Wonder if Romo would be less turnover prone if he is put back in the starting lineup?

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:rolleyes: That wasn't the only pic he threw. You know his pics led to short fields and points/momentum right? I'm not a Romo hater but again, I'm I'M enjoying non high blood pressure football. Was Romo better in 2014? Yes but let's not forget games like the Rams where we were down 21-0 in large part because of Romo. That's just the truth.

Of course those INT's led to switch in momentum and he has a hand in these losses. But you are letting the rest of the team off completely without any responsibility. If D would have just made a decent stop toward end of game then Cowboys would have won.
Yes, Romo has some gunslinger mentality as he has matured he has toned it down quit a bit. We seen to only remember INTs yet when the guy led NFL in 4th Q comeback we don't give him any credit.
Bottom line is that he has won more games for us then he has lost.
 

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Of course those INT's led to switch in momentum and he has a hand in these losses. But you are letting the rest of the team off completely without any responsibility. If D would have just made a decent stop toward end of game then Cowboys would have won.
Yes, Romo has some gunslinger mentality as he has matured he has toned it down quit a bit. We seen to only remember INTs yet when the guy led NFL in 4th Q comeback we don't give him any credit.
Bottom line is that he has won more games for us then he has lost.

How many of those week 17 games did he win for us? Do I have to remind you about the 'win and get in' game against the Commanders in 2012? Boy, was Romo on fire or what
 

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88 to 90. I hated the niners and desperately wanted him to fail but he never did
In 1988, Montana threw eleven interceptions in nine out of 17 games, missing two regular season games. He threw three interceptions in a loss to the Falcons during the regular season and an interception in the 49ers win in their Vikings playoff game.

Montana missed three regular season games and threw eight interceptions in six of those games, while staying perfect in three postseason victories.

In 1990, Montana threw 16 interceptions in eleven out of 15 regular season games, including three straight games where he threw two interceptions each outing. There's also his three interception game during a Rams loss. He also threw an interception in the 49ers playoff victory over Washington (the 49ers lost to the Giants the following week).

You should feel fortunate. Montana missed seven games during that stretch. He was perfect in less than half of his remaining games (22) that he didn't throw at least one interception. 22 out of 50 games. Interesting.
 

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In 1988, Montana threw eleven interceptions in nine out of 17 games, missing two regular season games. He threw three interceptions in a loss to the Falcons during the regular season and an interception in the 49ers win in their Vikings playoff game.

Montana missed three regular season games and threw eight interceptions in six of those games, while staying perfect in three postseason victories.

In 1990, Montana threw 16 interceptions in eleven out of 15 regular season games, including three straight games where he threw two interceptions each outing. There's also his three interception game during a Rams loss. He also threw an interception in the 49ers playoff victory over Washington (the 49ers lost to the Giants the following week).

You should feel fortunate. Montana missed seven games during that stretch. He was perfect in less than half of his remaining games (22) that he didn't throw at least one interception. 22 out of 50 games. Interesting.
Yep

I'm a huge Montana fan, but people have selective memory, plain a simple.

I know it's different era's, but Romo's interception rate is the same as Montana's was in San Francisco during the regular season. And though the sample size is smaller, it's even better in the playoffs.

His career pick rate is better than Aikman's or Staubach's too in both the regular and post season. But again, it was a different era.
 
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Yep

I'm a huge Montana fan, but people have selective memory, plain a simple.

I know it's different era's, but Romo's interception rate is the same as Montana's was in San Francisco during the regular season. And thought he sample size is smaller, it's even better in the playoffs.

His career pick rate is better than Aikman's or Staubach's too in both the regular and post season. But again, it was a different era.
Stating selective memory is being kind.
 

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How many of those week 17 games did he win for us? Do I have to remind you about the 'win and get in' game against the Commanders in 2012? Boy, was Romo on fire or what

How good were those teams? 8-8 seasons without Romo would be more like 4 or 5 win teams I am pretty sure most would agree. Oh, people like to ONLY remember the final game of the season but there were plenty of week 14 or 15 must win just so they can stay in the hunt in week 16 or 17.

Again people have very selective memories against Romo and just forget all wins he's help this team get.
 

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How good were those teams? 8-8 seasons without Romo would be more like 4 or 5 win teams I am pretty sure most would agree. Oh, people like to ONLY remember the final game of the season but there were plenty of week 14 or 15 must win just so they can stay in the hunt in week 16 or 17.

Again people have very selective memories against Romo and just forget all wins he's help this team get.
lol

Yeah, 2012 was an absolute classic case of what you're talking it about. it was either 2012 or 2013 when they had the 32nd ranked defense...dead last.
So 8-8 would imply that just maybe the offense was dragging that putrid defense (worst ever in Cowboy land) kicking and screaming to a miraculous 8-8.
yet somehow, the QB is why they are "only" 8-8.
Hard to make this stuff up. The man has had bad days, but come on.
 

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I thought about this as well. In '14, he had one of his best overall statistical years and although he was brilliant, our offense was so balanced and dominant on the ground.

I feel he could come in with Zeke and do the same thing and possibly open up the offense even more because of his experience.

Only thing is..do you want to fix what's not broken...?

I think the debate for the front office won't be about fixing what isn't broken but whether Romo can take things up a notch to give us a better chance of winning the Super Bowl. If he makes the team better, then you want him in.

However, the counterargument is that it's hard to be better than 7-1 so why risk messing with a good thing. The team may not be perfect, but it's playing well and winning. Would that get derailed if Romo is put in and he's not able to do the things he has in the past? How long do you give him to shake off the rust?

The team is in a great position by having both of these quarterbacks to choose from, but the front office is in a tough position. The only way it can win either way is if whoever it goes with doesn't lose or leads us to a Super Bowl victory. Otherwise, there will always be second-guessing.
 

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Universally, some fans remember how one position performs exclusively and rarely recall how well or poorly (in the case of football) the other offensive, defensive and special teamers played in any game--and sometimes DURING the course of a particular game. Thus fault is often verbally laid at the feet of one player. It's remedial sports observation.
 

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I think Dak is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I think he is the future of the franchise. I totally believe in him.

Having said that, Dak's turnover statistics are a bit misleading. He has thrown several ill advised passes to avoid the sack/pressure that we were fortunate weren't in harms way. If he learns from them (and likely will) then they were great learning experiences.
 

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How good were those teams? 8-8 seasons without Romo would be more like 4 or 5 win teams I am pretty sure most would agree.

This is pure speculation. The great Romo was 1-5 in 2010 when a 55 year old QB took over and won more games with the very same team. I expect to hear another excuse for this though, since thats the only thing Romo homers can do to hide the fact that he is simply not a winner.
 

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This is pure speculation. The great Romo was 1-5 in 2010 when a 55 year old QB took over and won more games with the very same team. I expect to hear another excuse for this though, since thats the only thing Romo homers can do to hide the fact that he is simply not a winner.

Man, you really don't like Romo haha. I would venture to say it borders on pure hatred. I doubt you remember the countless 4th quatrter comebacks Tony has done or the fact that he carried this team on his shoulders for several years. Yeah, I doubt you remember these things or you choose not to. And I can already anticipate your reply, blabbing about how Romo has choked, not won enough "Week 17 games", etc. Put Romo on the Patriots, Packers or the Broncos the last couple years and guarantee he wins a Super Bowl or two.
 

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Well, in 2007, in his 1st full year as a starter:
  • they won the NFC East
  • went 13-3,
  • played in the 2nd round of the playoffs,
  • and lost to the eventual Super Champs --the same team that beat the 18-0 Pats team.
it's not like he, or better put, they, sucked.

The team (including Romo) just barely came up short.

True just making the point that there have been some good teams in Romo's tenure. The cupboard wasn't bare.
 

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How good were those teams? 8-8 seasons without Romo would be more like 4 or 5 win teams I am pretty sure most would agree. Oh, people like to ONLY remember the final game of the season but there were plenty of week 14 or 15 must win just so they can stay in the hunt in week 16 or 17.

Again people have very selective memories against Romo and just forget all wins he's help this team get.


I remember him coming up small in that do or die game against the eagles in 2008 but he made up for it the next season by coming back and knocking the eagles out of the playoffs. That also lead to the eagles trading McNabb that off season
 

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I remember him coming up small in that do or die game against the eagles in 2008 but he made up for it the next season by coming back and knocking the eagles out of the playoffs. That also lead to the eagles trading McNabb that off season
Do you also remember how listless practically all of the rest of the offensive and defensive starters appeared from the beginning of that particular game to its finish?
 

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Why are you using that game as an example when he made for his mistakes and led them to victory ?
Because that's the relevant example. When you evaluate a player, you evaluate all his plays. The Cowboys wouldn't have been in OT in that game if he had played better in regulation. This idea that people seem to have that winning means that every player played awesome on every play is ridiculous.

The Philly game is the first game where Dak saw consistent pressure. Under that pressure, Dak made several really bad decisions (contrary to what the poster I was responding to said). The Cowboys were extremely lucky that he got away with most of them (and that they won the coin toss in overtime). He also made good plays. In short, he looked like a very talented rookie.
 

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lol

Yeah, 2012 was an absolute classic case of what you're talking it about. it was either 2012 or 2013 when they had the 32nd ranked defense...dead last.
So 8-8 would imply that just maybe the offense was dragging that putrid defense (worst ever in Cowboy land) kicking and screaming to a miraculous 8-8.
yet somehow, the QB is why they are "only" 8-8.
Hard to make this stuff up. The man has had bad days, but come on.

That was 2013. Dallas has something like 22 different players get starts on the DL alone.
 
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