With the 4th pick...Trade to Rams

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We don't need bodies, we need impact players and a future starting QB. If a QB is there, and to me there are 3 worth taking that high, then I take one. If not then rather than trade I take a dline guy to rush the passer. To me we have two real needs, Romo's future replacement and a player who can make a real impact. We have plenty of picks, we just need to make them count

Yep ... draft the QB and let him sit and learn. That's the correct approach.
 

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The reality is that Romo can no longer be depended on to play a full season. A top QB pick and a veteran backup both should be priorities to secure the future. It hurts some fans to accept the fact that Romo may be done due to his health. I wish he wasn't, but injuries are doing him in.

You don't know that. It's only a guess on your part.
 

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its not a knee jerk reaction...they have no future QB and Romo isnt 25 any more...if Goff is there at 4 gotta take him....

It is knee-jerk, if Romo hadn't broken his collar bone no one would be screaming QB or bust. There isn't a franchise QB in this draft.
 

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It is knee-jerk, if Romo hadn't broken his collar bone no one would be screaming QB or bust. There isn't a franchise QB in this draft.

Incorrect on my part. I've been clamoring for the next QB for a couple of years now. This isn't about Romo breaking his collarbone. It's about having the 4th overall pick in the draft in a year where our scouting department very well could have one or more franchise grades on a QB. If they do then that has to be the pick. It trumps all other options.
 

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Incorrect on my part. I've been clamoring for the next QB for a couple of years now. This isn't about Romo breaking his collarbone. It's about having the 4th overall pick in the draft in a year where our scouting department very well could have one or more franchise grades on a QB. If they do then that has to be the pick. It trumps all other options.

There are some here who've acknowledged it needed to be addressed and I agree. However, saying QB or bust with the 4th pick, regardless of the caliber of prospects is a completely different story. I guess I am just still not convinced any of these QB's are worth a top five selection.
 

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There are some here who've acknowledged it needed to be addressed and I agree. However, saying QB or bust with the 4th pick, regardless of the caliber of prospects is a completely different story. I guess I am just still not convinced any of these QB's are worth a top five selection.

I haven't seen anyone say take a QB regardless of their rating. I've only seen take a QB if we have a franchise caliber grade on the player. If we do, all other players pale in comparison.
 

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I haven't seen anyone say take a QB regardless of their rating. I've only seen take a QB if we have a franchise caliber grade on the player. If we do, all other players pale in comparison.

You haven't seen the countless posts saying we have to take a quarterback? The posts bashing other posters who don't take quarterbacks in their mocks? As much as you post, that's kind of surprising.
 

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You haven't seen the countless posts saying we have to take a quarterback? The posts bashing other posters who don't take quarterbacks in their mocks? As much as you post, that's kind of surprising.

No, I haven't seen one post from anyone that said take a QB regardless of how they're rated. If you have, show me.
 

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its not a knee jerk reaction...they have no future QB and Romo isnt 25 any more...if Goff is there at 4 gotta take him....

I agree we need to look into getting a QB for the future but I don't want the team drafting one at 4 for the sake of drafting one. If the team grades Goff, Wentz or Lynch as a franchise QB, take him at 4. If some of our scouts doubt their potential, take an impact player on defense.

I have a feeling Dallas tackles the backup position before the draft and I just can't see spending a top 5 pick on a player that may not even be active for two years. If we spend a top 5 pick on a QB, I want him at least to have a headset handy come game day and be ready to step in if Romo goes down.
 

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No, I haven't seen one post from anyone that said take a QB regardless of how they're rated. If you have, show me.

Try this thread: http://cowboyszone.com/threads/jerry-please-dont-let-us-down-draft-a-qb-first.342046/
There is some here: http://cowboyszone.com/threads/myles-jack.341524/
Third time's a charm: http://cowboyszone.com/threads/lauf...early-and-not-worry-if-theyve-reached.341664/

I am not saying it's the opinion of everyone, or even everyone in the draft a QB camp, but there are a plethora of people saying that pick has to be a QB or the draft is a bust.
 

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I agree we need to look into getting a QB for the future but I don't want the team drafting one at 4 for the sake of drafting one. If the team grades Goff, Wentz or Lynch as a franchise QB, take him at 4. If some of our scouts doubt their potential, take an impact player on defense.

I have a feeling Dallas tackles the backup position before the draft and I just can't see spending a top 5 pick on a player that may not even be active for two years. If we spend a top 5 pick on a QB, I want him at least to have a headset handy come game day and be ready to step in if Romo goes down.

Well I generally fart in the direction of the idea a player must play rightnow if we draft him, but do you really believe Carson Wentz couldn't play in spot duty his first year and give you more than the garbage we had this year? Of course he could.

For me it's simple. If the grade is there, you take the QB. You have then used that 4th overall pick to ensure your foreseeable future includes a franchise player at the most critical position on the field. I can't think of a scenario that gives you more value than that out of that pick.
 

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Try this thread: http://cowboyszone.com/threads/jerry-please-dont-let-us-down-draft-a-qb-first.342046/
There is some here: http://cowboyszone.com/threads/myles-jack.341524/
Third time's a charm: http://cowboyszone.com/threads/lauf...early-and-not-worry-if-theyve-reached.341664/

I am not saying it's the opinion of everyone, or even everyone in the draft a QB camp, but there are a plethora of people saying that pick has to be a QB or the draft is a bust.

Link me to someone saying take a QB regardless of how they are rated. So I can laugh at that guy too.
 

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But let's be real here, with 3 top of the 1st round QB prospects in this class the odds of the Cowboys not having a franchise grade on at least one of them are slim. It's highly likely they will and it should be the focus of the front office to get that player even if they have to move up to 1 to do it.
 

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Link me to someone saying take a QB regardless of how they are rated. So I can laugh at that guy too.

Haha I haven't had enough coffee to get that into it. From here on out if I see it, I'll PM you and we can troll that person together.
 

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Haha I haven't had enough coffee to get that into it. From here on out if I see it, I'll PM you and we can troll that person together.

Ok. Have fun searching for that pink unicorn. What you really mean is you don't believe any of the QBs are worth it and want to put that evaluation on everyone else.
 

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Well I generally fart in the direction of the idea a player must play rightnow if we draft him, but do you really believe Carson Wentz couldn't play in spot duty his first year and give you more than the garbage we had this year? Of course he could.

For me it's simple. If the grade is there, you take the QB. You have then used that 4th overall pick to ensure your foreseeable future includes a franchise player at the most critical position on the field. I can't think of a scenario that gives you more value than that out of that pick.

I agree---if we take Wentz, I just want him active on gameday with a headset on and the next man up if Romo goes down. I just can't see the value in spending a 4 on someone who may not even be on the active roster for years.

For anyone who wants him to be 3rd string behind McCoy or someone else...just give McCoy or whoever two weeks of struggling if Romo goes down until you are calling for the rookie either way.
 

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Ok. Have fun searching for that pink unicorn. What you really mean is you don't believe any of the QBs are worth it and want to put that evaluation on everyone else.

Actually, I said what I mean. I also already stated I don't think the QB's are worth it, so there is no need to "put that evaluation on everyone else." You almost weren't a douchebag there for a few minutes, did it hurt?
 
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