Would Norv drop T.O.?

[juck]

Updated: Feb. 1, 2007, 10:47 AM ET
Turner leads Cowboys candidates; decision next week


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While Norv Turner remains the leading candidate to be the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported Wednesday that another candidate has emerged: Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera.
And in his first public comments since Parcells retired Jan. 22, owner and general manager Jerry Jones said he wouldn't have a decision on a new coach until next week. Jones has interviewed eight candidates so far.
"We've got a good football team, and I've got to get this right," Jones said. "We've got to make a good decision when we select the next coach. We're going to have the opportunity and a plan in place that will allow us to do that."
Rivera's contract with the Bears will expire after the Super Bowl, and the Cowboys are interesting in talking to him about their head-coaching job. And Turner has told Jones that Rivera is the man he'd like to hire as defensive coordinator if he gets the Cowboys' top job.
"That's something I'd address if it ever came to fruition," Rivera said Thursday when asked about moving to the Cowboys as a coordinator. "Right now, I can't tell you because I don't know anything. It's kind of frustrating because nobody has told me anything."
On Tuesday, the Cowboys interviewed Bears Hall of Fame linebacker and 49ers assistant coach Mike Singletary, and indications are that Singletary was impressive in his interview.
Sources say Turner has made a number of stipulations to the Cowboys, including asking for control over choosing his staff and a voice in personnel decisions, (including the future of wide receiver Terrell Owens.)
Jason Garrett was hired Thursday for an unspecified role on the coaching staff, likely as offensive coordinator, after he interviewed for the head coaching vacancy. Garrett, who was Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman's backup for two Super Bowl titles, is still a candidate for the top job.
Defensive coordinators Wade Phillips of San Diego and Gary Gibbs of New Orleans have also interviewed, as did three of Parcells' assistants.
Jones said he hasn't eliminated any of the candidates from consideration.
"I feel very comfortable with where we are," Jones said. "But if I can, I don't want to leave any stone unturned here."

Parcells went 34-32 and failed to win a playoff game over four seasons. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

I dont like this.

 

[sacase]

That ladies and Gentlemen is why Norv won't get hired. He is tryin to dicate to much. There is no way Jerry will allow TO to go. I think it is between Singletary and Rivera.

 

[Pottsville Maroons]

that's just BSPN trying to add more mystery and intrigue to the situation. Norv's statement after his interview confirmed his willingness to work with Owens.

 

[WV Cowboy]

that's just BSPN trying to add more mystery and intrigue to the situation. Norv's statement after his interview confirmed his willingness to work with Owens.

I thought I heard him say that.

BSPN is slowly ruining sports. They think they and their opinions are the story.(see my sig line)

So many of their people are really hard to stomach.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

IF norv is smart...he might want to consider letting TO go.

He did not exactly do so great with Moss in Oakland.
Nor was it a great thing going with Westbrook in DC.

I am just using those two as his WRs while a HC.

If you are already perceived to be Soft on players...TO is not the type of player you want around.

I don't care if people excuse or blame TO for problems in his past or since being a cowboy.

One thing is true...With TO it is always something.

 

[theogt]

If Norv is such a puss that he can't handle TO, he shouldn't even be considered for the job.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

If Norv is such a puss that he can't handle TO, he shouldn't even be considered for the job.

I have yet to see any coach really handle TO, other than getting rid of him or suspending him for part of a season...and I doubt I will.

 

[DizzG]

if Norv would insist TO leaves I seriously doubt Jones would hire him

and Im not convinced Norv is getting hired anyway

 

[WV Cowboy]

I have yet to see any coach really handle TO, other than getting rid of him or suspending him for part of a season...and I doubt I will.

While I don't feel that Parcells treated Owens right as a person, or the way I would have treated a player, I do think he handled the "T.O. situation" fine, mainly because nothing Owens ever did amounted to a hill of beans to begin with.

The media seemed infatuated with Owens all season long, but he didn't do anything to negatively impact the Dallas Cowboys, or keep them from reaching their goals.

I don't think T.O. needed "handled" last season. Maybe "ignored", with some of the things he said, but he didn't do anything that actually became an issue.

I am sure I saw Norv say he would be fine working with T.O. - his words.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

that's just BSPN trying to add more mystery and intrigue to the situation. Norv's statement after his interview confirmed his willingness to work with Owens.

I agree. I laughed intially when I read that piece but now that I've had some time to reflect on it, I don't think Norv made those demands in the way media presented it. It doesn't make sense that a guy who is after a head coaching position would tell his future boss that he can't work with his favorite player. Norv was willing to go to the Raiders and be Al Davis' whipping boy. I don't see him having the cajones to tell Jerry Jones that he needs a control. I'm sure Norv said something to that effect but I'm sure the media embellished and made it seem like he is making demands.

 

[Dallas]

IF norv is smart...he might want to consider letting TO go.

He did not exactly do so great with Moss in Oakland.
Nor was it a great thing going with Westbrook in DC.

I am just using those two as his WRs while a HC.

If you are already perceived to be Soft on players...TO is not the type of player you want around.

I don't care if people excuse or blame TO for problems in his past or since being a cowboy.

One thing is true...With TO it is always something.

No offense to Norm but there is no way he is bigger than TO is on this team as of right now. You do not pay Owens what you have already to allow a suspect HC to come in and boot him off the team.

It just AINT gonna happen folks. Turner needs to stop playing in that pipe dream right now if he wants a solid chance of becoming the next HC.

I hope he isn't the HC. I hope the HC is Singletary and Ron Rivera coming on board to be the DC and handle the defense completly.

I think JG will just fine as the OC.

 

[Doomsday101]

While I don't feel that Parcells treated Owens right as a person, or the way I would have treated a player, I do think he handled the "T.O. situation" fine, mainly because nothing Owens ever did amounted to a hill of beans to begin with.

The media seemed infatuated with Owens all season long, but he didn't do anything to negatively impact the Dallas Cowboys, or keep them from reaching their goals.

I don't think T.O. needed "handled" last season. Maybe "ignored", with some of the things he said, but he didn't do anything that actually became an issue.

I am sure I saw Norv say he would be fine working with T.O. - his words.

Let me ask you. If the New HC came in and demands that all players need to be working out at Valley Ranch this off-season should TO be there?

 

[Doomsday101]

No offense to Norm but there is no way he is bigger than TO is on this team as of right now. You do not pay Owens what you have already to allow a suspect HC to come in and boot him off the team.

It just AINT gonna happen folks. Turner needs to stop playing in that pipe dream right now if he wants a solid chance of becoming the next HC.

I hope he isn't the HC. I hope the HC is Singletary and Ron Rivera coming on board to be the DC and handle the defense completly.

I think JG will just fine as the OC.

Should Norv or any other coach we hire, should they expect for Owens to do what he is told to do? See Owens is a player not the damn HC and I would hope that is something fans can relize TO is a player he should not be allowed to call the shot on this team and if that is going to be the case then fricken hire TO to be the coach, maybe he will kick himself off the team

 

[Dallas]

Should Norv or any other coach we hire, should they expect for Owens to do what he is told to do? See Owens is a player not the damn HC and I would hope that is something fans can relize TO is a player he should not be allowed to call the shot on this team and if that is going to be the case then fricken hire TO to be the coach, maybe he will kick himself off the team

Nobody is saying let Ownes call the shots. But the fact is he was brough here to get us over the hump. Regardless how you feel about Owens. He did help this club get better last year. Yes he had the drops but he led the league in TD's.

Now - all I am saying is if you are Norv Turner and you really are a suspect coach. Which he is. I think everyone knows that. How in the world are you going to say. "Look here Jerry - I dont know if I can handle Owens". That right there tells me that you are not a real HC. This team needs a coach who wont put up with the BS Owens does. BP had a great way of handling him. I hope whoever comes in can take from BP a bit on that matter. Not even chatting about Owens. Not even making his outbursts an issue to get flames in the media. Dont' allow him to become a specticle by adding fuel to his tantrums. It is like working with a child. Just ignore the ding dong.

Turner is a great OC. I think that is really all that he is. I dont think he is a leader of men.

Singletary - Leader of men

Rivera - Leader of men

Those are the types of guys this team needs. We do not need someone like Turner to cow and run away and not address things.

But by Turner wanting to weigh in on Owens future w/ the club and brings that up in the interview. WoW!! Are you kidding me? Thats nerve man.


Im really turned off Turner after reading this about him. This tells me he is WORRIED about Owens.

Why worry? You don't even have the job yet man. Worry if you get the job but figure out how to deal with him....i.e Parcells. Parcells handled Owens brilliantly.


People need to steal a few pages on how to handle Owens from Parcells.

Even guys on the team followed Parcells forumla to the T. Owens finally understood towards the end of the season how things were gonna go. He started fitting in and our guys started bringing him in closer.


TeamMates baby.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Let me ask you. If the New HC came in and demands that all players need to be working out at Valley Ranch this off-season should TO be there?

I would say that if the HC said so, he should, ... even though we both know that many players don't stay in the town they play in during the off-season.

I guess that will be worked out between the new HC and his players.

 

[Doomsday101]

Nobody is saying let Ownes call the shots. But the fact is he was brough here to get us over the hump. Regardless how you feel about Owens. He did help this club get better last year. Yes he had the drops but he led the league in TD's.

Now - all I am saying is if you are Norv Turner and you really are a suspect coach. Which he is. I think everyone knows that. How in the world are you going to say. "Look here Jerry - I dont know if I can handle Owens". That right there tells me that you are not a real HC. This team needs a coach who wont put up with the BS Owens does. BP had a great way of handling him. I hope whoever comes in can take from BP a bit on that matter. Not even chatting about Owens. Not even making his outbursts an issue to get flames in the media. Dont' allow him to become a specticle by adding fuel to his tantrums. It is like working with a child. Just ignore the ding dong.

Turner is a great OC. I think that is really all that he is. I dont think he is a leader of men.

Singletary - Leader of men

Rivera - Leader of men

Those are the types of guys this team needs. We do not need someone like Turner to cow and run away and not address things.

But by Turner wanting to weigh in on Owens future w/ the club and brings that up in the interview. WoW!! Are you kidding me? Thats nerve man.


Im really turned off Turner after reading this about him. This tells me he is WORRIED about Owens.

Why worry? You don't even have the job yet man. Worry if you get the job but figure out how to deal with him....i.e Parcells. Parcells handled Owens brilliantly.


People need to steal a few pages on how to handle Owens from Parcells.

The team followed Parcells forumlay to the T. Owens finally understood towards the end of the season how things were gonna go. He started fitting in and our guys started bringing him in closer.


TeamMates baby.

And what if Rivera or Singletary can't control him? Face it TO has had more than a couple of run in with coaches and either everyone is wrong or TO has been wrong and it has lead to 2 teams parting company with him. I don't think there is anyone who can control TO expect for TO he is after all a grown man and if a coach is not allowed to have a say in discipline of his players including TO then it does not matter which coach we hire. ESPN is not the only group of people who do not think highly of TO and again that is why so many teams did not even attempt to sign him. We also do not know what the tolerance level would be from any of the coaches we may hire regarding TO his constant act.

 

[Doomsday101]

I would say that if the HC said so, he should, ... even though we both know that many players don't stay in the town they play in during the off-season.

I guess that will be worked out between the new HC and his players.

It should be interesting to see how that relationship will work out.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Should Norv or any other coach we hire, should they expect for Owens to do what he is told to do? See Owens is a player not the damn HC and I would hope that is something fans can relize TO is a player he should not be allowed to call the shot on this team and if that is going to be the case then fricken hire TO to be the coach, maybe he will kick himself off the team

Owens has not done or said anything pertaining to the next HC.

Nothing has even happened yet, .. we don't even know who the next HC is yet, and already you are going off about Owens. :laugh2:

Your hate is deep man. ... Not healthy.

 

[Doomsday101]

Owens has not done or said anything pertaining to the next HC.

Nothing has even happened yet, .. we don't even know who the next HC is yet, and already you are going off about Owens. :laugh2:

Your hate is deep man. ... Not healthy.

I am concerned TO has burned his fair share of bridges and now we could be looking at a 1st time HC dealing with a player that many around the league knows is not a walk in the park to deal with. That is not hate that is fact

 

[Apollo Creed]

Why would he drop a guy that led the league in TDs with one hand for the majority of the season? Andn please spare me the, "this is the NFL - guys play with injuries argument".