"Win-or-go-home" from a team point of view

[CoCo]

I make a few comments and some just read what they want into them.

You might want to consider if you have any ownership in being misunderstood. Its not the first time I've heard you make that claim.

 

[KJJ]

Little typing from some who just show up to take indirect shots because they don't want to risk getting pinned in this debate.

 

[superpunk]

You might want to consider if you have any ownership in being misunderstood. Its not the first time I've heard you make that claim.

It's not that my arguments don't make any sense at all it's just that nobody understands them!

 

[KJJ]

You might want to consider if you have any ownership in being misunderstood. Its not the first time I've heard you make that claim.

All it takes is the ability to read and comprehend posts. Mine are very thorough and clear even for the less than astute. Some just have an agenda against those of us who are opinionated and deemed negative. Start this thread immediately after the season finale and you would have seen a completely different tone from many. The wounds have healed for most since the season finale and with camps starting up and a new season upon us this is the time of year when FANS defend anything and everything about Romo. With my reputation for candidness anything I say about him is going to be twisted by those who have an issue with me.

Not one of the FANS who have issues with me can provide a single post backing up their claims of what I've said because the posts don't exist. Spinning and twisting comments to fit agenda's is a common practice on post boards it's the only defense some have. Don't focus on me focus on my comments and what I've actually said.

 

[KJJ]

The entire issue here is that some FANS think everyone from ESPN and other networks are putting the blame for the Cowboys 1-6 win or go home "entirely" on Romo which is simply not true. It's the teams record along with his record as the QB. All QB's have a W/L record and when things aren't going well most of the focus is on the QB. It's like that with every damn team. There's been a lot of focus on Rivers and Ryan's win or go him record. Culter has been under a lot of scrutiny in Chicago due to his 1-1 playoff record. No QB in the league has taken more heat than Mark Sanchez. QB's for every team are scrutinized especially their performances in win or go home games. They're all judged by their W/L record especially in win or go home games.

 

[Section446]

As they should be, that's why they make the big bucks.

The entire issue here is that some FANS think everyone from ESPN and other networks are putting the blame for the Cowboys 1-6 win or go home "entirely" on Romo which is simply not true. It's the teams record along with his record as the QB. All QB's have a W/L record and when things aren't going well most of the focus is on the QB. It's like that with every damn team. There's been a lot of focus on Rivers and Ryan's win or go him record. Culter has been under a lot of scrutiny in Chicago due to his 1-1 playoff record. No QB in the league has taken more heat than Mark Sanchez. QB's for every team are scrutinized especially their performances in win or go home games. They're all judged by their W/L record especially in win or go home games.

 

[percyhoward]

Focus on my comments and what I've actually said.

Since every pass play involves an offense and a defense, how can one be more important than the other?

That question isn't about you personally or your reputation, whatever that may be. It's about your comments, and what you've actually said. If you were to explain how offense is more important than defense, you would actually be continuing the flow of the discussion, rather than interrupting it to talk about yourself.

 

[superpunk]

If you were to explain how offense is more important than defense, you would actually be continuing the flow of the discussion, rather than interrupting it to talk about yourself.

 

[KJJ]

Since every pass play involves an offense and a defense, how can one be more important than the other?

That question isn't about you personally or your reputation, whatever that may be. It's about your comments, and what you've actually said. If you were to explain how offense is more important than defense, you would actually be continuing the flow of the discussion, rather than interrupting it to talk about yourself.

You already got my answer now for the THIRD time should a HC be given a W/L and championship record and be judged off it? Is it fair that Vince Lombardi has his name engraved on the SB trophy when it was his players that won those championships? Is it fair that HC's get elected to the HOF due to the accomplishments of their teams and the help of their assistant coaches? The HC gets a lot of the glory and a lot of the blame is that fair? The Bears 15-1 record in 85 isn't on Buddy Ryans coaching record even though he was responsible for the defense that won that championship in 85. That 15-1 record is on Ditka's coaching record because he was the HC is that fair?

It's a fact that every HC is a product of their players primarily their QB. Would Bill Walsh have had the success he did without Montana? Would Belichick be the coach he is today had Tom Brady not come along? Would Landry have ever won a championship without Staubach? Is it fair that a HC is judged and honored with a HOF fame induction because of their regular and postseason W/L record? Some coaches are labeled geniuses because they had great players and a special QB who could pull out victories in the final seconds of championships games. Who do you think is more responsible for the success of a team the QB or the HC? Who was more responsible for the Colts reaching the SB in 09 Peyton Manning or Jim Caldwell?

 

[superpunk]

I hate to even respond to your red herring that's attempting to deflect from how bad percy has mutilated your terrible argument in this thread - but you can't compare a head coach to a QB. Head coaches are responsible for the entire team, QBs are not. Peyton was never in danger of losing his job because Tony Dungy couldn't get him a defense forever.

Percy is contrasting a QB's performance with that of the D. You are throwing poo at a chessboard and declaring Yahtzee. Maybe stay on topic or bow out before you embarrass yourself any further.

 

[percyhoward]

You already got my answer

Kindly indicate where you explained how the QB's performance is more important than the performance of whoever is trying to stop it.

 

[KJJ]

If my posts are so long you can't find my explanation keep digging. Now for the FOURTH time answer the questions instead of just looking to argue for the sake of arguing.

 

[percyhoward]

If my posts are so long you can't find my explanation keep digging.

Give me a post # at least.

 

[KJJ]

I hate to even respond to your red herring that's attempting to deflect from how bad percy has mutilated your terrible argument in this thread - but you can't compare a head coach to a QB. Head coaches are responsible for the entire team, QBs are not. Peyton was never in danger of losing his job because Tony Dungy couldn't get him a defense forever.

Percy is contrasting a QB's performance with that of the D. You are throwing poo at a chessboard and declaring Yahtzee. Maybe stay on topic or bow out before you embarrass yourself any further.

A HC and a QB are comparable because both get a lot of the blame when their teams lose and a lot of the credit when their teams win because both have jobs that influence the outcome of games more than any others on a team. They're both given a W/L record and are ultimately judged by it regardless of the talent they have around them. Peyton Manning was never in danger of losing his job because he's one of the greatest QB's in the history of the NFL...duh! He's the reason the Colts were winning games. I don't throw poo I receive it from those who lack so much insight into the game they have to fabricate everything I say to fit their agenda.

 

[superpunk]

A HC and a QB are comparable because both get a lot of the blame when their teams lose and a lot of the credit when their teams win because both have jobs that influence the outcome of games more than any others on a team. They're both given a W/L record and are ultimately judged by it regardless of the talent they have around them. Peyton Manning was never in danger of losing his job because he's one of the greatest QB's in the history of the NFL...duh! He's the reason the Colts were winning games. I don't throw poo I receive it from those who lack so much insight into the game they have to fabricate everything I say to fit their agenda.

One is responsible for the performance of the entire team, one is not. Your argument is invalid and it isn't doing anything to distract from how badly you're getting worked on the other point. Honestly it actually weakens your other one. Probably just drop it.

 

[KJJ]

Give me a post # at least.

This is just more diverting to avoid answering my questions and to continue wasting my time. You're the research tool so start researching.

 

[percyhoward]

It would take you about 5 seconds to type that post number, KJJ.

 

[KJJ]

One is responsible for the performance of the entire team, one is not. Your argument is invalid and it isn't doing anything to distract from how badly you're getting worked on the other point. Honestly it actually weakens your other one. Probably just drop it.

A HC never throws a pass, takes a hand off or makes a tackle. They're a product of their players primarily their QB. Jimmy Johnson was 1-15 with the inexperience and talent he was stuck with in 89. A QB does more to win games than anyone on the field or on the sidelines. If Percy was working me you wouldn't be defending him. He puts more into Romo's passer rating stats than he does on his W/L record or win or go home performances. It's all about passer ratings with Percy.

 

[WhizKid]

oh this is funny now. LOL

 

[KJJ]

It would take you about 5 seconds to type that post number, KJJ.

There's several post numbers go find them they were directed to you. You were given answers you weren't satisfied with that's your problem. Now for the FIFTH time answer my questions instead of diverting. You have a FAN trying to answer them for you. LOL