With the 4th pick...Trade to Rams

[DeaconMoss]

When you look at the players available right now, and its early in the process I know, but there isn't a guy at a position of need for Dallas that jumps out as deserving the 4 pick. Unless you are in the draft QB camp, which I am not with the 4th pick. I want a QB, but not at 4.

I think we all agree DT, LB, Safety/CB, Backup QB are our top needs.

So the 4th pick is worth 1800 points. I have a trade scenario that jumps out to me. LA Rams

Rams have the 15th and Two 2nd round picks.

If Jerry could swing a deal for 15 and 43, I think we could get 3 impact players at Pick 15, 34, 43.
Value = 1520 points. So they would likely have to throw in a 3rd or a pick next year also.

I would take Robinson or Reed or whatever DT you think is best at 15.
At 34 and 43 - Get CB's Fuller, Alexander, or Apple. Darron Lee, LB or Neal, S.

Then the Defense would get an immediate lift with a DT, and some secondary help.

You can spend the rest of the draft on Offensive toys. QB, RB, WR

 

[KingintheNorth]

Which chart are you using? I have the 15th and 43rd pick only being worth 1520 points with the 4th pick being worth 1800.

We are losing in that trade (although that has never stopped Jerry before).

I do agree that the Los Angeles Rams might be looking for a splash move in the draft. If Goff is gone, I would consider that trade, assuming the Rams make up the difference, which is a late 3rd/early 4th round pick.
If the Rams were to offer 15, 43, and a 2017 2nd, I would probably take it.

 

[Killerinstinct]

When you look at the players available right now, and its early in the process I know, but there isn't a guy at a position of need for Dallas that jumps out as deserving the 4 pick. Unless you are in the draft QB camp, which I am not with the 4th pick. I want a QB, but not at 4.

I think we all agree DT, LB, Safety/CB, Backup QB are our top needs.

So the 4th pick is worth 1800 points. I have a trade scenario that jumps out to me. LA Rams

Rams have the 15th and Two 2nd round picks.

If Jerry could swing a deal for 15 and 43, I think we could get 3 impact players at Pick 15, 34, 43.
Value = 1860 points

I would take Robinson or Reed or whatever DT you think is best at 15.
At 34 and 43 - Get CB's Fuller, Alexander, or Apple. Darron Lee, LB or Neal, S.

Then the Defense would get an immediate lift with a DT, and some secondary help.

You can spend the rest of the draft on Offensive toys. QB, RB, WR

I agree with Chris. You made a mistake calculating the value of the picks. Pick 4 is worth 1800. Picks 15, 43, 76 and 107 are worth 1810. That is pretty close to value and we could fill a lot of holes.

 

[reddyuta]

If we trade down then Elliot is a big target, this team doesn't draft DTs high.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Which chart are you using? I have the 15th and 43rd pick only being worth 1520 points with the 4th pick being worth 1800.

We are losing in that trade (although that has never stopped Jerry before).

I do agree that the Los Angeles Rams might be looking for a splash move in the draft. If Goff is gone, I would consider that trade, assuming the Rams make up the difference, which is a late 3rd/early 4th round pick.
If the Rams were to offer 15, 43, and a 2017 2nd, I would probably take it.

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[Nightman]

We already have 9 picks this year.

We need quality over quantity. I would rather take Goff/Wentz early and try to trade back up later in the first or early second.

 

[rockj7]

When you look at the players available right now, and its early in the process I know, but there isn't a guy at a position of need for Dallas that jumps out as deserving the 4 pick. Unless you are in the draft QB camp, which I am not with the 4th pick. I want a QB, but not at 4.

I think we all agree DT, LB, Safety/CB, Backup QB are our top needs.

So the 4th pick is worth 1800 points. I have a trade scenario that jumps out to me. LA Rams

Rams have the 15th and Two 2nd round picks.

If Jerry could swing a deal for 15 and 43, I think we could get 3 impact players at Pick 15, 34, 43.
Value = 1520 points. So they would likely have to throw in a 3rd or a pick next year also.

I would take Robinson or Reed or whatever DT you think is best at 15.
At 34 and 43 - Get CB's Fuller, Alexander, or Apple. Darron Lee, LB or Neal, S.

Then the Defense would get an immediate lift with a DT, and some secondary help.

You can spend the rest of the draft on Offensive toys. QB, RB, WR

I'm going to say the Rams owe us Jerry was very instrumental in whipping up the votes with the other NFL owners to vote for the Rams move to LA so throw out that chart system

 

[Longboysfan]

We already have 9 picks this year.

We need quality over quantity. I would rather take Goff/Wentz early and try to trade back up later in the first or early second.

Like the Rams second round pick and our third round pick and back into the end of the first round.

 

[Oh_Canada]

I'm staring at the Ravens as a small trade down who know what an impact a top notch safety can do for a defense. They select Jalen Ramsey and Dallas picks up there second.
In this scenario Dallas could still get a premium player and two second rounders in a draft high in depth to ensure a few holes are filled.

 

[YosemiteSam]

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[DeaconMoss]

I'm staring at the Ravens as a small trade down who know what an impact a top notch safety can do for a defense. They select Jalen Ramsey and Dallas picks up there second.
In this scenario Dallas could still get a premium player and two second rounders in a draft high in depth to ensure a few holes are filled.

So if the Ravens would be big on Ramsey, shouldn't Dallas be?

 

[TheFinisher]

The Rams would have to absolutely fall in love with someone for them to move up that far. Being that this draft class is lackluster at the top you're not going to get the premium trade packages we've seen in the past.

 

[Risen Star]

The Rams could offer me three 1st round picks and if my scouting department tells me we have a franchise QB on the board I tell them I'm not interested.

Trade down - The knee jerk reaction for every fan this time of year.

 

[dfense]

I've seen Mocks where Apple goes in the top 10

 

[Vinnie2u]

The Rams could offer me three 1st round picks and if my scouting department tells me we have a franchise QB on the board I tell them I'm not interested.

Trade down - The knee jerk reaction for every fan this time of year.

QB is our biggest need... Want proof? Last season... Anybody who thinks Romo is going to last all year is delusional at best.

 

[BAT]

When you look at the players available right now, and its early in the process I know, but there isn't a guy at a position of need for Dallas that jumps out as deserving the 4 pick. Unless you are in the draft QB camp, which I am not with the 4th pick. I want a QB, but not at 4.

I think we all agree DT, LB, Safety/CB, Backup QB are our top needs.

So the 4th pick is worth 1800 points. I have a trade scenario that jumps out to me. LA Rams

Rams have the 15th and Two 2nd round picks.

If Jerry could swing a deal for 15 and 43, I think we could get 3 impact players at Pick 15, 34, 43.
Value = 1520 points. So they would likely have to throw in a 3rd or a pick next year also.

I would take Robinson or Reed or whatever DT you think is best at 15.
At 34 and 43 - Get CB's Fuller, Alexander, or Apple. Darron Lee, LB or Neal, S.

Then the Defense would get an immediate lift with a DT, and some secondary help.

You can spend the rest of the draft on Offensive toys. QB, RB, WR

I am for this strategy or even a smaller trade down with the Ravens. But would also advocate trading down again, for a 1st in the 20's and stockpile those 2nd and 3rd rounders. Those are the rounds with the best value. There are going to be some very good players that fall for non-football reasons and players that rise because they perform so well in shorts.

 

[DFWJC]

Sure, a trade down could be in the cards IF AND ONLY IF we don't value a player (especially a QB) worthy of the 4th pick.

 

[JD_KaPow]

The Rams could offer me three 1st round picks and if my scouting department tells me we have a franchise QB on the board I tell them I'm not interested.

Yup. If they believe the QB has a good chance of being The Guy, they must take him. If they don't believe in the QBs available, then of course the pick is on the market for the right price.

 

[texbumthelife]

The Rams could offer me three 1st round picks and if my scouting department tells me we have a franchise QB on the board I tell them I'm not interested.

Trade down - The knee jerk reaction for every fan this time of year.

"Just take a QB!" - The knee-jerk reaction for most fans right now.

 

[lwehlers]

QB is our biggest need... Want proof? Last season... Anybody who thinks Romo is going to last all year is delusional at best.

I believe that the cowboys will not draft a QB in the first round.jerry and stephen jones are delusional to believe that romo has two to three years left that they can get away from not drafting a qb until the fourth round or later. I really think that defense will be the the first pick.