Would it help this team if they were treated like the team they actually resemble, the Detroit Lions?

blueblood70

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That happens on every team. We notice it more when it involves our team. I’d cite examples, but it doesn’t matter enough to me to sacrifice my time. I’m lazy!
you mean like Fournette, Ramsey, and far too many to list.. its what FAs is and trades and player movement is at an all time high,

this entire thread is waste of time any fan that believes we resemble the Lions in any way shape or form, are not fans. they are living in the Landry days and still not over his firing.
 

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It's more than just the playoff victories. Det and Dal's best players leave their franchisee and play for legitimate teams elsewhere and win a SB with them.
Swing and a MISS this thread is just a Jerry hate thread and not even close to the truth, sorry its terrible comp..just horrible,
 

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Jerry makes sure this team remains revenue relevant and therefore the Cowboys remain in the sports media.

You can't find any sports show that covers the NFL, where Dallas doesn't have an entire segment devoted to them.

Do you ever see the Detroit Lions covered like that? No. Yet, the Cowboys are playoff relevant like Detroit.

Until the Jones focus on championships and less on the bottom line, count on 30+ years of "good enough."
Did the lions go 12-4 two years in a row and were they 15 minutes away from a championship game appearance this year?

But I do agree its near hopeless with Jerry pulling the strings.
 

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that would make you a clueless troll statement, but hey go follow the lions PLEASE leave here asap.

.. dak had 37 Tds to 10 Int in 2021 and has 166td to only 65 career ints. daks better period.. Dak has better stat line across the board more passing tds, total tds, less iNTs, better compl%, and win % and Goffs early rams day was on a far better team with far better coaching. you put Dak on that team instead of Giff and they would never had to trade for Stafford. Goff a solid payer but daks better.
I hope that made you feel better lil' fella.
Lighten up. Francis!

2021? Who gives a crap about 2021?... lol
 

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The GMs for 30 NFL teams have their jobs on the line- either get us to a championship- or least very close- or you’re fired. Our GM and his DNA fortunate eldest son have lifetime contracts regardless of results. The winning owners of the last 27 SBs and counting, all hired a football expert to be the GM, then empower them and hold them accountable for results.

If Jerry was truly as serious about winning a championship as those owners, things would be done differently around here. Nothing changes because JJ wants to play with his toy HIS WAY way more than he wants to win a championship. Jerry wants to win…but his wins start with profits and his ability to personally control everything, not winning championships.
That’s why I laugh when some people actually believe that Jerry wants to win. If he did then he would employ a GM to do so that way he is held accountable and feels the pressure to get it done. Jerry obviously has zero pressure to win anything.The idiotic comments Jerry has made recently would never come from someone who has to be accountable.
Yea we beat Tom Brady in his last game, SF hasn’t had success like us in a while, Eagles and Rams did it wrong ect. No other GM in the league makes those comments accept one who never has to worry about getting fired.
 
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While I don’t care for the nickname America’s Team, I still say it belongs to us, because:
1)Despite not winning a SB for 27 years, we’re STILL the largest fanbase, most talked about, most valuable, etc., etc., etc.
2)The nickname enrages all those hateful, smacktalking, aholes who try to claim it every year. When someone starts something, the nickname gets ‘em everytime, because they HATE it!
 

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If this team was named the Detroit lions people would realize we are in better shape than we’ve been in a long time coming off back to back 12 win seasons and postseasons. What we do in year 3 now is the question
It won't change. Why with this talent are we taking baby steps? Philly has been to 2 SBs in the last 8 years!!!!!!
 

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Jerry makes sure this team remains revenue relevant and therefore the Cowboys remain in the sports media.

You can't find any sports show that covers the NFL, where Dallas doesn't have an entire segment devoted to them.

Do you ever see the Detroit Lions covered like that? No. Yet, the Cowboys are playoff relevant like Detroit.

Until the Jones focus on championships and less on the bottom line, count on 30+ years of "good enough."
I think some of your premises are correct, but you got the conclusion wrong. I'd say we have just as much chance as anyone else who would get there with our odds.

You can have the best roster, best coaches, best playbook. But if the team plays well against you on a certain day, or has an especially good, or even above average game as far as just doing their job goes, then anything can happen on any day. So it comes down to odds and chances more than people want to admit, always.

Even the GOAT, Thomas Brady himself, wound up getting entirely lucky in the post-season on his way to the Super Bowl with pure random chance and similar luck wouldn't have helped the average team. But the timing of his luck was significant to advancing.

Three times.

I'm not saying Brady sucks. It wouldn't be true. But I am saying that there is an inevitable amount of randomness that happens in games that can change the outcome, and at the current rate, I think our odds are probably decent we make it within the next 30 plus years.

Just by chance, we'd have a 1/16 chance of going to the Super Bowl, yet a 1/32 chance of winning it. Statistically speaking, if all things were equal, we have about a 50 percent chance to win the Super Bowl over the next 16 years. So, I get the point you're trying to make.

But historically, when we've been able to assemble the right team, we were able to go from 1-15 in 1989 to 7-9 in 1990 then to 11-5, only to lose to the 9ers in the NFC Championship in 1991. .

Then, in 1992, we went 13-3, finally finding our way to the Super Bowl and winning it.

We regrouped for the offseason then came back again and won it again in 1993.

Then, as many of us know and remember well, in 1994, we made it to the NFCC and lost to the 9ers.

But wouldn't you know it? Jerral Wayne was back again for the win and yet another Super Bowl trophy in 1995. This time, without Jimmah.
To say Jerry, a multi-billionaire, can't take his money with him, was losing money when he first bought the team.

Jerry thrives on risks.

He just doesn't want to be a fool about it. I actually give him credit for the job he's doing at 80-years-old, because, currently, he is doing a good job, regardless of his past record.

I'd say, albeit slowly, Jerry has learned on the job.

What people want him to do, and we're all different, is chase the latest shiny object that they perceive as being the missing piece or the shiny object that will take us over the proverbial hump to the Lombardi. That's risky, and will always be risky. But you can't chase those every risk someone thinks you should take because those can backfire, for a number of reasons.

It's not that you have to take a big risk, or every right risk, or you won't have a chance.

The real key, the one no one talks about, is avoiding taking the wrong kinds of risks. These can not only set a competitive team back, sending them to competition Purgatory, or even Hell, but some moves can keep you from being competitive for several years straight.

And Jerry has mitigated those types of risks by not allowing his desire to win to translate to impulsive decisions.

It'll always be boom or bust for some of you, most of you even. But some truly would make foolish moves, so you have to consider that.

As much as people bellyache and nag about Jerry, there's only one owner that I know of who has more, and that would be Robert Kraft. And out of all the people who dislike him, it's for any number of reasons, which means you can't please all the people all the time even if you were a fan-controlled football owner.

Sometimes, you take the loss like a man, unsaddle the troops for the offseason, regroup and then come back the next year relocked and reloaded to win.

That's what makes winning . . . winning. 31 out of 32 teams lose by the definition most fans consider "losing."

But sometimes that losing season is a stepping stone to the trophy you're after.

Jerry is in the best position he could be in right now, staying competitive.. Getting to greedy could be costly, thus sacrificing your chances over a little existential angst or the latest shiny object can just as easily be fools gold, as it could be lack of focus costing him a championship.
 
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I don't know if you live outside Cowboys territory, but I do and they are mostly viewed as a joke and serve as the constant butt of jokes. It's brutal. I think Cowboys fans underestimate how much of their 'popularity' (e.g., ratings) is people loving to watch them implode. They are no different than the Yankees that way.
No, we are well aware of this. It's just that, you embrace the hate. They only hate us because regardless of how long ago, our legacy is still great compared to most teams. I do admit, the football culture and passion from fans borders on being delusional and sociopathic, maybe even some borderline traits and gaslighting, which Jerry I think Jerry is wise to avoid altogether. But that's what being a fan is about anyway. For many, at least.

Yeah, I know. Shut up and win. The fact Jerry can at least keep you coming back with hope after all these years of pinche nada, says a lot about the job he's been doing lately, I think.

Not perfect, like missing the Watt pick. But aside from that, he's been pretty solid in recent years, despite his age. If you can't give it up for a guy at that stage in his life, you might be a hater.
 

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It won't change. Why with this talent are we taking baby steps? Philly has been to 2 SBs in the last 8 years!!!!!!
Maybe you overrate the talent. It’s talented. I don’t think it’s talented on phillys level and we are taking baby steps because the team is the Dallas cowboys and it’s legacy in name only. It’s better than a step forward and 2 back like it’s been status quo
 

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That’s why I laugh when some people actually believe that Jerry wants to win. If he did then he would employ a GM to do so that way he is held accountable and feels the pressure to get it done. Jerry obviously has zero pressure to win anything.The idiotic comments Jerry has made recently would never come from someone who has to be accountable.
Yea we beat Tom Brady in his last game, SF hasn’t had success like us in a while, Eagles and Rams did it wrong ect. No other GM in the league makes those comments accept one who never has to worry about getting fired.
I don't know. Why are people so insistent to disqualify a guy who finds solace in the fact we beat Tom Brady, finally, when most people said we couldn't do it?

It may be a small sign of progress. But that's better than the alternative of not progressing, or regressing.
 

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It doesn't just stop with him.

Do you really think guys like Orlando Scandrick, Marcus Spears, Chris Canty, and others would have the jobs that they have in media today had they not played for the Cowboys?
Yep. It was amusing watching Keyshawn transfer himself this year into a diehard Cowboy.
 

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Jerry makes sure this team remains revenue relevant and therefore the Cowboys remain in the sports media.

You can't find any sports show that covers the NFL, where Dallas doesn't have an entire segment devoted to them.

Do you ever see the Detroit Lions covered like that? No. Yet, the Cowboys are playoff relevant like Detroit.

Until the Jones focus on championships and less on the bottom line, count on 30+ years of "good enough."
Dallas has one of the biggest fan bases in the entire NFL, if you talk about Dallas or write articles about Dallas, it will get clicks and get views. That is why Stephen A and Skip Bayless talk about the Cowboys constantly, and if you are critical or make fun of Dallas its even better because that is even more clicks and more views.

Nobody gives a dam about the freaking Detriot Lions, nobody would even click on a headline about them or watch a segment on them unless you live in Detriot.

And this is not limited to just the Cowboys, the Lakers are the 13th seed in the Western Conference but almost evey one of their games is nationally televised on TNT and the other networks. The Spurs are the 14th seed in the West and havent been on national TV in forever.

Teams are not treated equally based on their records, be it in the NFL, NBA, or any other league. Big market teams or teams with huge national followings like the Cowboys and Packers are always going to get more attention and more air time, even when they suck.
 

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I don't know if you live outside Cowboys territory, but I do and they are mostly viewed as a joke and serve as the constant butt of jokes. It's brutal. I think Cowboys fans underestimate how much of their 'popularity' (e.g., ratings) is people loving to watch them implode. They are no different than the Yankees that way.
I agree, I think a lot of the ratings is people watching and hoping we lose.

But ratings are ratings to Jerry, as long as 30 million watch it really doesnt matter if we win or lose to Jerry or the networks.

That is why even when we suck and are 5-11, our games are still some of the most highest rated games of the season.
 

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Jerry makes sure this team remains revenue relevant and therefore the Cowboys remain in the sports media.

You can't find any sports show that covers the NFL, where Dallas doesn't have an entire segment devoted to them.

Do you ever see the Detroit Lions covered like that? No. Yet, the Cowboys are playoff relevant like Detroit.

Until the Jones focus on championships and less on the bottom line, count on 30+ years of "good enough."
Uniforms are similar but the Cowboys are better
 

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Whatever was called America's Team is surely isn't the Cowboys after Jimmy's players left. It's laughable to refer to this team as America's Team.
Check the tv ratings and number of Nathan l tv games per year. Check the away game fans.They are still commonly referred to as AMERICA’S TEAM for a reason.

It’s a fact and you’ll have to deal with it. I guess.
 
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