties in the league.

The Cowboys thought Williams could be much like John Lynch was in the vaunted Tampa 2 defense, but even more dynamic. And for the first two years of his NFL career, they were rewarded. Playing next to Woodson in 2002 and 2003, Williams was a bone-crunching playmaker. Running backs and receivers flinched when they sensed his arrival -- and he even had the gall to knock Emmitt Smith out of a game during Smith's awkward homecoming as a member of the Arizona Cardinals in 2003.

Williams began his string of five Pro Bowl appearances in 2003, although you can make a strong argument that the past couple have been on name-recognition alone. The 2004 season started off with a bust when quarterback Quincy Carter was released only a few days into training camp. The story line that got buried was that Woodson's injured back was preventing him from practicing. The Cowboys placed him on the physically unable to perform list and hoped for the best.

But it was apparent from the start that the odds were against Woodson, and he was eventually forced into retirement. Suddenly Williams was thrust into a leadership role in a secondary that included cornerback Terence Newman, a first-round pick in 2003, and safety Keith Davis, who had starred in NFL Europe the previous spring.

"I take a lot of blame for what Roy has had to endure," said Woodson, now an ESPN analyst.

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He could change the whole outlook of a game because of his ability to separate players from the ball. But we probably kept it too simple for him.
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--Darren Woodson, ESPN analyst and former Cowboys defensive back, on tutoring the young Roy Williams

"[Former defensive coordinator Mike] Zimmer and myself just wanted him to be a football player when he first came into the league. He didn't have to think about where he needed to be because we made the scheme pretty simple. He could just come downhill and wreak havoc. I'd never seen a player with that type of ferocity. But I didn't involve him in what the corners were doing and some of the linebackers' gaps. He could change the whole outlook of a game because of his ability to separate players from the ball. But we probably kept it too simple for him."

In Woodson's defense, he thought he had at least two more seasons left in the league before his injury forced him from the game.

"I would have approached it differently if I'd known," Woodson said. "He looked at me like a big brother, and we were always honest with each other.

He used to ask me why I was in such a bad mood during practice, and I'd say, 'This is the way I am in practice.' We could say anything."

Though he has the capacity to be gracious and outgoing, Williams -- who had an excused absence from recent Cowboys' voluntary workouts -- often has been a brooding presence in the locker room after a win or loss. A few years ago, a Dallas-area TV station paid him a large amount of money to appear every Sunday night during the season. In a rare moment, Williams once questioned his teammates' effort following a loss and suggested some of them had surrendered. But when reporters swirled at his locker the next day, Williams immediately backed off those comments.

In the interest of full disclosure, I haven't had a particularly strong rapport with Williams, and perhaps unfairly, have provoked some of his bitter responses. He comes across as amazingly thin-skinned. It's almost become cliché to bash his performance in Dallas. But the side of the player that not enough people hear about is his charitable work. I've had members of the organization tell me that he donates vast amounts of money to underprivileged children around Christmastime, but for the most part he does it in a private manner.

But for all the good he does, he's fallen out of favor with the local media, not because of his play, but because of his pettiness.

When a Dallas Morning News reporter approached his locker after a road win against the New York Giants last season, Williams angrily told him that he wouldn't be allowed to ride the team plane home because he'd picked against the Cowboys in the newspaper. Since the paper's policy always has been to fly separately from the team, it was a moot point. But it didn't prevent Williams from causing a scene in the locker room.

When another Dallas reporter wrote that Williams wasn't meeting expectations three years ago, the player responded by authoring a rambling note that contained several expletives. He had it posted during an open locker room session. Williams never officially admitted to writing the note, but teammates pointed to him.

All of this serves as a backdrop for the latest chapter in Williams' strange path toward NFL infamy. About a month ago, he went on Michael Irvin's local radio show and admitted that he often hoped quarterbacks wouldn't throw the ball his way in certain coverages. Head coach Wade Phillips quickly tried to do damage control, saying he wasn't troubled by Williams' comment and had a different interpretation of what the player said. But behind closed doors, there is growing concern about Williams' future at Valley Ranch.

Despite being the eternal optimist, Jones, I've been told, is open to the idea of a future without Roy Williams.


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Cowboys owner Jerry Jones (left), seen here with Williams in a 2005 photo, recently has been publicly encouraging regarding the safety's future in Dallas.

If that's true, it is a pretty remarkable development. When Jones hired Phillips to take over, he thought Phillips' 3-4 defense would be a much better fit for Williams. The new coaching staff talked about putting Williams in a position to do what he does best: making plays downhill. In 2006, he had been beaten repeatedly on deep balls. In the defense run by Phillips and defensive coordinator Brian Stewart, Williams didn't get beat deep, but still ended up allowing five touchdowns.

Not long after Williams confessed to Irvin, labeled by one local radio personality as the "Father Flanagan" for troubled athletes, Cowboys defensive end Greg Ellis came to Williams' defense in a national radio interview.

Ellis said he was concerned because Williams was choosing to work out by himself at 6 a.m. and wasn't interacting with his teammates. He also shared that the safety had been frustrated with having to learn a knew 3-4 scheme, which went directly against some of the comments Williams made when Phillips was hired.

At some point, Stewart finally had enough. He ordered a meeting at Valley Ranch with Williams earlier this month and said it was very productive.

Williams later agreed with that assessment. He believed the media and the coaching staff were against him, but he's apparently more comfortable for the time being. And Stewart says Williams probably received too much criticism last season.

"In breaking down the film, he's done a lot more good than bad," Stewart said. "He's very capable of doing everything we ask him to do. I believe he had 100 tackles, and that's a busy guy. If we can get him to stop horse-collaring guys, I think he's very, very capable of playing at a high level in our system."

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We've got to drill him on his approach to the ball carrier. A lot of it is 'want to.' If I get suspended or fined $100,000, I'm going to want some alternatives to that style of tackle.
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-- Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator Brian Stewart on trying to break Roy Williams' horse-collar tackling habit

Stewart said Williams has a good feel for defending against the inside run and talked about him "coming downfield heavy-handed," which is another way of saying that Williams remains a punishing defender. The horse collar topic is one that will follow him the rest of his career. After all, he was the man who "inspired" the 15-yard penalty, and it's still not out of his system.

"We've got to drill him on his approach to the ball carrier," Stewart said. "A lot of it is 'want to.' If I get suspended or fined $100,000, I'm going to want some alternatives to that style of tackle."

Most of Williams' teammates gathered this past week for organized team activities -- otherwise known as OTAs. Williams had an excused absence because he'd already planned a family trip before the dates were released. In a surprising move by the local media, Williams has been given a free pass on his absence.

Unfortunately, a couple of his teammates weren't quite as understanding. I talked to two players who were shocked Williams didn't show up -- especially in light of recent events. One player, a starter on defense, said that most players assume that "voluntary" OTAs will occur in mid- to late May and plan their schedules accordingly. They want to be supportive of Williams, but he's not making it easy.

There are even rumblings at Valley Ranch that Williams could be released sometime after June 1, but a high-ranking member of the organization told me that he will be on the roster for the entire 2008 season. After that, all bets are off.

Jones recently made some glowing remarks about Williams' future at a team golf outing. And I do believe that Jones still is rooting for Williams because his release would complete a remarkable fall for someone who was supposed to be one of the best safeties in the game.

Is there a market for Roy Williams? We'll save that for another column.
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Just read that over at ESPN -- that's a solid article.

The OTA thing bugs -- what his teammates are saying (and I'm betting it is T-New and Bradie James) is legit -- dude, you freaking know we have OTAs this time of the year, you've got about 6 free months ALL year, don't be a dumb-a**. I know people will say it is an excused absence but what the hell is Phillips going to say? "I don't excuse him from VOLUNTARY work outs?"
 

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Woody would make a good Secondary Coach. Played both CB and Safety and was a great player. Sounds like he would be a good teacher as well.
 

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Woody would be a great coach, but he never played CB, he did line up man to man on the slot guy and did it quite well, which considering he was a LB in college is even more impressive.
 

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Tobal;2093731 said:
Woody would be a great coach, but he never played CB, he did line up man to man on the slot guy and did it quite well, which considering he was a LB in college is even more impressive.

Woody may not be a good coach from the angle that he could teach guys the game. But he'd be outstanding in teaching guys how to approach the game.

His future is in the booth not as a coach. Unfortunately for us, he's not ugly and inarticulate.
 

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In 2006, he had been beaten repeatedly on deep balls. In the defense run by Phillips and defensive coordinator Brian Stewart, Williams didn't get beat deep, but still ended up allowing five touchdowns

I wish I had access to the number of TDs other SS or FS gave up last year.

I know Sean Taylor gave up like 12 in 2006.

I bet Adam has these numbers.........
 

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abersonc;2093725 said:
Just read that over at ESPN -- that's a solid article.

The OTA thing bugs -- what his teammates are saying (and I'm betting it is T-New and Bradie James) is legit -- dude, you freaking know we have OTAs this time of the year, you've got about 6 free months ALL year, don't be a dumb-a**. I know people will say it is an excused absence but what the hell is Phillips going to say? "I don't excuse him from VOLUNTARY work outs?"

If I had to guess its probably not as simple as him planning things. This might be a hard thing to consider but if he was attending someone else's wedding or event, it might not be up to him to determine the date.
 

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Best article Mosley's ever done. That is not to say I'm happy about its conclusions.
 

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Before we flat out cut Roy, I don't know why we wouldn't try him at the "Mo" ILB spot. Let him play there some and see if he fits.

He's about as big as Donnie Edwards and has similar strengths. All of Roy's shortcomings would be gone at that spot. Plus, his instincts (to run to the ball) would fit right in there.

If his heart is into it, I think he'd be a terrific ILB (in Wade's defense). He'd be all over the place with that speed and the "Mo" ILB position in Wade's scheme is all about run and hit. Not much thinking there, just reacting to the ball, which is what Roy does best.

Plus, he should be able to cover plenty well for that spot.

I know many will disagree... but it's worth a shot before we give up on him completely, IMO. He's too talented at getting to the ball to throw away.

If we do I bet he ends up as a 4-3 OLB like Derrick Brooks... because the safety position has evolved too much for him these days.
 

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PosterChild;2093736 said:
Best article Mosley's ever done. That is not to say I'm happy about its conclusions.

Mosely's article doesn't explain why Roy played so well in 2005 and the first half of 2006. I give him credit, and I'm usually anti-Mosely, for trying, but I'm still waiting for somebody to explain the dropoff from mid-2006.

One thing I did notice about this year in particular is he did seem uncomfortable and hesitent in Phillips' scheme. That would definitely be a result of not being able to grasp the defense.




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It's easy for a 1-2 plays to say the since the OTAs always run around mid May to mid June that Roy should have planned for it. Like someone already posted, it could be a family marriage or even the whole family going off on a get together vacation where money has been expended, ext. Heck, Tony Romo made plans to participate in a golfing tournament last Wednesday so those days aren't as locked in as some would think. Of course Romo backed out of the tournament when he found out when the OTA was; Roy might not have had that option. Do admit I wish he were here but then I also wish Darren Woodson would agree to help coach Roy up for a few weeks--given their previous relationship.
 

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sago1;2093751 said:
It's easy for a 1-2 plays to say the since the OTAs always run around mid May to mid June that Roy should have planned for it. Like someone already posted, it could be a family marriage or even the whole family going off on a get together vacation where money has been expended, ext. Heck, Tony Romo made plans to participate in a golfing tournament last Wednesday so those days aren't as locked in as some would think. Of course Romo backed out of the tournament when he found out when the OTA was; Roy might not have had that option. Do admit I wish he were here but then I also wish Darren Woodson would agree to help coach Roy up for a few weeks--given their previous relationship.

No need to discuss Romo's vacation selections. Mid-season trips are okay for Tony. If Roy would have left during the bye week like Tony, he may have been tracked down and shot.
 

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Yakuza Rich;2093750 said:
Mosely's article doesn't explain why Roy played so well in 2005 and the first half of 2006. I give him credit, and I'm usually anti-Mosely, for trying, but I'm still waiting for somebody to explain the dropoff from mid-2006.

One thing I did notice about this year in particular is he did seem uncomfortable and hesitent in Phillips' scheme. That would definitely be a result of not being able to grasp the defense.




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Agreed. Gil Brandt speculated earlier in the week about big money contracts and their effect on players after realizing them. He said sometimes guys don't play quite as hard as they did before. The implication was clear. Hate to think that is the case but it's not exactly difficult to fathom, human nature being as it is... only highly motivated competitors can resist the urge to dial it down a bit. If you think about it, his game really is predicated on emotional game-changing big hits so heart is all the more critical for him.( We just read Stewart citing, "want to.") Something to it, I afraid. All we can hope for is a turnaround for him this year and it is possible.

As for his decent 2005 performance, I don't know myself.
 

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PosterChild;2093757 said:
As for his decent 2005 performance, I don't know myself.

Decent? He had a great season in 2005.

Of course you wouldn't know it because the media loved to blame him for every big play that year. The best example was in the Seahawks game in week 7. There was a big pass play caught by Jerammy Stevens over the middle in that game. Who got the blame? Roy Williams. Who was covering on the play? Willie Pile. But what was even more shameful was Roy was BLITZING on that play and hit Hasselbeck right as he threw it.

It's the same like Toomer's TD in the playoff game. Anthony Henry was covering and both Henry and Ellis missed tackles, but whom did the camera pan to and who got blamed? Roy Williams.

I love how Mosely says that Roy is "amazingly thin skinned." The media's obsession with blaming Williams for every big play would drive just about anybody nuts.



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could probably name 10 more incidents where the camera pans to Roy for some reason when he's not even involved in the play
 

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Yakuza Rich;2093762 said:
Decent? He had a great season in 2005.

Of course you wouldn't know it because the media loved to blame him for every big play that year. The best example was in the Seahawks game in week 7. There was a big pass play caught by Jerammy Stevens over the middle in that game. Who got the blame? Roy Williams. Who was covering on the play? Willie Pile. But what was even more shameful was Roy was BLITZING on that play and hit Hasselbeck right as he threw it.

It's the same like Toomer's TD in the playoff game. Anthony Henry was covering and both Henry and Ellis missed tackles, but whom did the camera pan to and who got blamed? Roy Williams.

I love how Mosely says that Roy is "amazingly thin skinned." The media's obsession with blaming Williams for every big play would drive just about anybody nuts.



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could probably name 10 more incidents where the camera pans to Roy for some reason when he's not even involved in the play

Saddest part is a lot of fans believe that he is actually at fault in those situations.
 

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In breaking down the film, he's done a lot more good than bad," Stewart said. "He's very capable of doing everything we ask him to do. I believe he had 100 tackles, and that's a busy guy. If we can get him to stop horse-collaring guys, I think he's very, very capable of playing at a high level in our system."

Thank you Stew. Many(including myself) have been saying this for quite some time now but we are labeled Roy apologist.
 

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Yakuza Rich;2093762 said:
Decent? He had a great season in 2005.

Of course you wouldn't know it because the media loved to blame him for every big play that year. The best example was in the Seahawks game in week 7. There was a big pass play caught by Jerammy Stevens over the middle in that game. Who got the blame? Roy Williams. Who was covering on the play? Willie Pile. But what was even more shameful was Roy was BLITZING on that play and hit Hasselbeck right as he threw it.

It's the same like Toomer's TD in the playoff game. Anthony Henry was covering and both Henry and Ellis missed tackles, but whom did the camera pan to and who got blamed? Roy Williams.

I love how Mosely says that Roy is "amazingly thin skinned." The media's obsession with blaming Williams for every big play would drive just about anybody nuts.



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could probably name 10 more incidents where the camera pans to Roy for some reason when he's not even involved in the play
Bingo! Just like there doing now. everyone wants to pile on. Are there any other safeties in the league thats getting this much attention for having an above average season? I also notice that in every article written about Roy noone mentions he was 2nd on the team in total tackles and 1st in solo tackles which has alot to do with us being 6th in the Nfl against the run.
 

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Yakuza Rich;2093762 said:
Decent? He had a great season in 2005.

Of course you wouldn't know it because the media loved to blame him for every big play that year. The best example was in the Seahawks game in week 7. There was a big pass play caught by Jerammy Stevens over the middle in that game. Who got the blame? Roy Williams. Who was covering on the play? Willie Pile. But what was even more shameful was Roy was BLITZING on that play and hit Hasselbeck right as he threw it.

It's the same like Toomer's TD in the playoff game. Anthony Henry was covering and both Henry and Ellis missed tackles, but whom did the camera pan to and who got blamed? Roy Williams.

I love how Mosely says that Roy is "amazingly thin skinned." The media's obsession with blaming Williams for every big play would drive just about anybody nuts.



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could probably name 10 more incidents where the camera pans to Roy for some reason when he's not even involved in the play

No matter what Roy did after the home opener against the Skins in 2005 he wasn't going to get a pass. Santana Moss owned him bro. Not once, but twice. In the end he was seen as the reason we lost that game.

He did bounce back to have a very good season, but that game was a killer.
 

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Yakuza Rich;2093762 said:
Decent? He had a great season in 2005.

Of course you wouldn't know it because the media loved to blame him for every big play that year. The best example was in the Seahawks game in week 7. There was a big pass play caught by Jerammy Stevens over the middle in that game. Who got the blame? Roy Williams. Who was covering on the play? Willie Pile. But what was even more shameful was Roy was BLITZING on that play and hit Hasselbeck right as he threw it.

It's the same like Toomer's TD in the playoff game. Anthony Henry was covering and both Henry and Ellis missed tackles, but whom did the camera pan to and who got blamed? Roy Williams.

I love how Mosely says that Roy is "amazingly thin skinned." The media's obsession with blaming Williams for every big play would drive just about anybody nuts.



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could probably name 10 more incidents where the camera pans to Roy for some reason when he's not even involved in the play

Well, I'm not sure I recall all that quite as vividly as you apparently do. Maybe his 2005 was a bit more than decent. What was it, 2.5 sacks and 3 INTs? 69 solos. Pretty darn good but great? We might have different ideas about what constitutes great.

As for Mosely's characterization of Roy, I'll defer to him. He's actually dealt directly with the guy. Now I haven't myself, yet I've seen a trillion interviews since his rookie season, and he typically comes across as a little defensive. Let's go with that...

That's really all I care to devote to this subject today. Cheers.
 

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dcfanatic;2093773 said:
No matter what Roy did after the home opener against the Skins in 2005 he wasn't going to get a pass. Santana Moss owned him bro. Not once, but twice. In the end he was seen as the reason we lost that game.

He did bounce back to have a very good season, but that game was a killer.

Roy wasn't the only person covering Moss and IMO, Mike Zimmer will always be at fault for the 2nd one, possibly even the 1st. The way Zimmer called the game and then switched it up was an absolute disgrace. It was his job to put his players in the best position to succeed and he sure as hell didn't do it after that 1st TD.
 
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