Would Dak Had Continued Playing Like Herbert Did?

MountaineerCowboy

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It must suck for you to have to talk facts and not feels.

It's ok, I know you realize you are being a bit pig-headed about this bet.
I just don't want to see you get taken advantage of because of your loyalty to Dak.

I'm looking out for you here.

That's why I agreed to only bet for bragging rights instead of something else. I knew it was an easy win for me and I would feel horrible taking advantage of someone's love of a player like that. Other people might not be so nice about it.
 

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I agree that they should make the playoffs but the entire AFC is loaded. The AFC West has 4 potential playoff teams. The North has the Bengals and Ravens and the East has Bills and Dolphins (who have a loaded roster but a bad QB).

See what I mean..........Herbert gets every excuse in the book. Dont get me wrong, I love the kid.
 

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Dude, he didn't miss the day of work. He was there. There are many arguments in regards to Prescott where you are correct. This is not one of them.
I dunno, man.

It seems like if there's an easy road or a way out, we got some guys that will take it.
 

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No. A pick 6 led the team to a win. You really believe this stuff dont you?

LOL. Herbert is Elite. Why didnt he lead his team to victory?
Because the elite QB on the other side lead his team to victory instead.

Herbert is not elite.

I say this all the time. There are only 3 elite QBs in the NFL right now. Mahomes, Rodgers, and Brady. That's it. Elite gets thrown around too much.

Allen, Burrow, and Herbert are next up, but they're not elite yet.
 

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No. A pick 6 led the team to a win. You really believe this stuff dont you?

LOL. Herbert is Elite. Why didnt he lead his team to victory?
So funny when these guys have both dogs in the fight. They completely ignore the 4 or 5 would be picks when it comes to these two, they make excuses for the pick 6 by Herbert, they play up a "rib injury" in regards to Herbert.

Ignore the flat passes down the field against a prevent....


It is just comical how delusional they are.
 

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You guys are trying your best to make Dak out to be some kind of mythological tough guy lol

The guy just don't have it. He's physically and mentally broken.
I didnt have to try to make him out to be anything. I stated actual events. Did those events not happen?
 

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Because the elite QB on the other side lead his team to victory instead.

Herbert is not elite.

I say this all the time. There are only 3 elite QBs in the NFL right now. Mahomes, Rodgers, and Brady. That's it. Elite gets thrown around too much.

Allen, Burrow, and Herbert are next up, but they're not elite yet.
Out of Allen, Burrow and Herbert- Allen is Elite.

The other two, i am not sold on.
 

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Yeah.

I agree with almost none of this. If you think Dak and Herbert are comparable even at the smallest of scales then we are just wasting our time here going back and forth.

Look here. I'm not disputing that we might need to draft a new QB. I've actually stated in other threads that we probably should be drafting a new QB in the offseason. Not to take over immediately, but to prepare for when Dak does leave and to provide competition. That said, I'm comparing how they perform in differing situations and the circumstances surrounding the team.

For one thing, Herbert has Joe Lombardi. Dak has Kellen Moore. Advantage, Kellen Moore in circumstances. How much do you think Moore would realistically get out of Herbert compared to Lombardi? Herbert has Mike Williams, Keenan Allen (who I think missed the match yesterday with an injury), and DeAndre Carter at WR. Dak has Lamb, Houston (UDFA), and Noah Brown. Advantage, Herbert by a large margin. Now, if we also had had Gallup and Washington, then perhaps it might be advantage Dak, but, for now, it's advantage Herbert. Dak does have a slight advantage at TE with Schultz over Everett. Herbert also has a massive advantage at oline with the likes of Corey Linsley, Zion Johnson, Rashawn Slater, and Brendan James. Dak has Martin, Steele, and a rookie in Tyler. Ergo, Herbert has the oline advantage. Also, running game, advantage would be with Dak if Moore would actually use Zeke and Pollard properly. Zeke was gashing the Bucs and Moore inexplicably stopped using him. Which, again, shows advantage Herbert because his OC isn't a complete dunce. So, Herbert has a few more things, including coaching in general which is a huge advantage, on his side.

Had we had comparable coaching (and don't get me started on Jerry haha) and Dak were still performing this way, then yes, there'd be no question. However, as it stands, the supporting cast that Herbert has compared to Dak is startling and is a clear fact.
 

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Because the elite QB on the other side lead his team to victory instead.

Herbert is not elite.

I say this all the time. There are only 3 elite QBs in the NFL right now. Mahomes, Rodgers, and Brady. That's it. Elite gets thrown around too much.

Allen, Burrow, and Herbert are next up, but they're not elite yet.
So you are going to ignore the would be picks that got taken away for Mahomes? But use them against the QB of the team you "cheer for"

Funny how that works. I assume all of Herbert's stats then would be garbage time stats correct? Since they didnt win.

Am i doing this right?
 

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So you are going to ignore the would be picks that got taken away for Mahomes? But use them against the QB of the team you "cheer for"

Funny how that works. I assume all of Herbert's stats then would be garbage time stats correct? Since they didnt win.

Am i doing this right?

I do like Mahomes, but he did throw a really bad interception that was, fortunately for him, disallowed by a roughing the passer call. Coincidentally, I don't recall Dak getting any roughing calls, and he got hit much harder than Mahomes did. Even my Chiefs fan roommate mentioned that.
 

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So you are going to ignore the would be picks that got taken away for Mahomes? But use them against the QB of the team you "cheer for"

Funny how that works. I assume all of Herbert's stats then would be garbage time stats correct? Since they didnt win.

Am i doing this right?
These Dallas Prescott fans are pure entertainment.

I could never imagine trying to defend a bum player that's literally holding the team I "cheer for" back.

The more you type the more you confirm that you're just a Dak fan, bro. Accept it.
 

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Did he not quit at practice because of a shoe?

So tough lol
I also recall his ankle popping, which was the main issue from that incident at practice. But somehow in your mind... that outweighs him staying in the game with a broken thumb, and trying to continue with a broken ankle?
 
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