Would Jerry have let Darrelle Revis go?

[CF74]

Johnson essentially ran football operations when he was here, Jerry hasn't made any similar moves since he's been in control and actually operates in the opposite end of the continuum by extending former stars past their due dates. I think that that is the accurate premise.

Well it can be argued that he hasn't done it since the influence of Jimmy but it's been done once regardless...

 

[Doomsday101]

Johnson essentially ran football operations when he was here, Jerry hasn't made any similar moves since he's been in control and actually operates in the opposite end of the continuum by extending former stars past their due dates. I think that that is the accurate premise.

and Jimmy never signed 1 single player to a contract. Yes he had a lot of say but when the deal had to be done it was still Jerry. Jimmy never dealt with Irvin and his contract or Emmitt and his or Aikman. I have a lot or respect for Jimmy but Jimmy was not a 1 man show in Dallas.

 

[Doomsday101]

No he wouldn't have. There were some on this board, myself included, who wanted to trade Romo to better ourselves in the future. It was obvious that Jerry wasn't going to have that. He is a short sighted GM IMO and not overly concerned with the future.

Because you and some other want Romo traded Jerry is short sighted?

Some would say that move is flat out stupid to get rid of one of the top QB in the NFL.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Because you and some other want Romo traded Jerry is short sighted?

Some would say that move is flat out stupid to get rid of one of the top QB in the NFL.

Some would argue he isn't a top QB. IMO he is shortsighted, not because he didn't trade Romo. He wouldn't trade a player like Romo because he is a win now kind of GM. Now if you think he is an endgame game kind of GM well.... sorry bout ur luck

 

[Doomsday101]

Some would argue he isn't a top QB. IMO he is shortsighted, not because he didn't trade Romo. He wouldn't trade a player like Romo because he is a win now kind of GM. Now if you think he is an endgame game kind of GM well.... sorry bout ur luck

Some may not but then that does not make Jerry short sighted. Many who cover the NFL feel Romo is a very good QB and can win. Many feel the problem is not with Romo but with supporting cast. If you like Romo or not to claim Jerry is short sighted because he will not do what some fan want him then maybe it is the fan who is short sighted. You can see things your way and no other way.

As for Jerry catching heat well he took on the role of GM so that is fair game but for some to blame Jerry for everything under the sun gets to be a bit funny after a while.

 

[Doomsay]

and Jimmy never signed 1 single player to a contract. Yes he had a lot of say but when the deal had to be done it was still Jerry. Jimmy never dealt with Irvin and his contract or Emmitt and his or Aikman. I have a lot or respect for Jimmy but Jimmy was not a 1 man show in Dallas.

He ran football operations, chose the players, Jerry signed the checks. If that latter administrative footnote enables you to suspend your disbelief about who was running the team, then have at it. Jerry didn't come up with the Walker trade and has shown no aptitude or desire to trade any players of marquis value since Jimmy's departure, which I believe, was the point of the thread.

 

[Doomsday101]

He ran football operations, chose the players, Jerry signed the checks. If that latter administrative footnote enables you to suspend your disbelief about who was running the team, then have at it. Jerry didn't come up with the Walker trade and has shown no aptitude or desire to trade any players of marquis value since Jimmy's departure, which I believe, was the point of the thread.

Negotiating contracts is not just signing a check. I like Jimmy but when Jimmy had the sole role as GM/HC he failed. Jimmy was good and the combination of Jimmy and Jerry working together produced 3 SB. I give Jimmy a ton of credit, many of the guys brought in to Dallas were guys he recruited and knew well from the college ranks as time passes and his links to the college game dissipated Jimmy picks were not as good.

As for the Walker trade it was not Jimmy alone Mike Lynn was not contacting Jimmy about making a deal for Walker and it was not Dallas who approached the deal it was Minn who came to Dallas with the offer and Jerry was involved.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Some may not but then that does not make Jerry short sighted. Many who cover the NFL feel Romo is a very good QB and can win. Many feel the problem is not with Romo but with supporting cast. If you like Romo or not to claim Jerry is short sighted because he will not do what some fan want him then maybe it is the fan who is short sighted. You can see things your way and no other way.

As for Jerry catching heat well he took on the role of GM so that is fair game but for some to blame Jerry for everything under the sun gets to be a bit funny after a while.

I'm not sure how I can be more clear. Jerry won't trade certain players to benefit the future because I believe he is shortsighted. I don't believe he is short sighted because he didnt trade Romo. I don't think Romo is the problem, he is a good player.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm not sure how I can be more clear. Jerry won't trade certain players to benefit the future because I believe he is shortsighted. I don't believe he is short sighted because he didnt trade Romo. I don't think Romo is the problem, he is a good player.

Evidently you can't I responded to this remark by you

"There were some on this board, myself included, who wanted to trade Romo to better ourselves in the future. It was obvious that Jerry wasn't going to have that. He is a short sighted GM IMO and not overly concerned with the future."

There is no metion of player like Romo you flat out say you wanted Romo traded and Jerry was short sighted. Not a mind reader I only went by your posted statement.

I don't see many trades in the NFL to begin with and as far as the Revis trade and who got the better end of it, is yet to be determined. Getting a draft picks means nothing if the Jets do not get quality players in a draft that comes with no guarantees. If Revis goes out and helps Tampa Bay out and they win then Tampa will look like the smarts ones in this deal not NY.

Hell NY has not shown the ability to get top players hell Sanchez and Tebow? Yeah I'm sure their fans are really excited about seeing a top player go and NY GM actually getting quality players. So again too early to even know how this trade will pan out for either team

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Some would argue he isn't a top QB. IMO he is shortsighted, not because he didn't trade Romo. He wouldn't trade a player like Romo because he is a win now kind of GM. Now if you think he is an endgame game kind of GM well.... sorry bout ur luck

And I clarified when you responded. If you just want to acknowledged what you want I can't help you.

 

[Doomsday101]

And I clarified when you responded. If you just want to acknowledged what you want I can't help you.

Trade who? As I said there are not that many trades in the NFL to begin with. Most players end up becoming FA there are some trades but to get something you have to give something. So who goes? Lee? Carter? Dez? Ware or Romo? after that you end up with picks for players who you don't know if they will pan out or not.

If you look at the Walker trade it was 1 sided we got 8 players yet out of the 8 only 3 really panned out meaning 5 didn't and we will not see another lopsided trade like that again most likely. So getting picks is the start what you end up getting off those picks is what would matter.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Trade who? As I said there are not that many trades in the NFL to begin with. Most players end up becoming FA there are some trades but to get something you have to give something. So who goes? Lee? Carter? Dez? Ware or Romo? after that you end up with picks for players who you don't know if they will pan out or not.

If you look at the Walker trade it was 1 sided we got 8 players yet out of the 8 only 3 really panned out meaning 5 didn't and we will not see another lopsided trade like that again most likely. So getting picks is the start what you end up getting off those picks is what would matter.

It doesn't have to be a trade. His win now attitude spills over into how we conduct business in the front office. The Spencer franchise tag is a perfect example of this.

 

[Doomsday101]

It doesn't have to be a trade. His win now attitude spills over into how we conduct business in the front office. The Spencer franchise tag is a perfect example of this.

Spencer is coming off a Pro Bowl season one of the few bright spots on the defense. Yes they placed a Franchise tag on him they also have talked of removing the Franchise tag and getting him signed to a longer term contract which would lessen the hit and still keep a guy they feel is a good ball player. I think in this day and age of Free agentcy teams are trying to win now

 

[CF74]

He ran football operations, chose the players, Jerry signed the checks. If that latter administrative footnote enables you to suspend your disbelief about who was running the team, then have at it. Jerry didn't come up with the Walker trade and has shown no aptitude or desire to trade any players of marquis value since Jimmy's departure, which I believe, was the point of the thread.

No the premise is would Jerry let a player go and he already has, with Walker.

 

[visionary]

Would Jerry have pulled the trigger on a similar trade? I don't think he would have and I think that is part of the problem with the team.

if by now a cowboy fan does not realize that Jerry is THE problem with this team, you cant help them

you cant fix stupid

 

[Doomsay]

No the premise is would Jerry let a player go and he already has, with Walker.

Problem is, Jerry didn't do anything but follow Jimmy's lead, so that's a bad example of what Jerry on his own would do / has done.

 

[Nation]

Baffles me that there are fans that take the time to post on a fan message board but not the time to do the basic reading to understand what is going on with Free.

 

[Doomsday101]

Baffles me that there are fans that take the time to post on a fan message board but not the time to do the basic reading to understand what is going on with Free.

Cowboys have talked about that and something will happen with Free after the draft. I know people have their own time table and if the Cowboys do not follow the fans time table then it has to be wrong.

It appears the Cowboys want to allow the draft to take place before they make a move on him be it releasing him, forcing a pay cut and keeping him and some talk of moving him inside.

Cowboys may look at their options after the draft with some FA OL players

 

[Verdict]

Not likely. Then again, he did make the Herschell Walker trade which is arguably the best trade in the history of professional football with honorable mention to the Ricky Williams trade and the RGIII trade.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Hell he won't let Doug Free go

Nor would I. First, need to find out if Free is willing to take a paycut to stay. Second, need to know who will replace him.

And, the answer to both of those questions is unknown til after the draft. So, don't you think it would be wise to wait a little bit. Especially, since there is no benefit to cutting him now.