Win two playoff games or else

[Dre11]

Honestly that sounds like a cop out

Where's the cop out, you can't be any clearer...lol

 

[Dre11]

What people say they’d do and what they think Jerry will do are two different things. I feel like I’ve consistently seen people say they think Jerry keeps JG if he makes the playoffs, but that they personally think the bar to say should be higher than that such as a NFC championship game appearance. So I don’t think the bar is changing, there are just several bars that get mentioned.

the bar has been changing, because as soon as he crosses one they set another. People here had him fired before the first Eagles game.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

So Garrett wins 1 playoff game in 8 years and you say he should get a pass..................meanwhile.......
McCarthy over 13 seasons, wins 10 playoff games, and wins the SB as well...........and gets fired.
I guess the Packers have higher standards than you do.

Agreed,
Its insane.

 

[CouchCoach]

Agreed,
Its insane.

Can't compare the GB situation to DAL because there's not another like DAL except CIN. And GB isn't owned by one man.

But the major difference is that the franchise that takes 20% of the cap in GB is at odds with his HC and the Magic Johnson rule applies, stars must be happy. It's not quite fair because there are others that failed to build that team around the franchise. But the HC usually falls on his sword and he won't be only one of two this season to do so.

Garrett has taken his team from a 3-5 hole to 7-5 and if he wins Sunday is pretty much in control of the East, why would Booger even consider firing him?

But let me ask a couple of questions and keep in mind I am not a Garrettkeet. What has Garrett done behind the scenes with the Cowboys to improve the team? What's his involvement with McClay? Who brought Richard in? Who started the Amari trade in motion? How influential has he been with the draft picks? We are so busy blaming the man, we do not stop to see what we should be giving him credit for and I do believe he's been influential in all of those things. Why? Because he has Booger's ear. Probably the most important thing Garrett learned from Parcells was to keep Booger from his knee jerks and tendencies.

Is it possible that is the "process"? The gradual, and there is no other way with Booger, gaining trust so that he will pause before acting. Consider that his HC has the same motivation that he does, to get him a ring. Booger sees Garrett as family and I believe that he feels the same way. That puts him on the same side of the desk with Booger. Booger feels Garrett has his best interests at heart and he respects his thinking.

I am not defending Garrett, all I am saying is that maybe we should consider his effect behind the scenes and at the same time that we could easily be in a worse place with a HC. That phrase I've seen so many times "anyone would be better than Garrett", does anyone really believe that?

 

[jsb357]

Win two playoff games or else

 

[Batman1980]

Can't compare the GB situation to DAL because there's not another like DAL except CIN. And GB isn't owned by one man.

But the major difference is that the franchise that takes 20% of the cap in GB is at odds with his HC and the Magic Johnson rule applies, stars must be happy. It's not quite fair because there are others that failed to build that team around the franchise. But the HC usually falls on his sword and he won't be only one of two this season to do so.

Garrett has taken his team from a 3-5 hole to 7-5 and if he wins Sunday is pretty much in control of the East, why would Booger even consider firing him?

But let me ask a couple of questions and keep in mind I am not a Garrettkeet. What has Garrett done behind the scenes with the Cowboys to improve the team? What's his involvement with McClay? Who brought Richard in? Who started the Amari trade in motion? How influential has he been with the draft picks? We are so busy blaming the man, we do not stop to see what we should be giving him credit for and I do believe he's been influential in all of those things. Why? Because he has Booger's ear. Probably the most important thing Garrett learned from Parcells was to keep Booger from his knee jerks and tendencies.

Is it possible that is the "process"? The gradual, and there is no other way with Booger, gaining trust so that he will pause before acting. Consider that his HC has the same motivation that he does, to get him a ring. Booger sees Garrett as family and I believe that he feels the same way. That puts him on the same side of the desk with Booger. Booger feels Garrett has his best interests at heart and he respects his thinking.

I am not defending Garrett, all I am saying is that maybe we should consider his effect behind the scenes and at the same time that we could easily be in a worse place with a HC. That phrase I've seen so many times "anyone would be better than Garrett", does anyone really believe that?

I don't think *anyone* would be better than Garrett but I have a pipe dream of someone who would be better. Someone capable of hiring and firing their own staff, having an offense that wasn't designed in the 90s and with better game management skills.

 

[Pantone282C]

Can't compare the GB situation to DAL because there's not another like DAL except CIN. And GB isn't owned by one man.

But the major difference is that the franchise that takes 20% of the cap in GB is at odds with his HC and the Magic Johnson rule applies, stars must be happy. It's not quite fair because there are others that failed to build that team around the franchise. But the HC usually falls on his sword and he won't be only one of two this season to do so.

Garrett has taken his team from a 3-5 hole to 7-5 and if he wins Sunday is pretty much in control of the East, why would Booger even consider firing him?

But let me ask a couple of questions and keep in mind I am not a Garrettkeet. What has Garrett done behind the scenes with the Cowboys to improve the team? What's his involvement with McClay? Who brought Richard in? Who started the Amari trade in motion? How influential has he been with the draft picks? We are so busy blaming the man, we do not stop to see what we should be giving him credit for and I do believe he's been influential in all of those things. Why? Because he has Booger's ear. Probably the most important thing Garrett learned from Parcells was to keep Booger from his knee jerks and tendencies.

Is it possible that is the "process"? The gradual, and there is no other way with Booger, gaining trust so that he will pause before acting. Consider that his HC has the same motivation that he does, to get him a ring. Booger sees Garrett as family and I believe that he feels the same way. That puts him on the same side of the desk with Booger. Booger feels Garrett has his best interests at heart and he respects his thinking.

I am not defending Garrett, all I am saying is that maybe we should consider his effect behind the scenes and at the same time that we could easily be in a worse place with a HC. That phrase I've seen so many times "anyone would be better than Garrett", does anyone really believe that?

The voice of reason. It is easy to throw the baby out with the bath water. Not sure where the ship sails from here, but let's hope it keeps sailing and doesn't capsize.

 

[Bobhaze]

Can't compare the GB situation to DAL because there's not another like DAL except CIN. And GB isn't owned by one man.

But the major difference is that the franchise that takes 20% of the cap in GB is at odds with his HC and the Magic Johnson rule applies, stars must be happy. It's not quite fair because there are others that failed to build that team around the franchise. But the HC usually falls on his sword and he won't be only one of two this season to do so.

Garrett has taken his team from a 3-5 hole to 7-5 and if he wins Sunday is pretty much in control of the East, why would Booger even consider firing him?

But let me ask a couple of questions and keep in mind I am not a Garrettkeet. What has Garrett done behind the scenes with the Cowboys to improve the team? What's his involvement with McClay? Who brought Richard in? Who started the Amari trade in motion? How influential has he been with the draft picks? We are so busy blaming the man, we do not stop to see what we should be giving him credit for and I do believe he's been influential in all of those things. Why? Because he has Booger's ear. Probably the most important thing Garrett learned from Parcells was to keep Booger from his knee jerks and tendencies.

Is it possible that is the "process"? The gradual, and there is no other way with Booger, gaining trust so that he will pause before acting. Consider that his HC has the same motivation that he does, to get him a ring. Booger sees Garrett as family and I believe that he feels the same way. That puts him on the same side of the desk with Booger. Booger feels Garrett has his best interests at heart and he respects his thinking.

I am not defending Garrett, all I am saying is that maybe we should consider his effect behind the scenes and at the same time that we could easily be in a worse place with a HC. That phrase I've seen so many times "anyone would be better than Garrett", does anyone really believe that?

Great stuff Coach. Good questions. I certainly hope the answers to these q’s are in large part why Garrett is still here.

 

[408Cowboy]

Where's the cop out, you can't be any clearer...lol

Everybody has a bar when it comes to determining what they call success. You said there isn't one when asked what yours is. That sounds like a cop out.

 

[Diehardblues]

Can't compare the GB situation to DAL because there's not another like DAL except CIN. And GB isn't owned by one man.

But the major difference is that the franchise that takes 20% of the cap in GB is at odds with his HC and the Magic Johnson rule applies, stars must be happy. It's not quite fair because there are others that failed to build that team around the franchise. But the HC usually falls on his sword and he won't be only one of two this season to do so.

Garrett has taken his team from a 3-5 hole to 7-5 and if he wins Sunday is pretty much in control of the East, why would Booger even consider firing him?

But let me ask a couple of questions and keep in mind I am not a Garrettkeet. What has Garrett done behind the scenes with the Cowboys to improve the team? What's his involvement with McClay? Who brought Richard in? Who started the Amari trade in motion? How influential has he been with the draft picks? We are so busy blaming the man, we do not stop to see what we should be giving him credit for and I do believe he's been influential in all of those things. Why? Because he has Booger's ear. Probably the most important thing Garrett learned from Parcells was to keep Booger from his knee jerks and tendencies.

Is it possible that is the "process"? The gradual, and there is no other way with Booger, gaining trust so that he will pause before acting. Consider that his HC has the same motivation that he does, to get him a ring. Booger sees Garrett as family and I believe that he feels the same way. That puts him on the same side of the desk with Booger. Booger feels Garrett has his best interests at heart and he respects his thinking.

I am not defending Garrett, all I am saying is that maybe we should consider his effect behind the scenes and at the same time that we could easily be in a worse place with a HC. That phrase I've seen so many times "anyone would be better than Garrett", does anyone really believe that?

Yep. And why I call him a Walk Around GM.

 

[Diehardblues]

Great stuff Coach. Good questions. I certainly hope the answers to these q’s are in large part why Garrett is still here.

It’s a big part of it.

Watch. If we finally do it with Garrett and He gets more credit, then Jerry will fire him. Lol

But seriously Garrett is the perfect puppet for Jerry. He influences Jerry enough to go against his instincts as Parcells said was necessary , prevents total collapses thru distractions while building a better culture and not threatening Jerry’s ego.

 

[Diehardblues]

The Cowboys have been talent dependent since Jimmy left except for a few years with Bill.

The more talent we have the more success. Garrett along with Will in 2011 is when we begun seeing better decisions made.

Has Garrett had game day gaffs and a learning curve on the field? Of course. We saw Sean Peyton make some pretty poor decisions last Thursday nite. It happens.

Game Day mgmt isn’t Garrett’s greatest asset to Cowboys Football. Would we like a greater HC ? Yes. But are we ready to turn Jerry loose again without a HC who will influence him? And have his ear like Coach said so well.

And can we depend on Jerry to set his ego aside for a greater HC? No

It would be one thing if we had collapsed. And this cumulative 8 year rhetoric is only a narrative.

Garrett’s tenure is a tale of two different eras. With Romo and post Romo. He’s basically had to retool two different teams. And this team might be shaping up to be the better one if our QB can continue rising up.

 

[Diehardblues]

Firing Garrett would be the logical solution if not for Jerry’s ways. But Garrett looks like the best crutch we’ve seen for Jerry.

I’m a fan with basically little hope with Jerry this era . But Garrett provides me the only hope I’ve had from what I’ve seen the last 20 years except for a brief time with Bill.

Because with an owner and GM like Jerry we need a team builder . And IMO we’ve only had 3 under Jerry. Jimmy, Bill and Jason. Jason just isn’t as good of Game Day coach as the other 2.

 

[Dre11]

Everybody has a bar when it comes to determining what they call success. You said there isn't one when asked what yours is. That sounds like a cop out.

I don't have one for Garrett as I said, clear as day.

 

[408Cowboy]

I don't have one for Garrett as I said, clear as day.

Do you have one for the team? Or any of the players? If so what is it?

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Coaches are hired to make and win in the playoffs. Garrett doesn’t do either consistently. Based on Jerry’s comments this year, I agree Garrett needs to do something pretty drastic to save his job.

Here’s hoping he does!

 

[Dre11]

Do you have one for the team? Or any of the players? If so what is it?

No I don't, I like to let the season play out. You try and set bars and expectations and your season is ruined if they aren't met.